Discussion in 'Other Tools' started by Traz, Nov 19, 2018.
What would you recommend? Thanks
I like the regular old US GI shovel with the pick on the back. It comes with a case as well.
Cold Steel shovel.
Don't typically carry a shovel unless I am truck camping I have taken a Tri-fold US made E-tool on occasion though.
I second the Cold Steel Shovel
Cold steel shovel. Hands down. I bought mine after I broken a tri-told in the snow trying to get my car unstuck. As soon as I had reception I bought on amazon and it has been in my vehichle since. It comes out whenever I need it and serves flawlessly.
This is certainly a great option. It’s what i have.
I did a shoot out of four, for me the Cold Steel checked all the boxes.
If all you want to do is dig, truthfully any of them will work..............
One of these unobtanium ones.
any recommendation for a shovel head so I can fabricate a handle in the woods?
Now here is a man that uses his equipment.
I got two of these surplus West German shovels a few years ago for cheap. They are a bit on the heavy side but it's also built like a tank. Usually keep one in my truck and it's come In handy digging out of snow banks.
The Russian or the Cold Steel will be the easiest.
I like the Glock for the light weight, the cold steel for the durability.
I will second the Glock shovel as it is my preferred folding shovel for my pack or trunk.
I also primarily use the mil issue tri-fold e-tool, its fold up size is very convenient for portability and I like how you can lock the blade at 90 degrees like a hoe.
But I also have history with one like what BradGad posted, mine's name is Stanley.
Were I in the market for a new one I am intrigued by the CS shovel.
On more of a trowel-sized scale, there's a couple items I've had my eye on but haven't pulled the trigger yet. One is the Vargo Dig Dig tool made out if Ti:
The other is a modern version of a traditional Japanese gardening tool called a hori-hori, it's like a cross between a trowel and a knife:
(there's lots of hori-horis out there but that's the particular one I'm eyeballing)
Recent field pic of my tri-fold:
And a poser shot of Stanley:
I like my Cold Steel. Condor makes a couple shovels I'd like to try out.
Well that one cost me money.... I have the Deuce of Spades trowel for catholes, but was looking for something stronger/tougher yet still ultra-compact/-light. I do some stealth camping and want to see if small Dakota fires might work for me. Also, the saw teeth might come in handy with New England's rooty soil.
Thanks for all the good input! Awesome set of tools @BradGad
I too prefer the Glock for its compactness. It stays in my truck.
Cold Steel for being a shovel. Condor Wilderness Shovel for a melee weapon. The Condor has a smaller head and more shallow.
I'll try to grab one next time I'm raiding a trench at Verdun.
It might have gone differently if Rodney King had one in his truck.
Just me roaming around in the woods, I've never had need of a genuine, full size, regulation shovel.
My buddy LOVES his Cold Steel shovel, though.
SOMEWHERE, I have an East German "Bat" shovel that I need to dig out (get it?) and put a new handle on...if I can find it.
There is a saw blade inside the handle, and with the pick and shovel opened up I've used it as a grappling hook .
One of the reasons I prefer a shovel this size is been able to deal with fighting fire using dirt . also in the event I must take cover it is preferred for trenching .
Another alteration I plan is adding hard facing to the edges and serrations for an improved cutting tool .
I got this Russian small sapper shovel from eBay. Same idea as the original ones, but this one is titanium. Not sure what grade/type, but it's pretty damn sturdy. Been digging with it, moving around hot coals, throwing it at stumps, and no damage so far. I did shape the handle a bit since this photo was taken, slimmed it up around the middle. Also gave it a BLO soak.
Was this from seller squirrelya? His description of "6Al-4v" is Grade 5. Good stuff.
Strange enough, I have one of those too. Get it at Motive Parts?
Nope, another seller, but the shovels are probably from the same factory. I see they have more of those same shovels now and the description says 6Al-4v (BT 6) as well. Now I'm thinking to get a titanium snow shovel too...
