Micro Cord

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  1. Cro

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    I've been looking for something smaller than paracord, easier to work with than bank line, strong and economical, I found it in Micro cord.

    1.12mm and 100# test, not as stiff as some 1.8mm types. Very easy to handle and doesn't bind badly on itself when braiding, a problem I tend to have with bank line, along with the knotting up when you don't want it to. Micro cord slips over itself easily but holds well when you want it to.

    I braided a 20' ridge line and was quite pleased with the lack of bulk that the same size in paracord would be.

    The ridge line I braided came out a very small and light package that held my 225 pounds just fine. I put it over a stout limb and hung from it completely off the ground. It does stretch some but once I had the stretch out it was perfect.

    Beyond the braided and 2 strand twist uses it would be great for zipper pull replacements, dummy cords, accessory cords and so on. I like this stuff much more than bank line.

    Micro Cord, made in the USA and soon to be available through Bushcraft Outfitters.


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    Perfect timing!

    I was looking for some more dummy cord and or replacement cordage for my kit. I found some kevlar kite cord that is 100lb test. It works but it's more like braided fishing line. Just a little too small to mess with. It will hold up a shelter fine but hard to work with.

    Is this cord solid or does it have inner strands like 550?


    I'll wait till Guy gets it in to order some.
     
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    I saw those photos in the Otzi knife thread and was wondering what kind of cord that was. It looks good and I will have to get some once Guy has it in stock.

    I like Atwood cordage. I have some 3/32 Tactical cord. It has 4 inner strands and the sheath is a smaller diameter so it stays tight to the core. (if that makes sense).
     
  4. Cro

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    It is braided but no inner strands, I think this makes it very flexible while still very strong.

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    This stuff is great. I ordered some off amazon a while back and used it for a few small projects. Works good for tarp guy lines too.
     
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    great to hear- Atwood makes a Nano Cord (.75mm x 300 ft.) as well- I have used the Micro cord (1.18mm x 125 ft. ) as a "poor mans" Tenkara/ Fly line- in Neon yellow.
    It seems to float fairly well.


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    I saw that nano cord stuff and want to try it, looks very promising for a lot of things. I like the color options available too. Good stuff.
     
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    Cro, any chance of you putting up a comparison shot of a strand of 550 next to the new stuff?
     
  10. Cro

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    Here ya go.

    Standard 550 vs Micro Cord vs Micro Cord braided.

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    Micro Cord and Atwoods 3/32" tactical with four strand inner core, #275 test and a 1.8mm reflective strand.

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    Comparison between my old cotton rope ridge line and the Micro Cord version, both are 20' in length.

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    Micro Cord vs #36 Bank Line.

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    Looks like you could break down that braid too if you wanted some thinner material to work with no?
     
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    I imagine so, it would be very thin and gossamer like, the weave is tight and it would take some work. It is woven in such a way that it doesn't seem to want to unravel the way 550 would.
     
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    damn...looks like good stuff, thanks!
     
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    Thanks for the post, Croatoan !!

    I'm definitely going to pick up some of this cord. :dblthumb:

    _Andre
     
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    Good write up. Have been looking for a smaller cord myself, and this looks like it will fit the bill nicely.

    Man...my wallet despises this site! ;)
     
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    Great write up and photos! I added this stuff to my gear needed list!
    Thanks for sharing!
     
  17. Cro

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    You betcha, sometimes hard to get excited over something seemingly so trivial but after playing with it and seeing what it can do I'm very impressed. It's highly likely I'm replacing paracord with this stuff. It's strong enough, super small package, and lightness of weight all add up to carrying more of it than paracord with nearly the same capabilities.

    In a Camel Snus tin you can fit a 20' braided ridge line for example, or probably way more than 100' non braided.

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    That's a winner, need to get some.
     
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    Went to the site, check the stuff nice. All I see is micro cord in the 1.18 mm . Brother Cro you are using 1.12 mm??
     
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    My spool is labeled 1.12mm and I didn't see it on their site either, I'm guessing this might be an early spool and they changed to 1.18mm for the 'Micro Cord' run.
     
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    Do you think it will work has well?
     
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    Thanks for sharing. Will definitely be ordering some.
     
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    I really appreciate this review. In fact, I wish there were more reviews on cordage. I found this cordage and thought it looked great all around. This review makes it look better than it ever has! I wish I could find it locally.

    As I looked around for a lightweight solution for my tarp, I found this stuff. I ordered a 4000' roll of 0.9mm cordage for $12 shipped. It'll last me forever. It's a super tight braid. I use it for dummy cording, zipper pulls, and tarp tie-outs. In fact, I use it for the ridgeline on my tarp! No problems yet! Knots hold, but come out pretty easily. If I were to do it again, I'd probably move up to the 1.4mm stuff.

    Just offering alternatives...

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    Nice... i've been using braided 3/16" braided white nylon cord for awhile... will check this out... thanks for posting.
     
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    I've been using #18 200 lb test braided mason line, well, forever basically. Great cordage. Is it wrong to be solely intrigued by this new micro braid based on color? LOL!!! I too went and visited their site found a very nice price on 7/16" Static Line which I've been meaning to buy for quite some time.....I don't think I'll be carrying it in my pack but nice to have in the car....My wife thinks I'm nutz, she knows I have a very strong fear of heights.....however I really want to learn how to rappell I don't think it's that I want to do it to conquer my fears, it's just that I really want to do it and some how it just doesn't scare me!
     
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    Thanks, may have to check this out.
    I have been using 1.75 mm Lashit, 400lb Dyneema
    Make single strand ridge lines that will support my weight, can be spliced the same as Amsteel.
    More spendy that the Micro Cord though.
     
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    Added to the wishlist. I have barely any paracord and was thinking of stocking up, so this looks like a welcome alternative.
     
