Discussion in 'Packs, Bags & Pouches' started by foxfire, Jan 2, 2015.
My new Umlindi daypack loadout. Running the 5.11 2 Banger Gear set on the front
I was thinking that as well on the HPG website it shows it with a 110L dry bag on it.
@DaStoner47 Think that Banger could fit on a Recon belt? Looking great btw!
Probably, there's some good spots to Jerry rig a mount. Let me know if there's some interest in how I did it, I could also try it on a prairie belt
Thanks, I am trying my best to build a dedicated belt kit or modular buttpack-like system.
I think HPG belts are the best base option.
Check out the Velocity Systems Jungle Buttpack for a more traditional looking butt pack option but made with more modern materials
Thanks! Others I have been looking at are from Tactical Tailor and some other similar options....
Part of me wishes the Hill People Gear option was in stock.
The Decker is still a couple of months out from being available
I’ve been playing around with the HPG Capture Flap. I added a milsurp canteen carrier to hold a canteen cup and Nalgene Oasis bottle on the front of my Tarahumara. I’ll see how well it carries when full of water. If it works it should provide a simple water/cook solution for when the Tara is full.
I’m curious to see what all I can fit int the canteen pouch. Maybe a small fire kit in one pocket and water tabs in the other for days I might carry just the canteen kit.
I ordered a couple potential options for a buttpack. Amazon seems to have those and some more available. Easy to return if I don't like the option.
Next item to track down is a harness that fits onto the Recon Belt. Anyone know if HPG's harnesses (the three that are available) fit with the Recon Belt?
Pretty sure there are an abundance of MOLLE/PALS harnesses around the web......
I'd be curious to see which ones you decided to give a try. Also yes, those harnesses would work with the recon belt, though it would require a little rigging as there is not the specific spots for it like on the prairie belt. To be honest if you plan on using the buttpack as more of a daybag/lumbar set up, I would go with the prairie as it is better set up to handle larger loads. The recon belt was designed as more of a battle belt that could be used as a pack belt. Also the Velocity Systems Jungle h harness wouldnt be a bad option if you didnt want to go HPG
Lunch out on the trail. Used my Tuff Possum Gear bag to hold my lunch and snacks on the inside of my Tara.
Just bought a ahbc pack can’t wait till it gets here.
Anyone tried contacting HPG lately? Did they respond/return your call? How long did it take?
Contacted them 2 weeks ago. They picked up when I called and answered all questions I had.
They usually answer emails within a day or two, always helpful. They want to make any issues right
Good to hear. I'll try again, probably Monday.
I emailed them yesterday and they responded within 12hrs. I'm in Kabul so there is a time difference.
They called back Monday. Wanted $7.50 to ship some straps! Just webbing, no clips.
Postal rates have gone up. They’ve had to adjust accordingly. They’re not Amazon Prime.
I think they generally use USPS Priority too.
Their shipping prices are fair, considering that I shipped an item back to exchange for a different color and it cost me 24 and they charge 16.
For a small business their shipping charges are nominal for the big ticket items. They struggle with both price and logistics for small items. You kind of need to plan and throw a bunch of small items together or tack them onto a bigger order.
Also, the gear is a good price for what you get. Part of that is the customer paying shipping, which I believe is fair. But I will say I wait to order from a company like that until I am getting at least a few things so it hurts a little less.
Just ordered the Decker Pack Frame in Ranger Green! Woo Hoo can’t wait to try this new setup.
What are you going to run inside the Frame? I was thinking water proof dry bags could be a neat option.....
Thats what I am thinking, dry bags for separate components ... Shelter, food/ cook kit, sleep system and clothes. Will need to do some experimenting this summer to find what works, I do like the idea of being able to switch out dry bags as the trip requirements change. Any ideas are welcome.
I have a conner pack / pocket that I have been looking for a way to use. As a pack I dont like the conner but as a compression component for the decker it may be a winner.
I really want to order one! It seems like it would solve all my imaginary problems with the ute, but I was on the HPG forums and read I believe Evan say he would use the ute or the qui-ya and only use the decker if he had really awkward loads. I also still want an external frame... but after 7 years I can't say I've given up, but I'm not expecting it soon. Might convince some funds loose after the next paycheck for a decker!
(Also, they've come out with some really neat products lately that I want to try - admin pocket, aston panel - I can't help but think this would be great on my umlindi!, redesign of the PALs pocket... so much gear so little money!)
Ordered a Decker Pocket from HPG to use on the Decker frame, picked up 60 lt and 30 lt dry bags. I own a Conner pocket so with this combination I think I have enough options to load up give this set up a try. Received notification that HPG had shipped so I expect that I will have the Decker Frame and Decker pocket by this weekend. Going to load up and do an overnighter with 20 miles or so to sort out this system.
