Fun Poll: How do you store your tarp guylines?

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Fun Poll: How do you keep your tarp guylines?

  1. Attached to tarp with a clip of sorts.

    7.4%
  2. Attached to tarp permanently.

    59.3%
  3. Attached to stakes.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Other - Explain in replies :)

    29.6%
  5. NO shock cord used.

    14.8%
  6. Attached using integrated shock cord mid-line.

    3.7%
  7. Attached using integrated shock cord at tarp end.

    3.7%
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  1. NJHeart2Heart

    NJHeart2Heart Backyard Bushcrafter Supporter

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    Choose an attachment style, and if you use shock cord, where it's attached.
    Feel free to add what you use for adjusting: knots, hardware, combination of both?

    :40::40:
     
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  2. HannahT

    HannahT Firebug Hobbyist Supporter Bushcraft Friend Bushclass I

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    I keep my ridgeline, stakes, and guy lines in a Foxlite Gear pouch. My guy lines are Zing-It and some hookworms from Dutchware Gear.

    On another tarp I have linelocs and leave the guy lines in them, usually tied up when it's being stored (I have a loop in the stake end and just slip the loops over the stakes when I'm putting it up).

    I enjoy trying new setups and am slightly obsessed with Dutchware Gear :D
     
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    NJHeart2Heart Backyard Bushcrafter Supporter

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    LOL! I TOTALLY relate!! :p One of my favorite parts of hammock camping is playing with suspension and tarp gear/techniques, not to mention practicing my knot skills :dblthumb:
    Just got an order in TODAY :rolleyes: : poles for my new (giant) tarp, beetle buckle suspension, and a 4some of fleas- because apparently I won't be satisfied until I own at least one piece of every item of Dutch bling (including the shirt to show my Dutch bling pride LOL!).

    Oh, and I'm also a bit obsessed with @FoxLite Gear. I love Cheryl's work, and she even did a custom pouch set for me!

    :40::40:
     
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  4. HannahT

    HannahT Firebug Hobbyist Supporter Bushcraft Friend Bushclass I

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    :D I'm always kind of excited to get a new tarp because I get to try new pieces of hardware! I love how light and compact it is :)
     
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    I checked "Permanently attached to tarp". I keep separate suspension lines and guy lines attached to my tarps so there's nothing to forget or lose. The suspension lines are both Dyneema, with titanium Dutch hooks on either end. The guy lines are Lawson Glow Wire without any hardware that I tie off with simple tautline hitches. I'm not a fan of snakeskins and prefer Bishop sacks to store my tarps. [Edit: Bishop sacks for hammocks, stuff sacks for tarps.]

     
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  6. NJHeart2Heart

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    Nice! thanks for responding. Will watch the vid shortly!
    :40::40:
     
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    Keep everything in a stuff sack. One in the truck, one in my pack and a spare I bring along in the camera bag.

    dave
     
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    Hey Dave,
    My question was what your guylines are attached to? Do you keep your guylines separate from both stakes and tarp?

    :40::40:
     
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    All of above except permanently attached to tarp because I only have one tarp for both ground and hammock so I need to play with the set up considering the location, environment and weather.
     
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    Yep. I get that. Mine are not permanently attached either. I have more than one tarp, but I am forever wanting to try new techniques and hardware :)
    :40::40:
     
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    clips never crossed my mind. lol.
    thanks.
     
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    I try to get my lines as tangled together as possible.
    Not really, but sometimes it happens.
    So.... attached.
     
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    I put other. I use a square tarp in many different configurations. My ridgeline stays through the middle attachment of my tarp and goes in the tarp stuff sack. The lines go into a small Ziploc and the stacks go into a stack bag. Both of these bags go in the stuff sack. Just lines and knots, no hardware. All lines are hanked in a figure 8.
     
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    I usually just pull out a rat's nest of tangles and then swear about it for a couple of minutes while I get rained on and untangle it... yeah it's a sweet system.
     
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    I keep my ridge line and guy lines in a Bushcraft Outfitters pouch with my tent stakes. That way I always know where everything is and it doesn't get lost.

    IMG_1766.jpg
     
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    Dude! You stole my system!
     
