Golden Hawk square stern Canoe?

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  1. J. Pierce

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    Any of you ever been in a Golden Hawk square stern canoe?

    They are made here in Wisconsin, and it seems like it might make a good small lake/river travel and fishing rig.

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    The 12'-9" fiberglass square stern weigh something like 65 pounds and is rated for up to a 4hp motor. They make a 10' version too.
    They look super stable, not sure I'd want to paddle one real far, but with a motor I think I could go a lot of places.

    Years ago I had a little narrow 12' V-hull with a 5hp motor. I could run up river through rapids, slide over beaver dams, run tiny little creeks, and get all sorts of places a motor boat should not be. I miss those days.......

    I see used aluminum transom canoes for sale occasionally, but they are always at least 17 footers, and sometimes big 20 something grand lakers. Way to big for what I need or want. Aluminum is loud too.
    The old used fiberglass flat backs I've found are all over a hundred pounds.

    Anybody have one of these ugly Golden Hawk canoes, or recommend something similar?



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    Check Radisson or Sportspal. They are wide, light,and up to 14' (I think). They used to make square sterns that weren't quite as ugly as what you posted.
     
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    Golden Hawk used to have a booth at the National Trappers Association conventions so I have looked them over a few times. Never used one myself but I have talked to a few people that have used them and they seemed to like them. Creek Boats out of NC makes a light type of completely open deck heavy duty plastic pirogue with a reinforced transom for a trolling motor. I have used them and they are pretty good for hauling gear into hard to get places.
     
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    Stolen pic, but I have a 17' and a 13' Old Town Discovery sport identical to this:
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    They're both great on the water. Stable, can be paddled, rowed, or motored along. They arent as nimble as a true canoe, but im happy with them. The 17' is hard to paddle for one person, but the smaller boat is easy to do on my own. I love having the option of dropping a prop in the water if the kids get grouchy, storms roll in, we stayed out too late, etc. They're 65 lbs and 85 lbs. Couldn't recommend them high enough. Ive seen a guy run one on the New River in whitewater, not something id do, but can be done. I paid just less than $700 for the pair.
     
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    There are Old Town dealers nearby, they don't have any in stock. But they could order one for me. I was thinking they were heavier than that. I had a traditional double end Discovery years ago. Tough boat, you could make bad mistakes, and treat it wrong and it just kept going.

    The foam on the Sportspal/Radisson canoes kinda turned me off and I haven't found a dealer in the area.

    The Golden Hawk transom is ugly, but I bet it works well. A wide transom on a V-hull or a skiff can really catch the current in a river and shove you around.


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    Not only are they ugly, they are tuff to paddle, wide beam + the foam.
     
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    I'm not real concerned about how this boat would paddle. I'm looking at it as a narrow motor boat.

    I paddle a 12' long 26" beam 25 pound Kevlar canoe. Any of the above boats are going to feel like I'm paddling a swim raft with a tablespoon compared to my current canoe.

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    Given what a boat costs new, I would hit up Craigslist or whatever local classifieds you have and see what's available. I drove a couple hours to get my smaller boat for $200. The other was $425 or so at a local pawn shop. Msrp on a new disco sport 15 is like $1500. If I had found a Sportspal or a Gheenoe cheap, that's what I'd have went with. I just got lucky and happen to be really into Old Town anyway. I know others are good craft also.
     
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    I have one. I have paddled it alot but I just put a motor on it last summer. It is light and nimble but not overly tough and the transom set up sucks. you need extra long battery cables and a longggg handle. there are better boats out there.
     
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    I hadn't thought about the handle length, that's a very good point. Thanks.

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    Oh I'm not set on a new one, I'm keeping my eyes open for used preferably.
    I've even thought about building a small skiff, but I don't really need any more half finished projects.

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    I had a 13' x 38" canoe. I didn't think it was much of a tandem. Too wide to solo with a paddle. That Golden Hawk 12'9" looks like it would be decent as a motorized solo if you have the right setup for motor control.

    I would tend more to the Wenonah Backwater.
     
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    That Wenonah Backwater is really nice, but at around 25 hundred bucks, MSRP I might be money ahead to hire a guide, and just ride in his canoe.

    I found a little one man canoe shop less than 2 hours from my place. He is closed right now, but said I should come see him in April.
    He has Old Town, Wenonah, Golden Hawk and used inventory. If I don't find anything between now and then I'll probably head down there and see what he has. At least then I can test them out on the water.

    Next thing is.... I have to find a decent used little outboard with an integral gas tank.

    This is gonna get expensive.
    Maybe I need to sort some gear and sell off some items I'm no longer using.........