Let me know how you like the Decker set up. As my sons get older and move into Boy Scouts I'll need a bigger pack myself. I was almost set on the Ute until I saw they were releasing the Decker. I already have dry bags, so thought this pack might be a viable option.
Hope it works out for you. My new Butt Pack arrived from @GoKartz today. I plan on putting it to work ASAP.
I'm looking at getting an Aston Pocket for my Umlindi to add some organization and give me a little more room for overnights.
Anyone else running this setup and have input on it?
The HPG Butt Pack completes a great kit!
More pictures and possible configurations will come soon. I plan on keeping this as a dedicated day kit for Summer or sweaty weather.
~ Water canteen's on each hip using the Helikon-Tex E&E Pouch.
~ Possibly some snacks in the same E&E pouches
~ Extra contingency gear in the Butt Pack?
Maybe I will even add a dedicated harness to it?
I would love to read some thoughts on this type of system.
for a lumbar pack setup with a couple of canteens/snacks/clothing/survival bit/etc- I've found you definitely want a harness, makes a huge difference on how well things carry
Right now I am using the shoulder strap which came with the Butt Pack along with a strap pad for it.
In a couple weeks I am going to be doing lots of beach hiking to test out the system. Until then I am going to see how the system handles in the woods around here.
Should work well for a long, hot, humid summer.
I am interested in your results. I have the butt pack, MCC and a folding saw on a prairie belt. I have not done any extended trail busting but have worn it around camp for 4 to 5 hours at a time and so far so good.
Moved my IFAK and other light but bulky items into my heavy recon. So much more room for activities in the tara. Now I just need want a butt pack to complete the setup
Do you plan on using the butt pack with a prairie or ranger belt or incorporating it somehow along with the Tara?
Currently, I use the tara in conjunction with what I call a 'shelter belt'. since the tara is so small it doesn't ride on the belt much if at all. The belt weighs 5lbs or less, and If I'm just going on a day hike or something, I can leave the belt at home. Once I've set up camp, I hang the belt to put things in and general camp stuff. The belt I currently have used to be my primary woods running bag with an h-harness, and so it isn't quite what I want for a shelter belt. Also, I asked for the tan, but they sent the camo, so its a little more tacticool than I'd like.
I think there are a bunch of new items on sale on the HPG site.
Lost of new interesting items.......will have to see what might fit well to round out some kit...
I like the belt kit set up! I'd add the pocket harness for a light weight option to help with overall support. I've had issues in the past with butt packs slipping off my back side....
I may use one or more of the new HPG pouches in place of the Canteen pouches from time to time.
The Butt Pack worked great on its own this past week. I think the hip areas, on the Recon Belt, could flex roles depending on my needs.
I was thinking a recon harness or padded suspender kit might be enough for my needs when doing more day hikes.
HPG bike bag on a very small adult frame (13.5”).
FYI, I ordered one in Ranger green along with this multicam bag. The multicam is a heavier denier than the Ranger. The multicam feels like normal 500d cordura, where the Ranger green is lighter. It doesn’t matter to me, just putting it out there. The multicam also costs $5 more.
I recently picked up a decker pack frame. It carries a 53lbs kettlebell very well, but I have yet to start really working with it. I think with this next paycheck I'm gonna steal away a little money to grab a decker pack bag, but what I really wanna do is buy some hunter orange silnylon and make a sack for the back. One day...
Got a radio pouch for the SAR V3 kit bag today! And some patches. Haven't taken this one out in the field yet, but I assume it will be pretty similar to my old V2 that @TattooBlade will be rocking soon. The reflective patches are from countycomm, and both are retroreflective (like street signs, the shine back whenever a light is shined on them), and glow in the dark, which they do exceptionally well. Really cool stuff, I figured it's a great way to spot my bag at night, and I cut one into thirds, so I can drop a couple to use as markers of needed. I may cut another into 1" or .75" squares to use instead, so that I can have more marking ability. It shouldn't sacrifice visibility, since all of them attached next to each other has the same effect as an uncut panel.
The AHBC is my next pack...honestly I am just waiting to find one for sale on the secondary market as the new price is super steep. I already have the Attache, so I am ready to rock this thing as an EDC bag or overnighter.
Great writeup...I have a long list of packs I have tried as well, and came to the same conclusion I believe.
You should definitely get the AHBC pack. I love mine and use it a bunch. It’s a good pack the has more features then the Tara but can be tightened down to the size of the Tara. Overall awesome pack
I currently use a GoRuck GR2 which is pretty good. But it appears the AHBC has a better suspension system, and like you pointed out, the compression panel allows for a huge volume change.
Its not a pack but the "under pack belt" they have is an awesome belt. No metal, no buckles, and is great when wearing a pack. I love mine.