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  1. Pastor Chris

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    Solid looking entry @OMRebel ! It must be exciting to get to the end of stage 1! I hope Iz gets back too to check you off!
     
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    Me too, Pastor Chris, and I hope he is doing okay. Thanks for watching and for all the encouragement!!
     
  3. Pastor Chris

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    He's doing fine, just busy. He is very active on Instagram.
     
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    Well done @OMRebel ! You did a really nice job shingling those bark pieces. It looked like it would have kept you dry if the rain showed up.
     
  5. OMRebel

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    Thanks, NWPrimate, I felt very confident about it. I hoped it would rain some, but I am sure it would've held up. It was one of the more fun challenges.
     
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    Great Work!
     
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  7. Pastor Chris

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    The new Council of Hardwoodsmen is calling that a Go! Good choice on wood selection and use of the breeze to vent the fires. In the future make sure you show the height of the flames for your fires. Also, a good high brace for the second and third fires would be a good idea too. Well done!

    Give us some time to continue reviewing your other submissions and you will hopefully be clear for Stage Two soon!
     
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    @EvanStinson we have decided it is a GO! for the man in the creek drill. Few hints and precautions though; try to hurry the process up a little by making a quick bridge/lean to/brace log so there is air under things and the fire can get going faster. If you were on the edge of hypothermia you might have had some problems.
    Great job and keep on trucking!!
     
  9. NWPrimate

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    Way to embrace the @Iz spirit @Pastor Chris ! :18: I really like the strict guidelines for documentation in these challenges. It adds a lot of credibility to that hard-earned Hardwoodsman title under your name knowing that your entries stood up to the scrutiny of someone that is paying attention and isn't going to let you half-ass anything.

    (clarifying that of course I'm not saying that @OMRebel would ever phone it in, but it is nice to see that the standards are being upheld)
     
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  10. Pastor Chris

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    Minus a bazillion points for the 25 minute video, but plus one for the beard!

    That's a Go Evan!
     
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    LOL, that is truly the spirit of @Iz!!
     
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    These three are a GO!! Great job, you can proceed to stage 2. @OMRebel

    One thing you may keep in mind. While watching your OHOHSWF it would have been easier for you if you had a better base to split on. The wood you were trying to split was jumping and making you have to do twice the work.
     
  13. Pastor Chris

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  14. EvanStinson

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    Felt like at least that long for that one pile of shavings to catch. More small stuff, more small stuff.
     
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    I'm waiting for you to cut off a big chunk of your beard to use as tinder.
     
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    I'm saving it for a real emergency.
     
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    You persevered tho and got it done great job your well on your way!
     
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    Bump

    Getting close to resolution making time. Who wants to be a Hardwoodsman?
     
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    I've got a couple failed attempts under my belt, one fire chain that just would not happen and one 3xswf where my camera literally died right before I went to light the fires. I have a new camera now that I'm learning to use and hope to start posting some challenges very soon. I am going to warn you all, my video skills suck more than my photography skills!
     
  20. Pastor Chris

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    That sounds like exactly where I was when I began! No video skills, and many failed attempts for fire chain. I found tripod mount for my phone and used that for almost all of it and that worked very well.

    As it says, "Prepare/Persevere"

    You'll get it!

    [​IMG]IMG_3041 by Chris Scrivens, on Flickr
     
  21. kcardwel

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    yes, that is what the hardwoodsman is all about
     
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    Hopefully this all works out ok. It's a 15 minute video, sorry. I wasn't totally sure what to cut out and I didn't want to leave out any important parts. My son did a little puppet shadow show for you in the middle, so hopefully that helps. It took me 15 hours to upload the thing, so hopefully I can keep the videos shorter in the future.

     
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    Hopefully this all works out ok. It's a 15 minute video, sorry. I wasn't totally sure what to cut out and I didn't want to leave out any important parts. My son did a little puppet shadow show for you in the middle, so hopefully that helps. It took me 15 hours to upload the thing, so hopefully I can keep the videos shorter in the future.

     
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    Great job @atlastrekker !

    I hear you on the upload time issues. I have a slow connection too, and uploading a video can be maddening. I don't know what video editing software you are using, but it may have the option to publish it in different formats and you may be able to find one that makes a smaller sized file without compromising too much quality. So far MPEG4 has been the best for me in that regard.
     
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  25. atlastrekker

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    I have just been using windows movie maker. So far I've made them into MP4 files, but part of the problem is definitely the internet service itself. We are pretty much the last one on the wire, so it's horrible when folks are home in the evening watching Netflix or whatever.

    I am learning quite a but about all this stuff, so that's good. The other issue that I'm having is worrying too much about the video, not watching the work at hand. In the above video you can see on the third fire I actually put it out by dumping saw dust and crap on it. I had to restart it... just not thinking!

    Thanks for the kind words and motivation. I appreciate it.
     
  26. OMRebel

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    Way to keep at it! You know, maybe doing these challenges not only makes us Hard woodsmen, but also Hard videos-men as well

    :dblthumb:

    standing by for more!!!
     
  27. kcardwel

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    I watched it and referring it to the pastor to look at next since at least two of us need to watch. Good job. The last fire seemed to be troublesome but you got it. When I did this stupid me, made the two outside fires and they were pretty close together and then did the middle one. got a little hot :)
     
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    Thank you Ken. I'll be looking forward to hearing what @Pastor Chris has to say.

