Fell in love with a restaurant steak knife

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Would you splurge $300 to get a pair of these steak knives

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  1. Absolutely!

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  2. You cannot be serious!

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  3. I will copy this design and give credit to the Brooklyn Blacksmith smithy

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  1. myz

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    A fair bit of disclaimer, I don't generally frequent fine dining joints, but this time I made an exception and went with the missus to a high end restaurant (albeit with a rustic name) in New York City called Gramercy Tavern. The lunch tasting menu was very good, but the most remarkable thing for me was the steak knife I was presented with during the course with the duke breast with the skin crisped probably by blow torch.

    Now I know that there are a lot of carnivores on these forums, probably the majority of our members. I am sure we all can appreciate what a difference a good cutting tool makes to a supremely enjoyable steak experience. A clean slice of beef just feels right, a piece of steak that looked like it went through a torturous experience of sawing and smashing just does not feel right.

    Long story short, along with the duck came this knife, and I got to say, it caught my eye instantly because it just ain't like any of the other steak knives I have seen in a restaurant or in life in general.

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    I thought, well, this is different. So I pick it up, the balance feels just right, perfect weight distribution. I certainly feel like I could just keep cutting and eating duck breast, veal chops, beefy steaks, pork chops all day.

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    Doesn't this steak knife feel a little bit medieval and Game of Thronesy? I can see Lord Dickon Tarly proudly slicing into some venison after catching it with an arrow from 75 yards, like in that one episode.

    I was fidgeting with the knife and my dining neighbors in suit jackets were probably giving me the look of, "why is this guy concentrating more on the cutlery than the knife." The missus noticed it too, and she told me quietly that other diners were probably a bit freaked out by my obsession. So I attach a couple of pictures of the steak knife and you can probably understand where I am coming from. The unique design certainly gives it that perfect balance and handling. I believe it is stainless steel, so optimized for use with food.

    Long story short, a manager walked by, and naturally I call him over to inquire. He was surprised, but pleasantly so, and said I was the first to ever comment and ask about the knife, and he thanked me. He also said the knife was made by Brooklyn Blacksmith specifically for the restaurant, the smith was a friend of his. There were 150 pieces made (that's a lot, and a lot of work for the smithy). Very sharp, well kept and maintained. The manager said if I liked it, I should contact the smithy. I guess it would have been too much to ask if I could be gifted a pair, but one can dream.

    Couple days later, I emailed the smithy, and he said he would entertain orders, depending on his schedule and availability. Quote for a pair is $150 each. Ladies and gents, what do you think? Would you splurge $150 on a well designed steak knife? Would you take this as extra knife with you on your trips?
     
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    Please don’t tell me that isn’t all that was served on your plate.
     
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    Just buy them if you like them that much. Have you looked around to see if theres something else comparable?

    I never will understand paying for tiny servings like that.
     
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  4. myz

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    Yeah, each plate was a bit small, but there were a number of plates, part of the tasting menu, I guess.

    Sometimes we do things so to please others in our lives, :).
     
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    $150? Ehhhhhh... Handle reminds me of a Grohmann Canadian. Have a couple CS copies of the Grohmann that are 4116 stainless and they slice both antelope venison and trout nicely. Cleaning and eating. At roughly $20 a pop. The originals are still less than the above.

    Damn, now I gotta pick up some more of those for steak knives lol.

    If you like 'em, I say go for it. More than one way to skin a cat as the saying goes though.

    YMMV, my 2 cents :)
     
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    Well then she should understand when you get some $300 knives in the mail. Lol
     
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    Right? Get Grohmanns as steak knives! Far as I know, Grohmann uses 440C.
     
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    It does look like the perfect steak knife. I wouldnt as my itches are scratched elsewhere but it sounds like youd have a nice story to go with your procurement of them. I see the appeal.
     
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    I can't see myself doing it, but if you like it, go for it. joe
     
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    And if it's gonna be that kind of party, might as well get the big brother #4 for bigger kitchen and camp tasks. 1552800620656321688665.jpg

    ETA: the bigger #4 is an actual Grohmann, wanted one for some time and got it off the trade blanket here. Saber grind, not hollow. The CS copy on top of the original is hollow grind, more slicey.
     
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    I wouldn't but it's just because I couldn't afford it. I probably use a steak knife every day which is a lot more than I use some of my other knifes.
    Treat your self. :dblthumb:
     
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    Me neither. The last time I attended a really high-end restaurant was for a family gathering, and they served portions like that. It’s the only time I can remember leaving a restaurant still hungry. Between the lack of a fulfilling meal and the atrocious bill, I felt like I’d been scammed.
     
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    That specific knife? No way. The design does nothing for me, though I don't begrudge you the desire to get a knife that calls to you. Just yesterday I received a knife that I bought specifically for picnics and such. Not an EDC type of tool, but the kind of knife you pull out for breads, cheese, fruits, and assorted charcuterie.

    You'll be the one using these knives, you decide and don't worry about what other people think.
     
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    I'm cheap, a dozen of victorinox serrated serve me fine.
    But if I wanted really sharp I'd eat with a scalpel :D

    And no a normal person should not be hungry after dinner, but normal is not what many are used to.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder if that smith is Theo Nazz. His is the only one I'm aware of in Brooklyn though admittedly I know quite little about the area.
     
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    I wouldn't spend that much $$$, on a single Steak Knife..

    My personal " EDC Dinnerware Set ".:3:
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    My two Steak Knives, both sharpened to a fine cutting edge.
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    Have you ever thought about msking one yourself?