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    I've had an Old Town Pack for 10+ years and like it for fishing solo. I use a kayak paddle for traveling and a std one for maneuvering.

    Problem is that I can't take anyone with me, dog or wife.


    So I went a tad bigger. Found an old Alumacraft CS-14. It's 14'x38" (25" at the stern). I haven't had a chance to put her in the water yet. LOL



    I rode in my buddies Grumman Sport Boat this fall and really liked it. But at 15'3"x43" it's just a tad too wide for paddles. With the Swamp Runner it is awesome however.

    I plan to get the Mini Swamp Runner after a while. 3hp should be plenty manageable.

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    I really wish that somebody (other than Raddison or Sportspal) would come out with a new 14'x 36"-40" square stern aluminum canoe.
     
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    Don't ever sell that pack canoe, I've been watching for one in driving distance for several years here. I have settled on a Disco 119, but if one of those pack models ever pops up its mine.
     
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    I bought my American Eagle fiberglass 11' square stern new I think back in 2004. It weighs in at 45 pounds so easy to carry. I paddle, row, and motor this canoe in fresh, brackish, and saltwater. I'm happy with it. American Eagle no longer makes an 11' but they now make a 12' "Eaglet": American Eagle 12' Eaglet Square Stern Canoe - Fishing Package

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    I run 4 different motors on my square stern canoe. My first motor was a air-cooled 3hp 2-stroke Tanaka 300 I got on eBay hardly used. They even shipped to Hawai'i. My second motor was also a 3hp Tanaka but this one had a black fuel tank and sold under the Gamefisher 3.0 label. A friend here in Hawai'i gave me this one. I was going to use it for parts but a new tiller arm I made from a section of Galvanized EMT (original tiller totally rusty) a new spark plug, and fresh fuel had it running like a champ ever since. I even put a "MayTag" decal on each side of motor because of it's dependabilty. 3rd motor is a 30lb. thrust Evinrude electric trolling motor my brother on the mainland sent me 10 years ago. I've gone through 2 batteries and the motor's still going strong. My latest motor I got new on eBay back in 2008 a 2.5hp 4 stroke Suzuki. It is quiet, and not smoky like my Tanakas but not 100% reliable like my Tanakas which have never let me down but a strong 98%. I think it may have to do with 15% ethanol in our gasoline. It's a tad scary when you're 5 miles offshore, and suddenly your motor starts sputtering then dies out. I always carry a small tool kit and extra spark plugs so never more than an inconvenience (so far). My next 5 gallons of fuel I'm buying at the local marina ethanol-free.
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    If 2 strokes can be run in your local waters I highly suggest getting a used 2 stroke. They are very reliable and relatively affordable in the used market. Parts are available too especially for Johnsons, Evinrudes, and Mercury. I love vintage outboards from the 50s and 60s.
     
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    Very interesting, I've never seen the American Eagle brand. I'll have to look into those.
    I've seen Tanaka motors, and Gamefishers, but I don't know anyone who has owned one.

    This is great, you all have been very helpful. I appreciate it.

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    The oars make paddling the 17 a lot easier.
     
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    I also run a vintage 2 stroke. 1967 3 hp Johnson Seahorse folding motor. Runs like a top and easy to work on. I never would have thought of someone in Hawaii messing around with the same kinds of old engines I do here in WV. Goes to show you how versatile they are.
     
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    I love the old Johnsons & Evinrudes with the aluminum clamshell covers and their smoky 24 to 1 gas/oil mix. They are getting pretty rare here as so many things made of metal put in storage the salt air here corrodes or rust them if neglected. Back in the 60s and early 70s those older engines were still quite common. The later 70s and 80s 2 strokes were nice too though they lack some of the character of the early motors. We had a 4hp a 5.5hp, a 15hp, and a 28hp.
    I subscribes to this guy's YouTube channel because I get all nostalgic watching him run these old motors which I believe he restores and sells: chrysleroutboarddude

     
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    Tanakas were good good little motors. They should have been more popular than they were. Marketing I guess; or maybe they couldn't compete with OMC and Mercury who both made excellent small motors. Before they were called Tanaka they were called 'Aqua Bug'.
    They also made a 1.2 Tanaka/Aqua Bug motor.
    They've got a cult following and new/old parts are still out there.
     
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    +1 on the ghenoe, used my dads a lot until it was stolen. Paddled and electric motor, many configs available, very cool product.
     
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    Here's the SPS Mini Swamp Runner. I'm going to start with the 79cc Predator motor from Harbor Freight.

    Just like this guy's set up.

     
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    You guys are not helping me much!

    Now I want no less than 7 new boats and 8 new motors.
     
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    Our gheenoe was a 16', this one is slicker!



     

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