Estela 101

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  1. mauiarcher

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    I have always known and believe skills are more important than any piece of kit but I do certainly enjoy buying a new blade(s). Those who buy a cutting tool (usually seems to be a cheap one) or make their own and go out and conquer the world never to buy another until it breaks, are very admirable. I realize that is not me but I can certainly strive more toward that direction and shed a bunch of knives and gear that dont get used on a regular basis. I want to learn and practice skills and increase my knowledge base and focus less on knives/gear. Fortunately I have a bunch and the bar is pretty high so it shouldn't take too much effort to move the needle. Comparatively I am better than many and worse than others.

    For me and my situation, I am am no primitive skills instructor and primarily a back yard bushcrafter. I do have what I consider a decent knowledge base I have absorded over the years but it pales next to some others, especially as I learn more and discover what I dont know. I do get out and usually do several small hunting trips and one big hunting trip every year - spiking out under a tarp/hammock for up to a week-10 days. I love hiking/over nighting when time allows but reality is family life and work limit opportunities and I am happy for it. I am blessed and do have decent resources around my home as well as two kids that are quite interested in what I consider basic skills from as little as a 100+ years ago that have been long forgotten and not passed down.

    Anyway...that is a little background about me and my situation. Now for the purpose of this thrrad. I guess it is just to document some dirt time to have a record, look back on, and share with others who may enjoy, appreciate, or maybe learn something if they are newer. I am not trying to educate, I dont have any rules or guidelines, it is not a challenge thread (which I enjoy and are fun). Others can certainly post, participate and share. I may change direction, post for a long time or not at all.

    My initial thought is to run through what I can or feel like doing not in any particular order the skills in Kevin's new book. My daughter is very goal oriented and she wants to participate with me. I have thus far found it a good read that is both simple and informative. From what I have skimmed thus far, I have done many of the skills previously and some I haven't. Regardless, it should be a fun start and good practice when repetitive. We will see where this goes and for how long. It might be a picture, narration, thought, word, or combination thereof.
     
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  2. mauiarcher

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    Ran though 1,2,3,4 last night. It had been raining most of the afternoon and made things more challenging being damp. Drizzled as well trying to make fire. We were successful and found some palm tree paper (not sure what it is really called) that was dry enough to take a spark. Of course my daughter being the over achiever wanted to do flint and steel vs. The fero rod so we divided on conquered. I did log cabin with fero and she did TP with flint and steel. It was getting late and I wanted to quit at #3 but of course daughter wanted to keep going and get one more in. I had hoped to make some cordage out of coconut husk or hau bark to secure the posts but in order to knock it out just used some bank line. Maybe we will circle back to this one or I am sure cordage will come up later.

    As of right now, my intention is to use one knife as much as I can for this thread. This I am hoping will cause me to adapt and learn as I reach some compromises that I believe come with any knife and grind. I am using a SET solutrean that is about a 6 inch blade with a varied grind. I also had a smaller puukko neck knife that I didnt really use except to help my daughter to show her what she was trying to accomplish with her smaller knife is possible. I may decide later on another knife, length, grind etc. that I believe may make it more challenging or difficult for the task at hand. Maybe I will just use what I have on me 90% like a multi-tool or SAK. We shall see.

    Tonight I also used a hand saw to make billets to batton, trim edges for the top of platform, cut posts to length. Solutrean was very capable battoning, chopping and delimbing the coconut fronds. Daughter did her wood work and collected the large leaves with her SET el chapo neck knife.

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    That's awesome! It is great that your daughter is interested and motivated as well.
    I'd like to make a suggestion though: teach your daughter NOT to use a knife cutting between her legs like in the picture. That area is known as the "Triangle of death" due to the close proximity of some very important veins/arteries in that area. One slip of the knife could turn into something serious very quickly. It is better to cut off towards your side. Good job otherwise!
     
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    That's a very cool way to spend time with your kid. Nice work.

    Ditto on the triangle of death and safer knife technique. YouTube has some safety videos, as expected.
     
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    Great point, thank you. I do appreciate it. I have shown her the proper technique off to the side, but Dad sets a bad example much of the time. We will definitely address next outing. Progress not perfection.
     
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  6. MrFixIt

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    Another Young Roughian in the making I see...
     
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    Couple more skills tonight...still have to look up the numbers later but worked on friction and try stick. My wing-girl left me early so I had to carry on without a photographer.

    My initial two fire attempts were to make 2 pom pom feather balls with as fine as curls as possible and use that as my tinder bundle. (Saw in a video recently....coal's and feathers or something like that) After two "fails", or better stated opportunities to learn, had to resort to the old faithful...coconut husk. I actually had some promising initial results but not quite a burst into flame. I am confident I will be able to do this method in the future with additional effort and a bigger pom pom. I dont think the rain today helped matters as everything was wet (starting to get hit by the effects of Flossie....should miss us though). It is important for me not to post a highlight real of successful efforts. That is one of the things wrong with social media IMO...life ain't all unicorns and rainbows. But that is another subject.

