How much ammo?

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  1. Mfraser161

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    Just acquired another 700 rounds of Russian surplus 7.62x39 with a Russian Tula SKS I purchased in a rifle/ammo combo deal for $450.
     
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    I’ve nailed down my 2 calibers to stock up on , 7.62x39 and .22lr.
    I now have 2 rifles in each caliber.
    2x SKS
    1x Remington 597 .22
    1x Henry Lever Action .22
    I’ve got enough ammo to practice plenty with all 4 rifles to remain proficient and still have an emergency stockpile in reserve.
     
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    Shortages of ammo seems to happen every election cycle, so I stock up on calibers I use the most: 9mm and .22. I like to plink with 9mm, and I hunt small game with my .22 often. When I first bought my Mosin-Nagant, I realized that good quality 7.62x54R surplus wouldn't last forever so I bought a few thousand rounds....I'm glad I did!

    Ammo lasts a long time when stored properly, and if you buy a box here and there, it adds up quickly! I'd rather have it than not, and if you die before you use it all, then your kids can shoot it all up instead!

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    I would, after some recent research, look at stocking as much as possible in the next year.
    I suspect 2020/2021 will see increased prices and decreased availability.
    I hope I'm wrong, but...
     
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    How much can you afford to stockpile?
    What if-- all you have is all you will ever have??
    How much is enough???
     
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    When you finally think, dang i have too much........nope, never
     
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    Well said
     
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    I remember the .22 shortage when all I could buy was three fifty round boxes a day. Also each day might be a different brand and that was if they had any to sell.

    Recently one local Walmart (no other Walmart) had Remington Thunderbolts 500 rounds on sale for $14.98 instead of the regular $19.99. So I would a box or two every paycheck until the price went back up. I think I got eleven boxes overall. I will buy when I see some on sale. I did see a local store sell the Remington Golden Bullet buckets 1400 rounds for $39.99, but I was not able to buy any at the time.

    GOD Bless you and your families

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    Remember these ? Milk cartons from the 80s-90s, probably collector items now maybe, I still have a bunch of these stored away along with what I figure is a lifetime supply for me certainly, I still buy ammo in bulk, I want my grandkids to have enough to shoot if they want, you can never have too much imho, I’ve slowed down but when I see a deal, I buy, nowadays I only buy .22, .45acp, 5.56, 7.62x39 and 9mm I buy reloading components for my expensive calibers, I also store caps for my percussion pistols and rifles, when the .22 drought hit, primers and percussion caps went away also, I also learned to make my own powder which I can shoot out of my flintlocks with a home cast ball or bullet, I guess it’d have to get pretty darn bad before I didn’t have anything to left to shoot .
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    To bug or not to bug... either way, ammo is going to be a very valuable trade commodity too!
     
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    With 20mm boxes, you really find out who your friends are!
     
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    That's sort of what my plan is. I stopped buying ammo a while back.

    I told my kids to enjoy the 22's and when we're down to one box per gun we stop plinking and save it for shtf.
    Same with 9mm, enjoy them till we're down to 3 magazines per gun per gun.

    All other calibers are enjoy them till we're out of ammo, then I'm selling those guns.

    It looks like politics is going to turn this next year into a buying frenzy for guns/magazines/ammo, and I'm staying out of it!
     
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    Not me!
     
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    I'm just tired of it. I got what I got and if I don't draw the line I'll never stop spending.

    I have more guns than I know what to do with. I justified them by saying this one is for my son, this one for my daughter, etc., etc. Now that I have accumulated what I have I think that's a little foolish!

    At some point I'll be happy to let most of them go.
     
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    I wasn't speaking for you, but speaking for me. And my 1.5 year old nephew. And his kids. ;)
     
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    If you wonder if you have enough, you don't. Once you quit wondering, you do. Then you only need to decide on a reorder point. As an example, for .22LR my reorder point is when I'm down to 10,000 cartridges.

    You ought to sell them now then.
     
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    That just reminded me of the time my wife and I moved out of a 3rd story apartment.

    She just had shoulder surgery, I just had hand surgery.

    I rigged a zipline from my "ammo room" window to the hitch on my truck in the parking lot. Sent my cans down one by one.
     
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    Great idea! Wouldn't work for me, though - mine are in the basement.
     
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    That is a SCREAMING deal. I have two Russian Tula arsenal SKS's I bought in the early to mid 90's for $90, and I keep a good amount of 7.62x39 on hand. It is an excellent all around rifle that has never failed me all these years. I prefer it over the AK pattern.
     