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    Thank you Croatoan. Just ordered 5 spools. Including 1 in glow in the dark. I'm thinking that will make some dandy tarp tie outs.
     
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    Looks like good stuff. I'm a cordage junkie.
    I've been using the "handy hundred" stuff for a while and also highly recommend it.
    http://rwrope.com/knot-tyers/twine-and-cord/handy-hundred-cord.html
    I have some that has been outside for nearly ten years as a gate latch pull on several gates, and shows nearly no sign of degradation. Impressive. I think it's polyester, not nylon, but can't confirm.
     
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    Cordage, the thinking man's duct tape.
    :)
     
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    Could you show a close up of that P cord end? I copied your idea tonight and did a 20 foot line too. Holy crap my fingers were wore out after I was done. I started it out like I think you did, left a couple inches of loose ends then looped it over and braided in the loose ends to form a loop. The stuff is so small though that I couldn't figure out a good way to finish the end of it. I just tied the end off in a figure 8 and melted the end back. It's alright but I'd really like a loop in both ends. Any ideas on a good way to finish it off with a looped end. I don't tie flies so I don't really have a set up to weave stuff this small back into itself.
     
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    is it wrong that I'm getting excited about cord? :rolleyes:

    anyway, Croatoan, why do you prefer a braided micro Cord instead of simply a larger diameter unbraided cord?..
     
  35. Cro

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    Lack of bulk, it comes out quite strong and takes less space than a single strand of paracord of the same length.

    While this version of a braided ridge line doesn't offer the greater strength of a ridge line made of paracord, the point to a braided ridge line is the increased strength over a single strand of paracord of the same length while not increase bulk overmuch.

    The better answer is found here, supplied by the real deal.
     
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    Tagged for future reference.
     
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    If you have done a standard 3-plait braid, just make an eye splice. Make the loop size you want then weave the three strands back down the braid following the braid pattern.

    I am not sure if this stuff is too slippery to hold the weight however, so I would recommend many passes back down the braid and test it well before use.

    This is the typical three strand twist splice done in rope...similar following a braid back.

    http://www.animatedknots.com/splice/
     
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    it doesn't seem to slippery to hold the braid. The problem is the size. Trying to braid it back into itself is TOUGH due to it's thin size. I guess this is a good excuse for me to get into fly tieing though. You'd really need the holder and magnifying equipment.
     
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    Looks like good stuff. Calafia has some that is even thinner and I'd never seen it before. I'm going to grab a spool from BCO.
     
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    You could probably use heavy blunt needles to do it. Don't really need to tie a big knot either just melt it and crimp so it doesn't pull through the eye.
     
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    Yup, that is exactly what I would do. Even a thin piece of plastic tubing melted on the end (like the tube on a spray can of WD-40) would work as a needle.

    I would likely do about 10 passes back down the braid and hope it held.
     
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    GREAT idea. I think I've got a few of those tubes laying around that I'll have to try. Thanks.
     
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    Some shrink tubing on the ends heated up to stiffen the tags would likely work too...sort of making a self-needle.

    Just be sure the end of the tube or shrink tubing is blunt so as to not try and dig into the existing braided material.

    If you wanted to get real fancy you could do the eye-splice braid-back then bring the tag ends out of the cord and make a turks head of three passes...that would never pull back out.
     
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    I'd be interested in seeing a side by side size difference between this stuff & Zing-it. At 1.75mm Zing-it will do 400# I believe. Not that one would need that for a tarp mind you. Just curiosity I guess.

    I know the term pliable isn't exactly the word I'm looking for as far as material make up, but the word I'd like isn't coming to me. I know Zing-it / Lash-it are a bit more stiff like Amsteel. Does the feel of this micro cord have more the feel of paracord?
     
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    I see. thanks for the explanation. I have a roll of 2mm line that was too nice to use up like bank line but not strong enough for 550 cord uses. I think I just found a use...:dblthumb:
     
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    Absolutely no offense intended, but I don't get the braided ridge line thing. Is there something I'm not privy to at work here? I understand if all you have is cordage too light for the task (braiding increases strength) and you want to used what is on hand. I understand the need for basic braiding, splicing, weaving, twisting, etc. as a skillset. I don't understand the utility (other than being able to break down the weave into base strands) in a braided ridge line. With the wealth of cordage available out there, why would one not simply choose the line with the properties desired and use a single strand? For instance, Zing-It and some other sub 2mm lines are far stronger, lighter and thinner than braided micro cord. Just looking for the epiphany here if there is one.
     
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    I don't have experience with a lot of cord types and some are to expensive for me to justify buying.

    I do know from experience that a three strand weave of standard P cord will not stretch as much as a single strand when being cranked down with a truckers hitch.

    Don't know exactly why that is ... because they support each other ... friction ... not sure but the weave seems to take out most of the stretch and that's why I do it.
     
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    I tried searching but was not successful - Does anyone have instruction on how to make a braided ridge line? More concerned with how to work the beginning and ending as the actual braiding
    of 3 strands seems pretty self-explanatory.
     
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    Terry's video from Bushclass: YouTube - Braiding an Eye Into 550 Cord
     
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    The bushclass braiding lesson has a link to one of Terry's videos for a how to. Here's the vid:

    [video=youtube;mbYx0j8EoLg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbYx0j8EoLg[/video]


    Also there is a ridge line elective: http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showthread.php/31039-%28E%29-Make-a-Ridge-Line-for-Your-Shelter-Kit?p=515786#post515786


    To finish the end opposite the splice, you'll want to fix the cords together somehow (knot, whipping, melted, shrink tubing, etc.). I used a whipping of inner paracord on the one I made (not out of the stuff in this thread, though).


    EDIT: I'm getting a little slow on the keyboard, lol. mab beat me to it.
     
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