First time tying flies

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  1. RangerWeaver

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    So after receiving some material and Chadwick 477 substitute from @werewolf won I plan to tie my first set of flies tomorrow. What all would you guys recommend I use to get started? I can't really spend anything right now since finances are tight. But any recommendations or suggestions are greatly appreciated!
    Thanks in advance,
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    I can't begin to guess how much money I've spent on fly tying materials, tools, books, videos and magazines over the years. You can tie very effective flies without spending a lot of money on tools and materials though. You don't need "perfect" flies to catch fish. Sometimes the imperfect fly will out-fish the perfect pattern. Learning how to apply the right amount of thread tension, how to attach the materials you're using correctly and proper proportions on flies is important. These days there are countless videos out there that can help you learn. Its much easier than learning from vague instructions written in books like I did.

    I remember being very proud of the first flies I tied. Years later I looked back and laughed at how horrible they were but they still caught fish. At first you'll feel like you're all thumbs but with practice your flies and techniques will get better. Once you have the basics down, tying on smaller hooks will make tying on bigger hooks much easier. I used to think a size 20 was an incredibly small hook and struggled to tie on them. After tying on size 28 hooks I feel like I have all kinds of room when tying a size 20. Now tying on a size 12 seems almost comically unnatural and large to me.

    This video demonstrates how little is needed to tie flies.

     
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    Looking forward to seeing how you get on.
     
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    Please keep us posted on your progress.
     
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    @pab1 , great video! A day out on the river with Mr. Sebata would be awesome!
     
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    There are 2 kinds of flies - the kind that catch fish and the kind that catch fisherman. I use mostly materials that I find like feathers off the ground, dog hair, etc. The fish you catch on flies you tie seem to fight and taste better, not sure why......
     
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    Great video!
    I haven’t tied any flies for a long time and I never was that great at it. Mostly I tied small (for me) wet and dry flies and deer hair poppers for Bluegill and Smallmouth. I caught a lot of fish on my not so perfect creations.

    If your flies don’t look just like in an Orvis catalog, or photos from some of the guys on here, don’t worry. The more you do it the better looking, and mor durable your flies will become.
    Have fun, repeat
     
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    I wish Youtube had been around back when I was looking for help getting started. After this and a couple of other threads I'm getting the urge to find where I stored my tying tools, getting some new materials, and twisting up a few.
     
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    Well I got one tied so far. I'll be doing some more this evening after pre-cookimg most of my family's early thanksgiving dinner. 20171114_172540.jpg
     
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    Tied some more flies. What do you guys think?
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    Check out the small tenkara flies, easy and nice little flies.
     
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    RW,

    Nice work. That tan one reminds me of an old school nymph called the "Burlap". Material was,,,,,,,,,you guessed it...string off a Burlap sack. Worked decades ago and works now.

    Whatever you used for the body on the tan nymph, you can add one step to it and make a dry fly called a caddis. Just add a wing of elk or deer hair to the body of the tan material.

    Those bugs you photographed will definitely catch fish.

    Welcome to the addiction.

    Be safe.

    Draketake
     
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    Thanks. I'll definitely add the next step to them when I make some more later tonight. Do you think that dog hair would work in place of elk or deer hair?
     
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    Nice looking ties! :dblthumb: Those will catch fish. Much nicer looking than my first ones, and I still caught fish on them. Dog hair will definitely work. Cat hair, too. Dog and cat body hair makes good dubbing fur for tying nymphs. Nice and buggy looking. My lab's tail makes some nice streamer hair. My kids got on me because his tail was looking kind of chopped up looking. :18: You might have one of my favorite materials for tying legs on nymphs just laying around in a spinner bait skirt. It's round rubber. Round rubber legs typically out fish my fancy tied goose biot legs hands down, even though the goose biot legs make the fly look like it is getting ready to walk off the table. Like cjc said previously, some flies are tied to catch fish and some are tied to catch fisherman. For rubber legs, I generally like black. Just keep on tying, and they will keep getting better.
     
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    Well I do have some skinner bait skirts that I never use!
     
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    Here's another one made with feathers from a parrolete and hair from my dog. 20171114_220115.jpg
     
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    Made a cheap DIY fly box to store them so they don't get hooked on each other.
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    RW,

    You are hooked now for sure.

    Nice fly box.

    To have the caddis float on top of the water, you will need some kind of hollow hair. Elk/Deer is the traditional wing. I think maybe the dog hair wont float the fly well. Give it a try if you wish and let us know.

    Have fun.
     
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