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    It’s hard to beat that price especially including the ammo.
    I’ve shot quite a bit through that rifle since posting that comment. It turned out to be the best sks of the 3 I have. It’s spot on accurate and has the nicest trigger one could hope for on an sks. It’s a keeper for sure.
    This pic is from my most recent trip out to shoot it , had it out with my M1a hitting a gong at 300 meters all day long.
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    Post the crash in 1929 practically all big game disappeared certain deer species were extinct and that with the population at the time now we have 10 times the population and fewer deer much less any thing else to hunt.
    Unless you are growing food there won't be much to find any where ,on top of that those that live in remote areas will be protecting it with their lives to keep intruders out for several reasons including food.
    What ,you think your just going to waltz into some ones backyard and start harvesting their work? think again.
    Best you can hope for is to live on your own reserves and be able to defend it .that and have enough family to defend it .
    Groups will survive if they are disciplined .
    Enough ammo.
    Figure that a simple cop bad guy fire fight burns a thousand rounds and no one is shot.
    Bad habits will have to change in so many ways, not necessarily resorting to single shot necessarily but being more stealthy and careful about spending ammo.
    If I am forced to leave on foot,
    I have a cart for hauling all the food and water I can about 300 lbs worth roughly .
    Weapons of choice might be my Marlin .17 HMR and Ruger security 6 - .357 mag..
    The 17 doesn't have the knock down power but the fragmenting ammo will do long range foraging and 1/5th the volume of the .223 in storage.
    Roughly 5K in reserve.
    Given there won't be hospitals to run to, any injury may end up fatal without proper care.
    For close range defense I figure the 357 mag should be sufficient. 2K mixed rounds.
    Small game, if any, should be taken with an air gun and or sling shot .
    Bow an arrow are a very last resort as a thousand arrows are not that easy to carry .
     
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    That's a beautiful SKS. Looks just like mine, and yes they are often more accurate than many people think. Nice M1a also.
     
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    Well, I said 20/21 might be bad years and to stock up.

    May need to start now. A panic may be coming by fall. I hope not, but...
     
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    Fewer deer since the great depression? Not by a very long shot.

    There are more whitetail in the USA than when Europeans came. And just look at the increase since the 1930s. Very resilient animal and very few predators. In almost all areas deer numbers are increasing.

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    That is cool looking. I need to be on the lookout for one. I still have a box of variety Remington .22lr that had 5 different types of 50 boxes. I bought that from Carters Country many, many years ago. One box was the Remington viper .22lrs then about a year ago I got a brick of the vipers that I have not seen since in bought that variety pack.

    GOD Bless you and your families

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    Ammunition is like firewood. When you think you have enough, double it.
     
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    God bless the pellet gun.
     
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    Never enough
     
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    Also think "trade goods." Imagine what a box of .22lr may be worth. Now consider a full brick..... ;)
     
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    Perhaps the greatest threat to modern civilization is a military-grade EMP. IMO the second greatest threat (in the USA at least) is a massive cyber attack on the power grids. In both cases the power grid will shut down. Because they also use electricity in their distribution systems, this will be followed shortly by failures of the natural gas and water utilities.

    Either may happen with little to no warning and -- Presto! -- we're back in the mid- to late-19th century.
     
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    Checking back into this thread. No emergencies have happened but money is much tighter right now and I'm glad I've stocked up ammo enough already to support hunting for many years and training for a couple years.
     
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    We have had this farm for 30 years. We have shed sweat, blood and tears to build it. Everything I need or want is here. There will be no bug out. I think this is all hype. Put survival gear or bug out gear on something and watch them line up to buy it. There is no escape. You don't run from what you own, you protect it.
     
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    In your circumstances it is certainly unnecessary. Therefore, to you, it is "hype."

    Not everyone has the same circumstances. For some, staying put is certain death, be it quick or slow.
     
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    In my circumstances? I have a farm. We would be a target. I believe in the old adage, you reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. If some one comes after me or mine, they will be punished.
     
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    Um, yeah, and you've been there 30 years. You said so, and those are the 'circumstances' I was talking about. The fact that you don't need said gear doesn't make it a hype.
     
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    Just the other day I bought 7 boxes of 20ga steel size 7 for $2 a box. I really did not need them but 175 shells for $14 I could not pass it up.

    Today I got some .22 win mag 50 round boxes for $7.50, I see these selling for $11 to $16 online plus shipping.
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    GOD Bless you and your family

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    To paraphrase an old cliché....You can't have your ammo and shoot it too.

    Always store a certain amount that you will keep laid aside except in the absolute emergency it's intended for. Because of my long background as a shooter and handloader, I have far more than I'll ever need. But as a practical matter,if we're taking about ammo for defense against humans, whatever you want for practice and use with about 200 rounds stored away.

    Jeff Cooper once said that if you've used 200 rounds, your problems will cease to exist or you will. I agree.
     
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