Magnetic pole shift?

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  1. Akela

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    What is GPS?
    When you see the north pole go by your house, let me know. I’ll get my hat.
     
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    This could be intriguing. I must research further... Thanks for sharing.
     
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    I wonder if all the road construction detours are going to get worse. ;)
     
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    Must be why all my compass’s only point to each other......
     
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    Unless you live in the arctic, the current shift shouldn't really effect your compass readings. I guess the molten iron flow under the earth's crust is larger stronger under Siberia. Interesting stuff.
     
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    Based on the geologic record, we're overdue for a polar magnetic reversal. The transition period will probably take longer than a person's lifetime (or ten), and could make things interesting. ;)
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    There’s the problem. They drug that magnetometer over the mid atlantic ridge and punctured it, allowing the molten iron to be diverted to China for making more stuff. Sigh...
     
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    Strange happenings underground.
    I personally am more than a little weirded out.
     
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    Read something the other day about that, interesting for sure, none to worried about most of my navigational needs, the systems all around should be updated and they'll be fine.
     
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    Well in few short years there gonna be able to put your soul in a robot and you will survive not sure about the PSK you gonna need probably included.

    But I think me and Mr. Whales gonna finish are coffee poke the fire so if ya going get to going boy .
     
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    Probably due to the government shut-down. Declination will return to normal once the government is back up and running as efficiently as it had.
     
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    i'm not ignorant on this stuff. can you elaborate?
     
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    Not really; when/if things progress that far, it'd only be a copy. And that copy won't last forever, nor will any copy of the copy of the copy.

    There's no cheating death.
     
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    im so sorry its just my great magnetic personality ..........i cant help it
     
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    Does this mean Polaris and Sigma Octanis are going to change positions also?
     
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    When the sun rises, I'll check mine against it...
     
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    Aliens?
     
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    Ok, so if the poles reverse, does that imply at some point in time between the two extremes ( + or -) there will be no polarity?
     
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    good question.

    what happens to the magnetosphere? How much does it weaken? Will cosmic radiation be increased significantly? Will we have to walk around with extra protection?
     
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    Tell the givt to shut down HAARP up in AK.
     
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    @Pilot they use to call them gods. And people invented words like wildness to make you scared of the woods another slang term that made it okay cut the forest down. And then a person along time after that gave his opinion, cause he new more then people that lived it gave the alien name.
     
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    trump did it ... :) :) :)
     
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    We're gonna need a bigger wall.
     
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    Almost certainly no. It would be a slow ( thinks multiple thousands of years ) process , but be more like turning a bar magnet 180 degrees . Polarity is still there, just pointing in different directions as it rotates . Not an exact parallel to reality , but close enough to understand that there wouldn’t be a point of no polarity .

    The biggest possible danger besides navigation issues , in animals as well that rely on the magnetic field , will be exposure to harmful rays from outer space because the field weakens significantly as it flips . There is debate on how much danger , if any , there would be from this , but there isn’t a record of extinctions from previous flips . Man was around for the last one about 800,000 years ago without any knowledge or ability to protect themselves during it and we are here now .
     
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    Can we blame CERN for the shifting polls ?
     
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    thanks for the info! Suppose it happens fast and suppose there's more radiation. Is the simple solution just UV blocking long-sleeve/pants clothing and hats or more/better sunscreen?
     
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    I think the “fast” end of the scale for this is 1000 years, the slow end 10,000 . What we are seeing now is probably the beginning of the shift, and the pole will just keep moving . At some point the field gets real screwy , I’m not sure if this happens when it gets more to an east/west alignment and then maybe being sort of at 90 degrees to the earths rotation that adds to the jumbled effect of the field .

    But there is no past fossil record indicating it is anything for us to worry about past the directional/ navigation aspect .
     
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    I thought the Myan's told us it was all going to happen in a single second, in 2012! I invested alot of time and energy building my ark! I was extremely disappointed.
     
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    yes, but now you have an ark!
     
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    Nope, burned it out of frustration. Really wanted to see the mountains become ocean and the ocean become mountains.
     
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    You can always rotate your navigational charts in conjunction with the shift changes.
     
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    Very thankful I didn't buy that new compass. Think I'll wait till this all settles down.
     
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    The North Star will henceforth be known as, "that other star".
     
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    Or the Star formerly known as North?
     
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    Since the earth is flat it spins off balance. Just wait until the cat gets ahold of it. :rolleyes:
     
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    I guess I'm going to wander around aimlessly forever, I can't stand on my head anymore to read my compass. joe
     
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    It will eventually anyway :). The earth actually wobbles like a top losing its spin , so true north points in a slow circle in the sky that takes 26,000 yrs to complete. 6000 yrs ago the North Star was a different star called Thuban and what we now call the North Star was just a bright star named Phoenice. In 12,000 yrs the North Star will be the current star Vega, and our North Star will presumably revert to Phoenice. In 26,000 yrs Phoenice will be the North Star again.

    The universe is cool . :)
     
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    I quite honestly don't find any magic in this phenomenon. Stuff like this has been happening since the beginning, people did fine before they knew of any weird happenings, before compasses or electronics.
     
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    Yeah, no problems except for the effects of mass coronal ejections on all of our electronics in satellites, cars, phones, medical equipment......
     
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    Okay with me. We kinda need a reset anyway.
     
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    Just hold your compas upside down and look up!
     
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    Does that mean that Santa's got to move?
     
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    Naw, Santa lives at true North Pole , not magnetic North Pole . The two are not the same .
     
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    Those fossils were consumed by the volcanic eruptions. ;)
     
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    That is true; however, the problem is the reaction from the sheep.

    this does seem like a very reasonable concern. If out magnetic shield is significantly weakened, then it would take a less strong CME EMP to disable us. the one that took down the Quebec grid for a day in 1989 might wreck the planet with a weak shield
     
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    I got enough to worry over.
     
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