    On another note, I went down this morning to do the man in the creek drill. I thought I had good stuff in my fire kit. I thought I was going to check an easy box. Looks like I need to think again! The creek was down in a canyon that never gets any sun. Everything and I mean everything was soaking wet. I tried a few different times and struck out pretty hard. I am glad I tried in a spot that is difficult, because that's where the real deal would happen. Hopefully the next run will be better.
     
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    I would love to hear more about this if you care to share more details @atlastrekker .

    Ordinarily I would apologize for derailing a thread at this point, but unfortunately there are only a small number of people actively paying attention to it, and I think they're all fire nuts who can appreciate the lessons in a fire attempt gone wrong.
     
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    I have a video of it. I'll upload it tonight as that might make it easier to describe. I'll start another thread, because it's probably something others would encounter and I wonder how many people have ever really tried this. Making a fire with no fore-thought means you are going to be a victim of whatever scenario is given to you. In this case we had a total soaker over night a couple days back, and like I said this creek get's zero sun due to its location in a steep canyon. To complicate things there was very little standing dead, though there was quite a bit of hard wood with no leaves that was hard to tell if it was dead or not. Even worse, there was moss on everything that was dead, and I'm sure you know what that does.

    I chose this place because it is what every place I might fall into a creek near by would be like. Very eye opening.
     
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    It would be interesting to see all the fail videos we have done. Maybe we should start a not so hardwoodsman thread and post the failures to use as a learning tool..?

    Either way, failure is not final if we learn from it. "Prepare and persevere!"
     
  32. atlastrekker

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    An outtakes type of thread might be very helpful for those who come next. I wish I had some insight on mistakes others have made.
     
  33. Pastor Chris

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    Three of us watched the video and agree that it is a go @atlastrekker ! Good to have you in the pipe!
     
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    Yay! Thank you. More to come soon.
     
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    Congratulations on the first step, looking forward to seeing more!
     
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    Practice making some smaller prep. Y0u were using pine so it didn't really matter but when you use hardwoods your pencil lead and pencil sizes will make all the difference, especially fire in the rain.

    Good Job and welcome to the suck.
     
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    Thanks!

    Thank you, sir! This was actually incense cedar and it was super dry, so I was real sure it was going to go. Normally I would get it smaller if I wasn't so sure. Thanks for the good advice. No rain in the 10 day forecast, but I'm real excited about knocking the fire in the rain drill out. I'm gonna go do my rain dance now....
     
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    Talking with my wife who is a USCG licensed 1600 ton ocean master about navigation the other day she wrote this down for me to remember about deviation.
    2017-12-07 06.41.37.jpg

    Some old sailor speak for you land lover types. My excuse for not knowing this stuff by heart is I'm an engineer and work down in the engine room. They don't let us look out the window much. I might argue it's because they don't want us to see that the deck department isn't doing anything, but....

    My land nav video didn't exactly go as I had hoped. I would guess thats what this is all about. I started off through the woods and ended up crossing a series of mountain bike trails that criss crossed down into the canyon. If one was lost without a map and decided to follow "the trail" that they found they would essentially walk 10 miles to go 2. There was one small section I had to use a little bit of the trail to bypass a super thick brushy section, but I mostly just used the points where I crossed those trails to gather my bearings. I will add, that these trails are not on the topo map, or any other map that I could find. I'm not sure how they know where they are going, maybe the local mountain bike club has them all mapped?

    I'll add the video in just a minute.
     
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    Here is my submission for the man in the creek drill.



    I'll also post up the unsuccessful attempt that I had yesterday as well.



    Thanks to @kcardwel and @Pastor Chris and the rest of the council.
     
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    Good job!

    In the failed video, what was the tinder you were using? It went up pretty good...
     
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    For both videos I used my wife's lightning strike and the cotton ball things that come in the case. In the failed video I knew it was wet as **** so I also used my secret weapon, the thing I thought could light ANYTHING, but didn't. PJ soaked cotton balls stuffed in a TP roll. I was like, "oh goodie, I got this..... oh crap.... I don't got this!"
     
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    We're going to have to say NO-GO on the map and compass. Mostly because you left out key elements.


    No go.jpg

    We couldn't see where you were going on the map, didn't see any map and compass orientation and although you told us about the trails, you should show us you know how to navigate around obstacles. Methods used and such. I suggest you go and watch some of our videos to see as some requirements aren't clear.
     
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    Ahhh, I remember my first no-go, and second, and third, and fourth. I think it was four total, maybe five.
     
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    In essence you need to lay your compass on the map and orientate it to the map(align the grid lines to north and south of your compass) and then if your compass doesn't have an automatic fix for declination you need to either add or subtract that declination to get the true north. If you live in the sierras then the declination is east around 12 degrees, so you would subtract that amount to get true north. Then point out on the map the location you are headed to and give a bearing in degrees of where that is and follow it. Iz had a whole thing about this and it was lost...he talked of getting your pace figured out(how many paces it would take to go say a 100 yards) and then you could use pace beads as you go. this is especially helpful if you have to go around obstacles that are in your way of the bearing you are headed to.
     
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    I have watched all the videos, but I will watch them again. I will also include more details on the next go. So, to be specific, I need to show on the map where I am, that I know how to adjust for declination, navigate around obsticles and show that I know where I am at several points along the way. Correct?

    Would it suffice to show a track line on my map? By that I mean, mark my starting point, mark way points, and then mark my destination?
     
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    I knew it was coming. I won't post halffast again.
     
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    MAN IN THE CREEK.......

    No Pants GO.jpg


    Don't worry about breaking up the branches, just throw them on. The end game is to get back with as much as possible so you can go out and get more as that builds up.
     

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