Found a grenade in the old fishing hole!

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  1. Primordial

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    The other day a local guy was dragging a magnet around a local creek and hauled in what looks to be a WWII era pineapple hand grenade!

    I fish this creek and a grenade would be a very effective means of getting your limit of brook trout there. :D It would also help keep your secret hole, secret if used properly. :16:

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    Above photo taken from the guy's FaceBook page.

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  2. fixits

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    Wow...that could have been a much longer and sadder press release!
     
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    Guessing some fisherman had a few too many and forgot to pull the pin.
     
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    Wonder what would happen if you pulled the pin? :confused: :eek: :D
     
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    That's another level...
     
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    You want one added to the lure pass around tackle box??
     
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    More likely, the fisherman had his buddy with him, who happened to be a game warden. When the warden saw what he was doing, he objected. The fisherman promptly threw the grenade in the warden's lap and said, "You gonna complain, or are you going to fish?" The warden must not have pulled the pin. :18::18::18:
     
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    Editing error, see below lol.
     
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    I have empty CO2 cartridges, hot glue and cannon fuse.

    Not necessary :4:
     
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    “Burt, what kind of fuse is that?”
    ‘Cannon fuse...’
    “What the heck do you use that for?!”
    ‘MY CANNON!’
     
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    My guess is at most you’d get the same as what would happen after you ate Taco Bell...
     
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    Best get a fan out for what's about to hit it, lol!
     
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    Man, some guys have all the luck...
     
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    When we need a "sinker" for bottom fishing, we don't mess around! :)
     
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    Would anyone else have been tempted to pull the pin and throw it back?
     
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    That's an awfully heavy sinker for brook trout! I would hate to see what you guys use for cats.
     
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    Wrong fuse on it. Note the "lugs" on it. That type of fuze was never used on mk2 grenades.Not even the practice ones.
     
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    Looks like an inert.
     
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    Hole in the bottom? Practice pineapple.
     
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    When I was a kid I had a dummy practice grenade that I would tie to a trot line. I secured the line on my side of the creek and tossed the grenade across. Somebody on the other side must have found it one day and stole it. :(:17:

    We used to throw M-80's in the creek and the carp would jump out as far as the eye could see!! :cool:

    -John
     
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    My moms friend from highschools father died. When going through his war chest they found a couple of live grenades. The bomb squad came in and took them to the high school football field and set them off.

    If it were me, I'd have kept them for "keepsakes" and not told a soul. Or made some earrings for grandma. One of the two.
     
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    Bizarre.
    Over here, every once in awhile they have to stop construction projects because they come across unexploded bombs from WWII.
     
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    Come on now, who among us hasn't been fishing a little creek and thought to themselves," There really should be a deep little pool right there, it would be the perfect spot for one."
    There are two types of people in this world, there are dreamers, and there are doers.
     
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    we need to ban those grenades
     
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    Way cool! The pin would have made a very unlucky snag! That would be my luck.
     
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    Some crusty old codger is probably watching this on the news and saying "I lost that lure there in 1955!"
     
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    I feel an apology is needed on my part re my earlier post. I've been around ordnance for yrs, and assume everyone knows what I know. I see a fake they see real,and react accordingly, which is great! There is/are tons of this stuff here in the states that was bring backs and trophys'. They are still quite deadly,some more so today. Losing an arm, or worse isn't worth the "cool" factor. Leave it be and call the authorities.
     
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    No need to apologize! I Googled images after you mentioned the look of the lug and I see the real top part does look different so it very well could be an inert grenade or something different. A few years ago they found an old landmine in another river I fish. No joke! And as a kid I remember a story in the about another mine that was discovered in the same river. I figured some crazy vet from the war decided to dump his souvenir explosives into all the local waterways, back in the day....either that or they are relics from the first attempted Canadian invasion of Michigan's U.P. lol
     
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    Sounds like maybe you might know something about that grenade? If it has been weighing on your conscience all of these years, you can confess and all will be good. ;)
     
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    Round these parts..we still use carbide and soda bottles..
     
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    Usually the case when families find this stuff...has to be safe when dumped in a river..no one will find it.
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't want to find out.
     
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    Yep, from the pic - not the right fuze. Also, the fuze bar looks blue which means it is a practice fuze.
     
