M1 Carbine

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  1. R Stowe

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    I brought this home from my parents’ house. It was one of my first non- .22 or 410 guns. It has some family significance and it has seen a lot of plinking and time in the woods in my younger days. I know it’s not an ideal round but it’s a neat little carbine. I think I’ll take it to the range Saturday.

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    I searched but didn’t see any mentions of the M1 carbine. Any other fans out there?
     
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    I used to have a pretty nice one back in the late 80’s and still kick myself for selling. Cool round and compact rifle for plinking and to use as a general purpose truck gun.
     
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    Great gun. I’d love to find one
     
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    Paired with a Blackhawk in 30carbine and you’ve got a dandy combo!
     
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    I'm a fan. They are still relevant for a home defense piece, especially if loaded with expanding ammo. Several years ago Dr. Gary Robert did some gelatin testing, and Remington .30 Carbine 110 grain JSP performed similarly to 5.56mm M193 Ball. When he was on the NYPD Stakeout Squad, Jim Cirillo favored an M1 Carbine loaded with Winchester 110 grain JHSP ammo. According to him it put criminals down as well a 12 gauge slugs.

    I have a 1943 Underwood and a 1944 Rock Ola.
     
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    Oh yeah, I'm a fan. I always meant to get one when they were cheap, but kept getting talked out of it by those "in the know". When I finally came to my senses, the prices had risen enough that I bought a Mini 14 instead. I don't regret that, but I'd still like to have one - if I ever quit needing money for higher priorities. Or if I spy a deal too good to pass up. ;) It's a fine little rifle for close to intermediate defense.
     
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    not ideal by what standard ?? In my opinion is is an idea rifle for a few things and reasons . It has classic lines , military heritage, can be used for self defense, small game and target shooting. PLUS the best of all it has family & sentimental value , which to me trumps everything else

    I am a fan just dont own one due to cost of them now, but would like to have one ! my 300 BLK fills the role at this point
     
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    I've seen some decent groups printed at CMP matches using the M-1 carbine. My step-father brought his home from WW2, and I had the opportunity to shoot that some. It went to one of my step-brothers after he passed, as it should have.
     
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    BTW, if you want to mount a red dot the Ultimak mount that replaces the handguard is hard to beat. It does not require any permanent alterations to the gun, it just clamps around the barrel. I have one on my '43 Underwood with a Bushnell TRS-25 RDS on top. A micro RDS on an Ulltimak doesn't ruin the way the Carbine handles.
     
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    Not necessarily my opinion but some gun talk about fps versus comparable and available rounds. I agree with your points. It definitely has a spot for utility and the history this particular rifle carries.

    Very interesting. I'll check that out. Thanks for the pointer.
     
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    One of my all-time favorites, but sadly it has been illegal in NJ for a very long time.
     
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    Great piece of history! Sadly the reasonably priced surplus had dried up before my adult “gun buying” years ... a great gun to be collected and fun to shoot.
     
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    First rule of a gunfight...

    Also, that's a gorgeous rifle there. I would love to get my hands on one to take out to a range. I obviously take the side of the .30 carbine being enough for most situations
     
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    Even if you treat it like "only" a pistol caliber carbine... it's pretty stinkin' beefy in that role. Pushing 1000 ft-lbs at the muzzle is nearly double what .357 gets from a revolver (.357 carbines are another story).

    Great for new shooters and women all seem to love them too, so they're a gateway drug. I'll never sell either of mine.
     
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    Great point about the .357 and I like the compact size for tight woods and ease of carry. My wife likes it because the length of pull and overall weight works for her.
     
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    The M1 carbine - the first and original PDW.

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    Yeah the size thing is definitely underrated. .30 Carbine receivers are small, which makes the total length shorter than you'd think an 18" barreled firearm should be.
     
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    my dad carried at the Chosin Reservoir with the 1st Marine Div. seems all you hear is how the Marines hated the M1 carbine as under powered, unreliable, etc. Dad must have thought highly of it. he hunted deer vary effectively my hole life. when i was younger I'd buy him something bigger, newer, "better". he would use it for a bit and soon you would see him with his little M1 dragging a deer home.
     
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    I always wanted one, but never got one. Nice one you have lad. joe
     
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    Grand pa packed one as a Sea Bee as well.
     
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    PERFECT example of why it is an ideal gun. !! ideal to me has always been more than FPS, FPE and bullet selection !! ideal can mean many things!!
     
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    18DA333F-4396-4664-B774-DE1DC222DDA2.jpeg Mine is a Quality Hardware
     
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    I do agree on this as I think the round get short changed due to war stories, its not a magnum rifle but it has some potential !! buffalo bore has a 125 gr hard cast that is rated at 2100 fps and 1224 FPE. sounds like a 357 carbine round to me !!
     
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    Inland Arms made 10/1943. As accurate as the day it was made.
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    My brother owns a small 20 acre farm. He raises goats, rabbits, and chickens. Indiana has year round open season on coyote due to the damage, destruction and livestock loss the farmers experience from them. A couple times a year my brother will ask me to come out and help him thin the coyote population when he begins to have trouble with them. This Carbine is my go to for coyote. I love this rifle!
     
