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  1. PauliWalli

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    Are there any out there that are familiar with this product ? I’m looking at the kit he offers.

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    Well .......... I pulled the trigger on the kit that Mead offers. Super nice guy, very helpful. Downside is I have a 14 week wait ! Guess it gives me time to look at arm guards, quivers, etc.

    Any input on the above is surely welcome !
     
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    Neat site. I feel like you'd need a thumbring to shoot them properly.
     
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    I just learned about the thumb-rings last night ...... neat idea.

    Anyone use one ?
     
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    those horse bows are nice, and you can shoot them with a thumb ring, but you have to be comfortable doing so. And, the bow typically has to be tillered for thumb ring to. A thumb ring will allow you to draw the bow farther, even naturally I think it adds an inch or so to your draw (you can tailor this of course). Also, the string twist is different with a thumb ring, so you typically have to put the arrow on the other side of the rest from what a split finger/western type shooter would. But, those bows look like good ones to me, and so long as you figure out how to shoot with a thumb ring or even just shoot split finger, I think they would fling a pointy stick just fine.
     
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    I assumed this was so, and now I realize it was nothing more than an assumption - is there a corollary between the nock-to-nock length of the bow and its propensity to be shot with a thumb ring? If the bow is, say, 40" n-t-n, I would think there wouldn't be enough room on the string (at full draw) for three fingers or even two below the arrow nock - the angle would be too acute. Sort of the same way compound shooters have gone to triggers?

    And 'tillered for a thumb ring' I'm assuming (again) means that there's a more even tiller between top and bottom limb for exactly that reason?
     
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    Shorter bows nock-to-nock can be hard on the fingers, causing 'finger pinch'. It can indeed be more severe with longer draws. I have a Bear SuperMag that is 48 inches long unstrung, strung it's a super compact little thing. And, although it will accomodate a draw of about 29", it starts to get painful for split finger shooters at 28". I shoot it with a 27" draw without much concern, but I also have tiny baby hands.

    However, and please correct me if I'm wrong, as I don't shoot the horse bow styles nor do I shoot with a thumb ring, but as I understand it the siyahs (the stiff non-bending tips on those style bows) help with this some and change the string angle so you can get a longer draw with a shorter bow. And, with the thumb ring, you have much less of the string to contend with, almost like with a trigger as you indicated.

    'Tillered for a thumb ring' means (to me) that the bow has a more even tiller as you stated, but also can be drawn farther without stacking. Most of the guys I have seen or read about that use thumb ring draw back to around 30 inches or so, they anchor back farther on their face. I saw a couple guys shooting that way that would anchor with the knuckle of their thumb touching their earlobe. Was a very long draw with such a short bow.
     
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    I only looked briefly, but the kit looks pretty good to me; I'll be curious to hear how it goes putting it together. Somehow I imagine he's designing these primarily for a Mediterranean style release...thumb grip doesn't seem to be all that common in the US.
     
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    @OrienM you are correct. I emailed Dave and he said his bows are set up for Mediterranean style.
     
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    As I wait for my bow to be built, I thought it would be nice to see the quiver setups that you use in the field and which attachment system you prefer and why. I’m going to build my quiver but need a little insight first.

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    Check out Native Americans "Plains Quivers". They are appropriate for the bows you are looking at. I hope you give us some feed back on your bow when you put a few dozen arrows thru it ! Enjoy
     
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    I've got one of his horse bows. Dave is a super nice guy, good customer service. My bow hasn't been used very much, too much else on the go. The limbs are intentionally asymmetric in their tiller, but my lower limb was really a bit too stiff. I 'exercised' that limb quite a bit before it balanced to where I felt it was ok to shoot it, but it seemed to fall into place alright, so I don't think I'll have to do any tillering, but we'll see where it sits when I get around to stringing it again. Just something to be aware of when you are first setting up that bow. I think if you pay attention to Dave's advice and check out his U-tube channel you'll be in good shape. They are alive, they notice the weather and humidity changes a bit, or seem to, even with a varnish / sealant..but I like that kind of thing, you have to pay attention and listen to it a little bit.
    I've shot with both mediterranian and thumb release, I haven't committed to one system or the other yet... I'm working on mounted archery and using some unconventional anchors that aren't really anchors, so the potential increase in draw length isn't so much of an issue.
     
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    How is the tiller different with the different styles of release?
     
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    I think the only difference is a potentially longer draw length if you switch from three fingers to thumb...the bow needs to be ok with that. You can adjust your anchor point so your draw stays the same. You can try out a thumb release just with your bare thumb, or make a simple leather pad. Some ring styles have a little hook to them that feels a bit different.
     
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    Well ......... my Mead Bamboo Longbow arrived today !! I had just enough time over lunch to rescue it off the front porch with the threat of rain looming, open it a take a few pics. I’ll probably get started this evening and will update with assembly pics.

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    Nice! I've been looking at this kit, so it'll be nice to see someone's experience before I purchase. Keep the photos and review comin! ;)
     
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    Yes, please keep us updated.
     
