Looking for low cost high hardness carbon paring / bird / trout knife

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  1. TrespassersWilliam

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    Without taking a torch and redoing the heat treat myself... where are all the high hardness (60+ HRc) carbon steel production knives?

    Moras are great -- but I'm looking for a slicer. Roselli Wootz look nice too, but more than I would like to pay.

    Are there any other affordable options for a high hardness carbon paring knife?
     
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    Does ag russell carry anything like this anymore? They used to have nice bird and trout....i have one....and the woodswalker...hunter scalple.....check out their website...course dh russell has a bird and trout also....with carbon options..
     
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    For 8 bucks and a little effort that green river is the best of the bunch!
     
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    The Russell Green River knives look decent but they are 54-56 HRc. I am looking for 60+. If Morakniv can do it, others can too.

    The Mora Classic #1 should be serviceable -- would prefer something a bit thinner
     
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    I’m not sure on the hardness of this knife but it’s thin and slicey.
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    Calton Cutlery.
    Joe does some high hardness 1095.
    I'm not sure how much you are looking to spend. But you get a high performance knife, for what I think is a damn fair price.
    I have one of his paring knives in the kitchen, and I plan on getting one of his heavy paring knives for woods roaming.
    Don't be afraid to ask him questions, he won't steer you wrong, he is a great guy.
     
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    Zwilling has a 3.5" carbon steel paring knife 61RC for $150.
     
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    I'm pretty fond of my opinel paring knife, but I'd be surprised if the RC is over 58.
     
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    Jeremy McCullen of McCullen knives is working on a couple 1095 bird and trout knives at 65.5 hrc right now. He started them yesterday I think, so he may have them done already if not, they will be soon.
    I'm not sure if they are for sale or just for his own testing, but they were looking very appealing to me.
     
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    Sorry man, I just bought the McCullen.
    I wasn't going to, but I just couldn't resist.

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    How about this

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    $7.00 at the kitchen supply store.

    Wicked sharp, super flexi thin blade

    Weighs 1.1 ozs

    My backpacking fish knife.
     
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    Search for Opinel 102 on the web. Looks like a useful knife. Maybe you have to shorten the blade a little, it is approx. 4 inch

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    They are in the 57 - 59 HRC range, according to Opinel.
    I am going to buy this paring knife soon and give it a try.
     
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    @TrespassersWilliam I don't know if you're interested, it's not a production knife. But I just talked to Jeremy McCullen, he is working on one more knife right now. He said it will be like the 65.5 hrc one I posted above.
    Mine came today. I haven't put it to the test yet, just cut up a couple of boxes after work. I really like it so far. I like the handle more than I thought I would. Obviously I can't say anything about edge retention yet, but I think it will be impressive.
    He just did the heat treat today, so I would assume it will be available in the next day or two.
    He will post it here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/McCullenKnives
     
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    Thanks @J. Pierce . Those sound perfect. Hopefully he is still making them when I am done saving my pennies.
     
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    His knives ain't cheap compared to many production knives. But they are dirt cheap compared to many other custom makers.
    He puts a lot of thought into geometry, and is always pushing the boundaries on heat treating.
    He's all about performance, not flashy show pieces.
    A very interesting maker, to me.

    I highly recommend trying one of his knives some day, if you can swing it.
     
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