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    That's one heck of a fishing line weight! :eek:
     
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    There's a grenade called a "pull fuse". It's used in booby-traps. It will detonate instantly when the pin is pulled. You better know what you're doing when it comes to explosive devices!! :eek:

    -John
     
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    A very generous offer, but I have no conscience.:)
     
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    Every now and again the fishing boats, called draggers, will get to close to old military dumping grounds and they end up bringing in a few of them mixed in with their sea clams. The city’s EOD officers get a lot more practice than I’d assume they like disposing of them.

    They must be pretty stable, having sat at the bottom of the ocean for years, bring tumbled around in the drag, hauled up from high pressure to atmospheric pressure, dumped into a hold, exposed to ice and cold and finally put in a bucket awaiting the police to arrive and remove them. I’ve never heard of one going off. Still they are nothing to play with and have a much bigger kill and injure radius than TV would have you believe.
     
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    Yeah, those old war movies where a guy jumps on the grenade to save his buddies and all you see is a poof of dust...guess what.
    Everybody in the kill radius will die or be horribly maimed.
     
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    Would make a Hell of a flint and steel striker. Just sayin...:54:
     
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    Heck no! I'd like to pick up a dozen down at the Piggly Wiggly.
     
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    @Primordial the dumping grounds that @werewolf won mentioned reminded me, didn't they find some drums of some military waste up by Red Cliff years ago?
    I kinda sorta think I remember it, or I might just be making it up, I'm not even sure.

    Edit:
    It looks like I'm not making it up after all!
    They've know about it since 1977.
    Here is a snip from the Duluth News Tribune:

    A 1990 search recovered two barrels that contained grenade parts, concrete and even a Honeywell coffee cup, but nothing highly toxic or dangerous. A 1993 search using high-tech sonar and video equipment mapped hundreds of the barrels, along with crates of unused ammunition and even junked vehicles and other big chunks of trash in the area a few miles off the Duluth ship canal.

    The most elaborate search occurred in 1994 when a U.S. Navy deep-water robotic submarine and a team of Navy deep sea salvage divers combined to recover seven more barrels containing scrap parts from cluster bombs and other military ordnance, along with garbage, ash and concrete.
     
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    Yeah those were the barrels. I think the Red Cliff Band were the ones who initiated the funds and investigation to try to recover/find out what was in them.
     
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    Cool fine glade everyone was safe.
    Prov 27:17
     
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    I would have.
    No use causing all that drama.

    Just pull pin, toss, get rid of the danger the way it was intended.
    (While hiding behind large solid object)
     
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    a long time ago we were issued some of those mini canadian grenades about the size of a gold ball. NO frag, shock only.

    Worked wonders getting some fish to supplement the c-rations.

    then some boy showed us hot to use a root, (I know which one, but not putting out, those who need to know can find out elsewhere)

    Ya mix it up and dump it in a small area of water and it stuns the fish and ya just walk around and pick em up off the surface when they float up to the top.

    Neither is fishing, but both are feeding large hungry groups.

    funny the stuff that happens or has happened in a Free Country. Pity it ain't as free anymore.
     
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    I live close to Fort Chaffee, which, for years was widely used for Army National Guard summer camp. Thousands of men and women spent their "2 weeks" at Fort Chaffee, which was initially built around WWII (1940's) to train troops and house prisoners. The Arkansas Game and Fish has managed much of it as a wildlife management area for decades. During archery deer season probably 15 years ago, a buddy and I got into the woods before daylight to find a place to stand and watch for deer. I followed some blue survey tape in, figuring it was someone's trail to a favored place to hunt. No cars/trucks were in the area, so I didn't think I would have company. Walking carefully and quietly, as not to break twigs or crunch leaves, I felt something oddly solid under foot. Using my flip phone as a light (yeah, that long ago) I saw something perfectly round under my foot. I had watched enough war movies that I was afraid I knew what it was. I said a quick prayer, took a deep breath and stepped back. Nothing. I kept stepping back and made a point to get across the creek and a few hundred more yards away. The object was about the size and similar in shape to a brake drum off of a truck. It was painted blue, which, at the time meant nothing to me. We went back to try to find it the next day, but it had been removed. A couple of years later, while in a local gun shop, I saw a very similar item lying on the floor near the cash register. When I inquired about what it was, the clerk told me it was a practice or dummy land mine. He confirmed my suspicions. NOT something I care to ever find again with my foot in the dark.
     
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    same here,its a daily thing,farmers finding bombs everyday
     

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