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    I put all my lines, whether it be paracord or bank line, into a daisy chain as I hate to have to untangle knots
     
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    My thinking is similar to both of these. I have multiple ways of setting up (continuous ridgeline for hammocking, 2 shorter lines that can just be attached to the ends of my tarp so I can set it up pup-tent style with trekking poles, etc.) in the same bag, as well as some bank line for anything I missed, guy lines, and a whole pile of stakes. My hammocking tarp is a little different, with everything attached to the tarp (it's a winter tarp, which has a lot of flexibility).
     
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    When pitching a tarp, I often use a combination of the bowline, prusik, and tautline hitch. Because the bowline forms a secure loop that will not jam and is easy to tie and untie it is one of the most useful knots to know. I use this particular knot when setting a ridge line, as-well-as attaching quide lines. Both applications are always in combination with a hitch which can be slipped to tighten or loosen along a line, then holds under load; the tautline hitch is extremely useful for lines that may need adjustment. With this same desire for ease of adjustment along the ridge line, I make use of two prusik knots since they slide easily along a tight rope yet jam solidly upon loading.

    http://ogrd.net/public/knots/Winnie the Pooh - Not Knot.mp4

    I keep my ridge line and with two prusik loops attached and a bowline fixed on the end kept wrapped around some stakes; tie-outs are fixed to three points on each side of tarp. This works for me since I (most often then not) set my tarp up in an A-frame configuration.

    ..not my video, but clearly illustrated:
     
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    I'll tell ya.. that figure 8 hank style transformed my cordage organization! Great technique!

    :40::40:
     
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    LMAO!!!! :18::18::18:
     
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    Nice pic. I need to share some images..cause it's just more fun that way :p

    :40::40:
     
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    "Other" for me. I typically leave the guylines attached to the tarp, but then they become a tangled mess. I figure 8 my ridgeline, so I'm not sure why I don't do the same with my guylines. I typically attach the guylines to the tarp with a lark's head knot and a half hitch; the stake end gets a tautline hitch so I can adjust them. I'm going to try a new system with the reflective guylines I recently bought. Small loop tied tied permanently at one end, push it thru the tie-out and use a toggle. Then the other end will go around the stake and get a tautline hitch. At the end of the outing, the toggles get tossed and the guylines get tied up in a figure 8 and into a ditty bag.
     
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    Yep. Know and use all those knots. All useful.
    :40::40:
     
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    When I use a hammock, I use a catenary cut hex with 6 tieouts. they're all tied to the tarp.

    On dayhikes/hunting, I carry a BCUSA poncho. It's both rain gear and tarp. But I have to be ready to wear it foremost, so tied-on tieouts are kind of a pain. I used to roll them up really tight/small and keep them attached, but they still got caught on things. I also made some pockets in the seams of my GI Poncho at one point, to stick them in, but that was still a pain (though they didn't catch on anything, and it was a great solution.) So for my poncho, I carry 5 guylines separately, rolled up in the bottom of the poncho stuff sack... 4 are about 4-5'long, and the 5th (designed to help pull the center up, like to an overhanging branch or bent-over sapling) is about 6' long. You can also do this with 4 bungi cords, but they're heavy.

    On my BCUSA 10x10, well, one of the reasons I like that plowpoint setup so much is that you don't need tieouts... a simple ridgeline (40' of ultralight synthetic cord weighs an ounce) does it all. I usually tie the peak off with a long bungi around a tree, then use 5 stakes around the edges (only need 3, but 5 is more secure and roomier.)
     
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    I use a pouch from TAD gear, very similar to a pouch maxpedition still makes, I fold up the lines and then tie the into a big not, so each line is it’s own big knot. The pouch has extras, plus carabiners and my stakes, and some bits of a very lightweight pack cloth that I made into sand anchors.
     
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    @Outdoor Dauber instead of messing with toggles, run your stakes through the loop end of your guidelines and run the other through the tight out and do a tanght line hitch or half hitch.
     
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    Hope you don't mind me asking a question @NJHeart2Heart

    Question for everyone: do you adjust the stake end or tarp end of your guidelines (if they're not already attached)?
    I adjust the tarp end because it is usually higher off the ground and easier to manipulate.
     
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    Mostly attached unless I stole bits if the cord for something else. Then there's a tied on piece to make length. The remainder just gets wrapped around in a big mess
     
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