floats without a shuttle?

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  1. chansta

    chansta keeper of the flame Supporter

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    Hey all. I live in an area with rivers, and I know there are some good stretches to float solo. I want to explore more areas where I can just throw the boat on and float... and paddle back.

    I called an outfitter near me (James river), and he very quickly stated he wouldn't shuttle me unless I rented. I'm not doing that if I own my own boat.

    Using google maps...or something similar... how can I be assured where I'm paddling won't result in a 20 minute float with me having to just turn around?
     
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    You can't be sure without knowing the flow rate and that depends on elevation change, water level, and rainfall, mostly. Experience too.

    Anything more than about 1-2mph, you're not going to want to paddle back on. Maybe find a buddy who needs gas money and is willing to play taxi.
     
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    I was afraid of this! There is a nice section I can easily paddle that I need to explore. Flood levels last time I went. This time... not so much!!!
     
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    Paddle upstream, float back.
     
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    Do you have a bicycle? Haul it to your take-out point, lock it to a tree, and later ride it back to your vehicle. Some people will also hitchhike, but that does have its risks nowadays.
     
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    I do, but I wouldn't feel safe riding on the roads where I can put in and take out. Blind curves, mega hills (mountains), etc. Lots of semis with no room on the shoulder. Good idea, though.
     
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    Well, that's simple enough!
     
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    Get a cheap old moped. Not much heavier than a bike but motorized.
     
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    Depends a lot on the river, and especially what is or isn't hanging over the banks. On most flat rivers, the flow can be low enough that staying in the eddy current along the banks makes it practical to paddle upstream first. On river bends, stay on the inside of the bend where safe to do so. On meandering rivers ferrying from inside bend to inside bend can get you up a long way.

    This is all normal and often easier for canoe polers, but I also do it on the nearby large flat river with just a paddle in canoes or kayaks. Even at spring flood, it isn't really hard, as long as inside bends aren't blocked by sweepers or other obstacles.
     
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    I've done this a couple times, I put my motorcycle in back and the canoe on the rack. Drop off motorcycle at take out or drop off canoe at put in, then take truck to take out, unload motorcycle and ride back to put in.
     
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    Could you request an Uber with a roof rack? Or taxi?
     
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    Check around with other outfitters or see if there is a local paddling group. To know your travel time you just need experience. For example I have favorite local trip of about six miles that takes roughly 2.5 hours but frequently takes four as we stop to swim etc. There is some current here and some floating along without paddling happens also. I use a book that lists the streams in my state to plan trips and it has outfitter contact in it, perhaps your state has something similar.
     
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    THIS, it is why we ask. The obvious answer is upstream from us. :4:
     
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    Most likely not in the areas I'd be paddling. Zero cell service and way out in the sticks. River Styx ..ha!
     
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    Maybe add a little motor to power your way back upstream?
     
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    I wouldn't feel safe on a moped in the roads near the river. Tractor trailers with no shoulder whatsoever, blind curves, speeders. Cool suggestion, though
     
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    You can study a Topo map and looking at the contours and by determining the drop per mile get a pretty good idea what to expect. Just make sure all the drop in a mile does not come in 10 feet or so :)
     
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