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  1. Buckbuster

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    Hello I am new to the site I have a question to ask? I love backpacking, I love camping, what I want to know is how does a Guy find a place where I can backpack and camp where I want. I see guys on YouTube all the time that are out west just hiking and when the mood strikes them just making camp wherever they please, but when I look online Everything I see says you have to camp and designated camping areas.
     
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    Look for local places with backcountry camping (some require you have a permit), make friends with land owners or farmers.
     
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    It depends on where you are. The best is private land. Second is a park That allows dispersed or primitive camping. Nobody just camps wherever they want.
    Welcome to BCUSA.
     
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    Howdy, and welcome from mid Missouri. As to your question, try to get access to private land for what you want to do. I hike with the dogs virtually everyday, and haven't been on public land in years. But, I own a nice chunk of ground, and have permission to trespass :) from all of my surrounding neighbors.
     
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    Where do you live?

    I do, as long as it's public.
     
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    Mid missouri
     
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    @castle22 beat me to it, you should be able to find something on NF website and land that you're wanting to do. I'd especially look at wilderness areas.
     
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    No advice young fellar, except that already given, but welcome to the camp. joe
     
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    I'm one of those guys out west who just wanders into the mountains and camps where ever I want. If I wasn't able to do that my first order of business would be to get on google earth and look at my immediate area. Find where your closest woods are where you would like to bushcraft then find out who owns it and go from there. There are probably more places than you think in your area that are bushcraftable! If all else fails talk to some land owners and see if anyone will let you on their land.

    Opportunities for bushcraft sometimes come from the most unlikely places :dblthumb:
     
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    Howdy from SE Texas. Welcome to the forum.

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    Truth. Although some areas have squatting laws that allow you to camp on private property, provided it is only one night and you leave no trace, don't break fences, shut gates, etc. Places that allow that don't seem terribly common.

    @Buckbuster If you love backpacking, you already know the best places to camp. I find places in the park system that either allow primitive camping or, when backpacking, have established primitive campsites. I'm no snob though, I don't turn my nose up at non-primitive backcountry sites.

    I'll also add to check out state game lands. Often the regulations are very different - for instance, just down the road from me (in PA) is a state park, where no fires are allowed that aren't in an established fire ring. However, the state game lands that are literally connected to the park allow small fires for cooking or warming purposes. Or, as another example, there are times you're NOT allowed to be in state game lands except in connection with hunting. Additionally, many state game lands in my area don't allow camping.

    Another place to look are state forests - similar but different. Again, different rules, different regulations. Often they seem to combine the best of state game lands and state parks, as far as my usage is concerned.

    I highly recommend you become thoroughly well-read on your states' Department of Conservation of Natural Resources (DCNR) website. It looks like y'all call it a little different, but here's a link to their site: https://mdc.mo.gov ... I clicked on Discover Nature, and searched for camping. It is a place to start at least.
     
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    Headed to gatlinburg this summer any recommendations on day hike trails?
     
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    Just come out west. :)

    Or what about Mark Twain NF? If it is like other NF out west, you can camp wherever you want.

    Oh, and welcome!
     
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    When are you planning to visit?
     
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    Late july
     
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    Welcome to the fine forum. A few thoughts from "out west".

    One government entity or another owns/claims/controls much of our western lands. Available are everything from BLM to wilderness Areas. Where I roam the only real "problem" to me is fire and the restrictions, which sometimes seem heavy handed, are necessary today. Not a [problem for me though. Some areas are pretty rigid in terms of use others not so much - probably like most places. But there is a lot of open space, at least for now. Common sense goes a long way as does understanding a few basic considerations about closing gates, cutting standing wood, trashing the land and such. There seem to be many more folks in some of the more easily accessible areas which is generally good in my view but there are some among them that seem oblivious as to where they are. Maybe they'll figure it out. Regardless things have changed but don't they always?

    Private land is something else as other noted. In my experience older folks tend to be pretty protective but approachable and reasonable. They appreciate what they have and don't mind others who think along the same lines. Best to ask up front. Newer folks seem to be more about gates, locks and exclusion. They're mostly a PIA and frequently absentee owners. Probably always been that way too.

    The states have pretty reliable maps that show common lands and are worth a look when planning. Just keep in mind that much of our western lands and especially the southwest are tinder box dry. Beautiful but dry.
     
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    Thanks for all ur guys help. I’m hoping to get me and my son out this winter and. “Bushcraft” it up. I’m a green horn so I don’t feel like I’m bushcrafting anything but simply getting lost.
     
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    I live and play in the ozarks.
    I'll second @rk_az the mark twain NF is all over Missouri.
    Lots of free space.
     
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    You have a LOT of FREE opportunities to camp overnight and explore throughout the day. I lived in Missouri for 10 years (St. Peters, Washington, Sullivan, Marionville and Ashland) before moving out for better job opportunities.

    All Missouri state parks do not have an entry fee, do not charge for the backpacking sites, and you do not have to use the designated site. Then there are the many Conservation areas that are perfect for day trips and don't forget the Ozark Trail and the several Mark Twain National Forest areas.

    Lots and lots of free camping and practicing! :)
     
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    While legally questionable, there are more than a few people around here who camp on cut-over utility easement land.
     
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    National forest, not state owned.
     
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    As far as camping "wherever you want", look for National and State forest/ Forest Preserve lands. This is not exclusive to the West. I have backpacked all over New York State, perhaps the most regulated state in the country, and the only rules in the Adirondacks and Catskills (public lands) is, as quoted from the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation: In general, you can camp anywhere on Forest Preserve lands in the Adirondacks and Catskills, but your tent must be at least 150 feet from a water body, road, or trail. Do not camp in areas posted with "Camping Prohibited."
     
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    Welcome, from that mecca of wilderness and bushcraft skills, Philadelphia! I'll reiterate what was said about state and national forests. You can generally do and go as you please, within reason.
     
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    welcome to the neighborhood from an hour west of KC.
    Mark Twain NF is a good resource, the river bottoms by Jamestown have some nice camping areas but not much for hiking.
    the rail trails offer lots of hiking and some camping.
    talk to the rangers at state parks about off-season and off-trail camping, if you're polite, often they are pretty accommodating once they figure out you're not going to trash the place.
    if you're willing to drive a bit, there's some good stuff on my side of the border -- one of my favorites is the woodridge primitive camping area on the west side of Clinton lake -- it's got a 5 mile hiking loop with multiple campsites tucked back off the main trail. the website I linked to might also let you search for similar places closer to home.
     
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