First friction fire with stone tools

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  1. Seahunter

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    New Zealand flax
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    Abrading and snapping an elderberry spindle. I learned that trick from @kevseadog
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    Sharpening spindle to a point
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    I beat on this elderberry branch with the baton in the background to start a crack and I pulled it apart by hand.
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    I used chert to start the divot and chert and sand stone to abrade a notch
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    Cramp balls for coal extenders
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    Tinder bundle smorgasbord; moss, paper wasp nest, birch bark, cramp balls, and cattail. KIMG0836.JPG
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    It almost didn't go. A piece of elderberry pith turned into an ember and I dropped it into the charred dust.
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    I blew it into a flame.
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    The kindling is from the other 1/2 of the stick that made the hearth. I smashed it int smithereens with the baton
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    This here is some bedrock bushcraft! yabba dabba doo!!
     
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    Very cool and awesome skills! Next level fire making at it's best!
    One day I hope to be cool like that. :35::35::35::35::35::35::35::35::35::35:
     
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    YES sir!

    Persistence is key here eh?
     
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    Guillaume Longval Friction Fire Addict

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    Thanks guys.

    Man, I can't tell you how any times I wanted to pull out my pocket knife.
     
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    :D
     
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    Impressive! What are cramp balls?
     
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    I know right? It sounds like something that you hope your doctor never tells you that you are afflicted with... but in fact it is an awesome fungi that grows often on bay trees and oaks out here in CA and makes great coal extenders. @Seahunter probably has a lot more good info on them too!

    @Seahunter that was an awesome post man! Next time we hang out in the field, remind me and maybe I can help find some rock types that will make future stone tools fire board carving go much quicker. Great stuff man!
     
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    Thanks. It is something I have wanted to try for long time. Cramp balls are a fungus that grows on trees around here. They are great stuff. They will take a spark from flint and steel and they will glow for a very long time.

     
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    Pretty awesome to get everything from nature!
     
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    That would be great! It took foe ever to abrade that notch in the hearth board. I needed narrower "flakes" that didn't have so much side drag.
     
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    Nice work! I haven't really dived into friction fire yet, much less with all natural materials :)
     
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    Very nice, actually amazing
     
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    Nice work, Freddie boy!
     
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    That's real nice work!
     
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    Very impressive, thanks for sharing your success!
     
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    Good job! How strong and durable was the natural cord?
     
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    Great job. I am going to look for cramp balls in my area.

    GOD Bless you and your families

    Kenneth
     
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    Impressive! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Thanks guys.

    New Zeland flax is crazy strong. I can't break 1 strand by hand and it is a lot stronger when it is twisted up. What wears it down is when the spindle stalls out and the bow keeps moving the cordage accross the spindle. If I had used a native material to make my cordage it might not have held up.
     
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    That is good info! Thank you.
    Would you say it is as strong as jute twine, like you buy in the store?
     
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