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    I’ve also been curious about his kits. I’m looking forward to following this thread.
     
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    Anything happening with the kit?
     
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    Yes, and no. I’ve got the siahs (sp?) sanded and have been deciding on possible stain colors for the limbs, plus I’ve been preoccupied with other issues. I’m hoping to get it assembled this weekend. Thanks for the inquiry!!
     
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    Here’s the first siah after hot gluing.
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    Here’s the start of siah B
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    Here’s the limbs being glued to the handle.
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    Only used a little more than a half stick of the two provided.
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    The squeeze out remains from the hot glue
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    Did not take long at all to put together. I was amazed at the ease of the project, so far !!

    Next step is applying the fiberglass-like tape over all the glued seams and let it cure overnight.
     
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    Being too lazy to visit the makers sight and read about this kit, I thought the thing was held together with ONLY hot glue, and was starting to panic a little lol!
     
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    Haha ....... yeah, that would be good reason to panic. He’s changed the second step from a nylon string wrap to the fiber tape and I’m glad he did. I’d rather have it over-built than under.
     
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    Here’s the final step, before pimping it out. I’ll sand the tape first and then on to the personalization process. Sorry for no video. Don’t have a decent setup yet for it.

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    Bit late to the party, but I've had the pleasure of talking to Dave about both his horsebows and composite bows and they'll not disappoint you (I don't own any). You can shoot them 3 finger btw no problem. I use the thumb draw and you can shoot off the Mediterranean (normal) side, but technically it should be done from the right side. Won't make any difference in accuracy (look up archery tournaments in Mongolia with composite e bows) , just has some advantages being able to clear the bow handle from the arrow's flight path upon release and other stuff.
     
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    I was able to get 3 coats of stain on today. I may do one more, still haven’t decided. B99F81B4-BB4E-40FB-8FE6-8CF7DB394A3F.jpeg E34AB5C4-3F99-432E-A381-D19F60466AB3.jpeg 38C9516E-6DB2-47E6-9213-FEAE70E70C9F.jpeg 34F6C46D-E0FC-40B6-AA53-46D7471A595F.jpeg
     
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    I have been thinking of one for awhile but have not pulled the trigger; let us know how it works out.
     
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    The Red Corn Snake skin was successful and I believe it turned out nicely. My camera doesn’t show the colors in a true way and it really does look better in person. I’m leaving it to cure until tomorrow after work and then I’ll carefully cut off the excess skin and sand the edges, touch up the stain, decide on a color for the siahs and wrap areas and hopefully be ready for final finish coats.

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    I am very interested in this bow. Do you have any estimate about how well the limbs hold up over time?
     
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    That looks amazing, I'm very interested to learn how you like it.

    Nice work!
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    My friend I am very biased towards longbows and flatbows,just personal preference, but what you’ve put together there is quite impressive sir. I’m actually anxious to hear a report on how well it shoots. I have a friend here in Georgia named Jaap Kopperdreyer that builds composite/horn horse bows and Yumi (offset Japanese longbow). He holds a horse bow seminar every spring on his bamboo plantation. I was fortunate enough to be invited as a spectator this past spring. Definitely worth checking out.
     
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    Good question ........ I’d go to meadlongbows.com and check out his FAQ’s , he may have something there. I did see one of his videos where he said he’s still using his first bow which is approximately 5 years. You can also send him an email. He’s a good guy and he loves to share his passion.
     
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    I would love to be part of a class like that. Some day !! I will check out that bow maker.
     
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    You have done a fine job on this!
     
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    Thank you for the kind words. It’s appreciated. Here’s the last pics you’ll see with it unfinished.
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    Here’s the finished product. Hope y’all like it. It sure was a fun project. Hopefully I’ll have time to get outside and shoot it this week.

    Thank you for your encouragement and support.

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    Beautiful job!
    Looking forward to a shooting report!
     
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    Awesome!
     
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    Awesome job. How does it shoot? What lb at what drawl length shooting what length, weight, spine arrow at what fps if wou can say. I'm very interested in getting one and would appreciate feedback from someone not affiliated with the company. Yould you consider it accurate \ consistent out to xx yards? Thanks
     
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    The cool factor is over the top. :)

    Why does it have those holes through the sciyahs?
     
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    Weight reduction I think
     
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    Makes sense.
     
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    I believe that to be true, plus maybe a little visual interest as well.
     
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    Thank you Greg (and everyone else), for the responses of support.

    I haven't shot it yet, due to bad weather and schedule/travel conflicts. I asked Dave to build a 45# at 29", so I'm assuming that's what I have ......... and all your other questions zipped over my head like a rocket. I had him build 3 bamboo arrows that are matched to my spec's on the bow.

    I'm 58, left handed and have never owned a bow before now. I've had a few archery buddies thru the years, but my LH handicap kept me from interaction with the sport. I'm more than willing to download everything I can from my experiences at shooting, but just know, this is BETA 1/Ground Zero for me, so it may be fairly basic.

    Mark
     
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