I made this one out of one those half moon shaped edger shovels
Bought two of them when I was in MN for college at Fleet Farm. Think I paid $10 a pop for them.
Surplus tri fold E Tool that was broken. Origin unknown, believe China or Taiwan but the steel is good. Approx. 2mm. Took the round sleeve and welded it to the spade itself. Two wooden handles and one from PVC. Wooden handle is regular length oak shovel handle cut down. Also have a regular length cut down a bit that can be used as a walking stick with spade on the end.
PVC has adapter to join the 3/4 and 1" pieces. Removable end cap. The end that inserts into the sleeve has an oak dowel inside the PVC for added strength. 2 Screws keep the handle in the sleeve. Overall length 21" with wooden handle / 22.5 with PVC.
If your doing serious digging in any soil besides sand than you want an entrenching tool
not a shovel .(don’t waste money on a cheap entrenching tool , they will not stay locked , reccomemd old style GI surplus , pretty indestructible , not so easy to find any more )
We had to dig in every night in the mountains in Viet Nam and our entrenching tools
( old style , unbreakable )
Were locked in hoe and pick mode until we had to scoop out the loose dirt .
We dug individual fox holes every night , got up and changed locations .
If your just digging a small hole or trench then bring a machete with the fat tip and a file to resharpen it . Much lighter and more versatile.
Cold steel Bolo
Lotta good BTDT info on shovels here .
Digging up old history, are ya?!! Doc.
Why would Rodney need a shovel? Reginald Denny could have used a CS shovel or a shotgun .But I'm lost on Rodney ."
I recently made some spades that are full titanium and weight 4oz. They are pretty badass. I am working on a full size shovel that will hopefully be sub 1.5lbs.
@Pierre nice job on that! Carry system could use some tweaking though
Shugmery is crazy.
I have a full size shovel that stays in the Jeep, it's a camp and backroad travel tool. Can't say I've had much need for a shovel on walkabout, however, several local WSAs require their presence for overnight travel. This one is made in CO and weighs 0.6oz.
Company page: http://www.thetentlab.com/Deuce/DeuceofSpadespage.html
Got mine from Amazon. The #3 is probably the one I should have bought, however... no pink, and no asterisk...which was mandated by my sense of humor.
I like my Vargo DigDig for bushcraps, which is more root-mat cutting than anything 'round these woods. I made the guard with a piece of edging that came off my car door and the Purell fits perfectly!
For any real digging, I'll cast another vote for the CS shovel.
In the time since I posted about wanting the Dig Dig earlier in this thread I got one, too, and it's great, part of my lightest load-out kit. But I realized just a little too late that I shouldn't have thrown out the bag it came in as packaging, would have been a perfect storage bag to protect the sleeve in my pack from its teeth and leftover dirt. Instead I had to substitute a freezer-grade ziplock. That car door edging you're using there looks like a pretty sweet setup. Also, nice trick with the purell.
I've been using my D-handled trapper's trowel for digging cat holes, moving coals in the campfire and digging up plants and roots. Smallish and not too heavy. Digs well and the D handle is nice.
Something like this.
You can see it on my pack here for size.
Although my beautiful wife did give me a Cold Steel shovel for Christmas, so I'm anxious to try that out as well.
Just replaced my Cold Steel shovel, it is worth the money!
But...what if Mora made a shovel ? I like that thought!
Well I made a bigger titanium shovel. 4" overall. 1.5lbs. It chops pretty good too.
Those are great!
Do you normally have titanium sheet and bar stock just lying around?
If weight isn’t an issue I’d recommend the Cold Steel as others have. Really solid tool that can cut and chop in a pinch. Could make a longer handle in the field if you had to or wanted to.
I’ve tried mil-surp E-tools and other folding shovels and I always break them.
Agreed @Uncle Duke 520 what if Mora made one. That would be awesome as long as the quality is as good as their knives.
Exactly what I was thinking!