    This is my personal steak knife. It's forged from an old leaf spring from a trailer and the scales are black felt "micarta"....

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    It has an honest patina, takes and keeps a razor's edge and fits my hand perfectly.
     
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    Is that a deer tongue?
     
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    Real men just pick up and eat off a plate like that with your bare hands. Make sure to tuck your napkin into your shirt collar like a bib.

    Kind of hate to think of that sharp edge contacting the dinner plate though.

    Duck is one of my favorite dishes. Last duck I had was at Mustards Grill in Napa Valley. Simply exquisite.
     
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    Did the menu say that the knives are not included in the meal? I think you should go back for another steak.
     
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    Nowadays, people would just steal them. Like it’s a funny joke. Kudos for not.
     
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    Buy the knives and tell the "others" in your life; I got these so we could always remember that special meal at the Tavern. :5:
     
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    “That gourmet meal looked more to me like fish bait on a cracker”...Friends With Tractors..
     
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    That's funny right there. :). The steak knife design does nothing for me...but I ain't you. Go for it. Keep the receipt's, box, and whatever the smith sends you with your knives. Apparently they still have George Washington's personal eating set in a museum somewhere, you might be creating your next family heirloom....
     
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    $150 for a custom knife isn't a bad price - as a food knife it'll probably get more use than most of the cutlery folks on this site purchase.
    I know a couple of makers who have made steak knives for restaurants in the $100+ range.
     
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    Seems like a fair price to me. If you like it, and use it, why not? I've much more expensive knives that mostly just sit.
     
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    Hell, I live in 100% nowhere, and I've heard of the Gramercy Tavern. And Tavern on the Green. And Elaine's. My stepsister's husband went to college @ Columbia, and claims you can eat better in NYC than anywhere. And he's been around the world.

    Jim Downing the gun engraver is from NYC, via 2 decades in New Orleans. He claims you can eat better in NYC than anywhere. Than Bangkok. Than Mexico City. Than Paris. Than LA.

    And I think those Gramercy knives are stone totally cool. I can see it in a pouch sheath doing service as a trout-n-bird on some New York (state) lake. And New York sure has a ton of lakes.
     
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    I picked, you cannot be serious. However i would pay that price for a pair IF it was not just for steak but all of my eating sharp cutlery needs for the rest of my life.
     
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    Don’t feel bad about the Resturant steak knife. I have felt the same way about ice tea spoons.
     
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    It's not a bad design at all, I like it. I bet is as easy to use it as my wife's Grohmann bird & trout (ordered with flat grind). $150 it is a bit too much, but is not THAT much for someone who really wants it.

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    It's funny that when using an "issued" knife from the restaurant, you learn to press cut with that knife with a back and forth motion.

    A nice sharp non-serrated edge you learn to slice and pull the flesh away using the fork with a lifting motion.
     
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    Would I? No. But I've seen smaller knives with epoxied jute handles go for higher prices on the trade blanket. I think the fact that you found it at a NYC restaurant is what's making it seem overpriced.
     
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    Go for it. You will not regret it. As others have said, it will remind you of a wonderful meal with your bride. A meal thta you spent extra money and time than usual for some high quality food and a unique dining experience. I am not a wealthy man, but my wife and I go out a few times a year to a nice, formal dinner and a high end place with extremely high quality food and service. It is a fun treat to ourselves for the hard work we do and a reward for the frugality that we practice as a rule.
    I bought hand made coffee mugs, made by local artists on our 1st anniversary trip many years ago. I paid more for them that if I had just gone to Target and bought some factory made things. Now, 25 years later, those mugs are used still and we have very good memories.
     
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    I really don't see that much of a disconnect between purchasing a knife you enjoy using to dine with and one you enjoy using in the field. I'd call both blessings in their own right, and worthy of the grace you wish to impart them.
     
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    I’d get them. The meal probably cost the price of at least one of them, and it was gone in an hour. You’ll get years of enjoyment from the knives.
     
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    I have never been particularly wowed by the Grohmann knives, but this one does look like a GREAT steak knife!
     
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    I can't afford steak, let alone a designer steak knife. :eek:
     
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    What particular attribute makes it an Duke knife?
     
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    Looks like a great design. Post pics if you buy them.
     
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    Have you considered a set of Laguiole steak knives? I found a discontinued set of 12 knives at a discount back in 2014 for $135. Not as pricey as a some sets, but it was still pricey and it was also a set of 12 knives in a nice wooden box. They've become our "fancy" set for when we're having guests over for a nice dinner. They cut through meat like a dream and hold their edge well. I give them a quick touch up before putting them away after use so they're always sharp when we take them out.

    You just need to make sure it's a legit set as there are a lot of counterfeits out there.
     
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    I often deploy my Benchmade or whartever knife I am carring at the time when eating out, here in Arkansas it does not get a second look.

    As stated here you cab get a similar Grohmann for a lot less and they do feel good in hand.


    I f ya like that get one., life is short.
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    if you are happy with the steel choices available from Brooklyn Blacksmith, than don’t think twice buy the knife and enjoy it.
     
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    I use my own pocket knife for steak while eating out.
     
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    I would not personally. But a handmade item with the overhead costs of being in NYC I can't argue with price point.

    My only question is how would one keep these knives sharp cutting on a ceramic plate without serrations? That is the one thing I like serrations for, it's what they were designed for after all. The points protect the edge in between from contacting the plate.
     

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