    Next I did some notches in a try stick. Managed 11 before i ran out of stick and time. I continue to use my SET Solutrean which is a larger knife for sure (about 6" blade) with a varied grind (about 2 inches of scandi near the handle and zero convex to the tip. It is still a little surprising with a little practice and persistence that I can still do some fine work. I wouldn't call it a Carver but I should be able to do most things. I dont think anyone will argue that a big knife is more effecient on the big stuff but it can also do a fair amount of the smaller tasks. I have to admit the scandi section is sure nice for the notch work and digging into the wood when needed. We'll see how easy it is to maintain.

    Couple thoughts....pinch grip and thumb assist are definitely your friend. I may continue to use this bigger knife as I like pushing my current limits and comfort level.

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    Skills 5,6,7

    Dakota fire pit, one match fire and cooking with fire.

    I have a feeling that I will be revisiting alot of these skills. There are alot of types of fires and ways to cook over them. I am still not certain what the heck is an "H fire" he talks about. I tried a google search and still couldn't find it. He says something about cutting two troughs and fire in middle?

    I have never done a Dakota fire pit. Not that I didnt know about it or how to do it....it just seemed like alot of work. Boy was I right. I am sure in soft soil or something it would be way easier but where I am, our dirt is HARD and compact. I made a digging stick but that was quickly abandoned and used my cold steel shovel. This is an amazing tool IMO and bring it on beach adventures and car camping. Hiking and hunting, it stays home but would definitely bring it for a lengthy camping/campaign bushcraft trip with a base camp/one locale.

    Anyway, no real issues other than digging the darn holes. The pit was everything they said it was....discreet, conserves wood, easy to cook over, air really pumps and fuels the fire once it gets going.

    Now I struggled with the one match fire. In short it was technically a fail....took more than one match. :( however, I learned and likely attribute it to a few things. The good news was that my prep was excellent. The book said try to use sticks and fuel you find. I did a very good prep if I do say so myself. Now the tricky part was the matches.....first to find some. I dont smoke and usually make fires with flint and steel, a Ferro rod, or even a lighter. I do have some storm waterproof matches in my kit, but I figured that would be cheating. My son finally said he saw a pack in the electrical kit. Odd place for them but sure enough they were there.

    Well the matches were old and the first 3 sparkled but didnt ingnite. The next one i dropped prematurely once I thought the tinder was lit and it went out. Finally the 5th match worked as I held it against the tinder until it burnt down. The other challenge was striking and lighting it in the pit which contributed to the first three not lighting into flame. That is what I get trying to combine skills.

    Finally, the cooking was easy. I just threw a stick threw the bale and propped it over the flame to make some top ramen. It is late and just prof of concept. Next time maybe I will make bacon on a rock or something, I dont know.

    Once the fire was going, i just used some processed wood and enjoyed the flames. Definitely disperses less heat than an open flame but we dont need much heat here on maui. ;





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  9. SpookyPistolero

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    Nice work! I would like to pick up a copy of this.

    The H fire:
     
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    Thank you! There were no pics in the book and wasn't sure if I was visualizing properly. That makes sense to me now.
     
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    Not much action today...haven't done a spoon in a while and figure i would try some new curves and rough it out using a large knife. Got a Gossman Bolo recently and been itching to use it. A hatchet/hawk seems easier-might be the focused mass...or it could be my imagination and it was just the fact I was making a small spoon. Small andal forest tool is a definite carver and a very good companion/necker IMO. Will dig it out later.

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    Ya doing well lad, especially getting yer daughter out with you. joe
     
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    @mauiarcher awesome thread! You’re doing some great work here. Far too many kids are missing out on these rich and important experiences.

    If food skills involves field dressing and butchering game, your daughter will be an ace and have a ball!
     
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    Thanks Andrew! Hopefully can know a couple more skills out tomorrow. ;)
     
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    Good luck, and keep us all posted on the skills training!
     
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    Daughter and I made some natural cordage (coconut husk) and made my first paiute dead fall. Very hard to set up. My fingers hurt and I might lose a nail. I see why Fowler had such a hard time. Cant remember the skill numbers. Will try to insert later. I think this thread will be just skills practice than worrying about numbering. Book gives some great ideas.

    Also abandoned the big knife for the notching on this one. Nothing beats a small scandi IMO for wood work. If I was using a softer wood for the set I would have tried. The Gossman bolo was great for the bigger work/chopping trigger to size.

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    Last skill for the day. Bow drill / friction fire. Took a couple tries but got her going. I learned spinning the ember directly into tinder didnt work. May try again but suspect there is a reason everyone one seems to transfer it in to the best after making one.





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    This is a great thread friend, thanks for posting!
     
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    My pleasure!

    Crawfish gig tonight. Hopefully can try it out this weekend.

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    Did you use bamboo? Nice
     
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    @mauiarcher , what wood do you use for your bow drill and hearth board? The set you sent along with @the_dude 's knife pass around spun up an ember almost as quick as flicking a Bic!
     

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