Ferro Rod Sunday

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  1. Badey

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    I tried to come up with a catchy title, but I figured this was best.

    The goal of this thread is to encourage regular practice with your ferro rod, using different techniques, tinders, etc.

    Start where ever you are, and build up your skills. This isn't a competition with anyone (except yourself).

    I'll get us started with one-handed, strong hand ignition of white pine shavings. Clearly I need to work more on my one-handed ferro rod use.

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  2. NWPrimate

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    Great idea @Badey ! I love threads like this that encourage practice and experimentation. I hope you don't mind if we treat it like the other ongoing threads and post here regardless of the day of the week.
     
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    Thanks! Yes,I would love ongoing posts regardless of the day!
     
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    It seems strange now that I think about it, but I don't think I've ever tried using a ferro rod to light twigs directly before. It took quite a few strikes, but I got them going eventually.

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    Here's a quick one. Cotton balls and fatwood.
     

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    Ferro rod "trap shooting" with flash tinder.

     
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    Pull! :18:
     
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    Lighting up some green wood curls on a Big Leaf Maple stick, using a technique inspired by @MrFixIt's Flat Feathersticks thread.

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    Bracing the ferro rod against a featherstick for support.

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    just saw this thread. you guys might try doing the one handed one using an axe. we had to do that I believe for the hardwoodsman. I will try to hunt mine up but you use the blade of the axe and get it situated correctly over your tinder and slice with the blade if I remember and does quite well. you use your foot to hold the axe in place.
     
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    here is one...pulling back on the axe edge here; go to around 6 min. since it is long and you have to show a lot. It was before I learned how to speed things up too :)
     
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    Personally, I don't use manmade tinders very much any more. However, I am making a PSK for Bushclass, and found some old Tinder Quick in my pack (I put a couple in my PSK).

    I thought I would test one out and see how they worked.

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    It worked alright, but the flame was pretty weak. Fatwood or a PJ cotton ball would be much more effective, IMO.
     
  13. MrFixIt

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    My first submission...

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    @Coryphene demonstrated this set up. A ferro rod glued to a piece of fatwood. I added a carbide tool sharpener as a scraper.

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    The scraper makes a nice pile of shavings quickly.

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    2 strikes and we're off!

    I should have timed the burn. I got about a minute out of this small pile.
     
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    this one shows you can be a klutz and still get it :)
     
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    I guess i'll put it here. There was some talk recently on another forum about fire failure and they had a firesteel. This got me thinking of a little challenge .

    Immersed Birch Bark

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    Tools ready

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    A minimal amount of scraping

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    Fire

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    Nice. How long was it immersed?
     
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    It wasn't immersed a long time, nor does it matter. Your not going to go out of your way to find BB in a puddle, it will be on the tree or on the ground. Wipe off the excess water/ moisture and it will light. The oils are what make it unique
     
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    Now since Badey brought up the "time immersed " question i thought i would eliminate any doubt as to how well a firesteel and birch bark work together. I submerged another piece of BB in water yesterday afternoon and let it sit over night , about 18 hrs.
    Took it out and got the excess water off and dried it off against my bandanna.
    I then scraped the surface
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    I had it lit twice and it went out, not enough fuel to overcome dampness .

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    I shredded a bit of it to make more fuel with the scrapings and then had success .

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    A person in real life will never have to do this because if there is birch in the area you'll be able to find some dry bark somewhere but it just goes to show that with a bit of skill and persistence you can have success with even the worst sample.
    Enjoy
     
  19. MrFixIt

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    Nice @mbiraman !

    I'll attempt to find the time to demonstrate wet fatwood...
     
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    So, I thought I'd try something different...

    UCO storm matches need the phosphorus-impregnated sandpaper to strike with, but if the paper gets wet, it won't work.

    So, I wanted to see if it was possible to light one with a firesteel.

    It took a dozen or so strikes to actually get a spark to land directly on the match head, but it does indeed work.

    So, in the unlikely event that you're in a rain storm, and need a match, but your striker paper is soaked, you're still in the game...

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    Good to know...Thanx for sharing!

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    Playing with my new to me Eldris...
    Thanks @CampCowan !

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    So far I like it!
     
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    I've always heard how potato chips are an awesome tinder. Well, I decided to put it to the test. I would tend to disagree. I had to really work to get this going.

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    Huh, I had always heard that too. Nice test! (Fritos next, just to be thorough?)
     
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    Absolutely!

    It could have been the type of chips I was using though- Ruffles.

    I also tried white corn tortilla chips about a week ago, but couldn't get them to go.
     
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    I remember ihatchetjack used Fritos
     
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    Chips make for a pretty good flame extender but never thought about trying them for tinder.
    Thanks @Badey !
     
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    Saturday but hey....

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    Here are some shavings from a red maple I carved into a bowdrill spindle.
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    These fatwood scrapings were supposed to be the bundle for a hand drill ember that never materialized.

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    Yeah but when are there any chips left, (-;
     
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    True dat.
     
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    Some type of cocoon @NWPrimate ?

    I know that dried wasps nests (obviously vacated!) works well with a ferro rod.
     
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    This was a little wasp's nest and just like you said, it lit right up. I picked it up out of the moss so it may have even been a little damp. It seems like it might have some of the advantages of flash tinders like seed head fluff, without the downside of burning out instantly. I'm going to keep my eye out for more and test them as things get soggier around here.
     
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    I've had great success using fatwood scrapings. Just pour some into the cavities and strike it up.
     
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    :18: Of course you would recommend putting getting some fatwood involved. That's like saying that something will taste good if you smother it in butter. Add enough fatwood (or butter) and the original material is kind of irrelevant.

    I can see it now...

    MrFixIt's patented Asbestos Tinder Cubes; Now with 20% More Fatwood! :3:
     
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    Act now and I'll throw in a bundle of jute twine!

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    Wasps may take objection to using their nests for such, but it seems like it would make very good tinder.
     
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    I only use the ones that have been vacated. I'm allergic, so I have to be extra careful.
     
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    Yeah, but....trying this with them still in it is the real challenge....! :rolleyes:
     
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    Green Maple shavings and scrapings left over from some carving on a hike.
    Lagom Bush Knife and a 1/2' ferro rod....we have fire! Took about 5 strikes to get it hot enough.
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    The Mrs. isn't feeling well so I needed to stay close to the house. So, just a little practice with the blackfeather bushtool and a 1/2" ferro rod.

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    Handled a couple new ones

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    Along with some flint and steel goodies, @DavidJAFO sent Backpackboy, I mean, BackpackJo, a brand new Ray Mears Woodlore ferro rod and striker recently. It's a beauty, and he's making sparks like crazy.

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    Here's a look at his trial run in the living room. Next weekend, we hit the fire pit!

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    May the sparks be with you, my friends!
     
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    hello,
    @bacpacjac It's great to see the young fella honing both the F&S ferro rod skills. :)
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