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    I didn't know that Ruger even made a revolver in that caliber. I may have to buy one now. There are several on Gunbroker in the $500 +/- range. Thanks for that! Dang'd enabler! :18::p
     
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    I'm a fan

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    Fireball out the front on every shot is a blast haha
     
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    I'd imagine that it is! Sound like it'd be fun to shoot. :)
     
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    This was what my parents gave me for my 12th Bday. (40 years ago next month.) I got my first deer with it the following month.
    (My 12th year was a very good year....also had my first girlfriend, played bass in my first rock band and stood up to and kicked the ass of a much larger kid who had been bullying me.)

    I still hunt with it on occasion...usually toward the end of the season when I'm tired of carrying the much heavier Model 73 Winchester.

    Mine was made by Plainfield Machine out of NJ. It has the metal vented shroud and no bayonet lug. I'd like to get a lighter carbon pistol grip stock for it too, but haven't yet. Mine is picky about the ammo. I had some cheap ball stuff given to me (a LOT of it) and the rifle would jam after only half ejecting a round. With quality boolits, it is a fantastic rifle. I had no idea that they had spiked at all in price. (Though the sentimental value of mine makes it too valuable to sell anyhow.) :)
     
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    Had one 20+ years ago, traded it off for something...can't recall what, should have kept it!
     
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    Is that a French MAS rifle behind the telescoping stocked Carbine?
     
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    i had one of the bb models................
     
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    My GPA carried one through the Ryukyus during ww2, he was a rifleman in the 305th RCT, 77th ID.

    He was issued a Garand but he had some bad experiences with it on Guam.The 77th didn't have lvt's at Guam, the dukw's and Higgins boats had trouble getting past coral shelfs there.My GPA was unloaded on coral 200 yards from shore, he swam with his Garand and full gear.When he got to shore he found out the rainy season was that time of the year, he said mud was up to his waist in places.

    On Leyte, after the Americal division relieved the 77th GPA came to the conclusion that he was going to get hit by another rainy season during his next campaign, so he bought a carbine in March of 45.He carried it in the Kerama Retto Islands, Ie Shima and Okinawa.
     
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    I have a modern production M1 Carbine that I pair up with an AMT AutoMag III pistol.
     
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    Always wanted one! Classic rifle.
     
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    it is, I picked it up for the action.
     
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    I had a Universal 30 carbine back in the late 80’s ta early 1990’s. We went shooting one time and my buddies father joined us. He was elated when I pulled out the carbine. Apparently he had carried one in Korea IIRC. He bought it from me a couple
    Days later when my buddy called telling me the story and how his day had called him asking him to ask me. He still has it today and he is in his late 90’s.

    I did like it and it worked and shot well. I dont think I ever shot cast thru it but did like the Speer 110HP’s and how well they blew up canned food. Back in the day when we went to the sand pits we would stop at the grocery and buy a box of canned food with no labels the store couldnt sell as food cause they did not know what it was. I distinctly remember green beans and refried beens all across the sand one trip!

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    I wasn't a fan for a long time. Always favored the M1 Garand instead. Then a friend let me shoot his and I became a believer. Such a handy little rifle that is a joy to shoot. I'd love to have one.
     
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    I'd like to have one. As I've probably mentioned on other M1C threads, I had an uncle with one BITD- I thought that was the coolest thing ever! Like Haunted, I also had the Crosman bb version. It cocked not by charging handle, but by compressing the barrel quite a ways. I was too little to just grab it, so at first I cocked it by putting my hand on the end of the barrel and leaning down with the butt on the ground. Safety third...:rolleyes:

    Every time I think about one of the new manufacture ones I'm put off by all the negative reviews. :33:
     
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    One of my boys has my last one. I carried one as my ‘car gun’ in college since it was easier to do legally than a pistol. It came in handy with some drunks one night too. :14:

    I bet a 30 carbine revolver would be qualified as an ‘eargersplitten Loudenboomer’. :p
     
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    Haha, I remember cocking this pellet rifle my cousin had the same way. It was a beast for a couple of little kids.

    This one is pretty reliable as memory serves. I need to figure out the date on it.
     
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    I have had people ignore the .50 BMG rifle being fired at the other end of the outdoor range to come and check out the AMT AutoMag III .30 Carbine pistol being fired by me. That Aug. day in AZ was clear and sunny and you could still see about a 10' - 15' muzzle blast with each shot! :18::dblthumb:
     
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    Kind of a handy/friendly gun P2240115.JPG
     
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    All nice, especially the bottom Remington. What a beauty. IER scope, three point sling and all. Somewhere Cooper is smiling.
     
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    nice little carbine. its a later universal and some aftermarket items designed for the M1 may not work with it. the universals of that generation have some internal differences. i have one with a nice tiger striped stock, looks to be the same era made gun as yours. here is some good reading on them.

    http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_universal.html
     
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    Thanks for the link. You're correct it's a universal, and I've noticed that some sites note their products do, or do not, work with the universals.
     
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    you are welcome. i really enjoy mine. it has the wood hand guard and i bought a metal one but the fit was terrible so i took it off. i do have the same mag pouch set up as yours. i also found mine likes universal mags better. i have not found a 30 round one yet that will cycle properly in it however.
     
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    M1 Carbine and AMT AutoMag III.jpg

    Mine is an Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine, Pistol is an AutoMag III .30 Carbine. The M1 has a Choate Side Folding Stock, and a Red dot sight and an over the shoulder sling the camo bag is a SAW Mag pouch and holds 10 thirty round M1 carbine mags and 2 twenty round mags in the side pockets!
     
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