Modern lock blade for the outdoors

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  1. gm42

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    Hey Guys,

    I have been a traditional knife fan for a long time. Therefore, I have a good size collection of Case and I have a few GEC knives. I would like to tryout a modern lock blade knife that costs under $150 for Bushcraft, hunting and other outdoor use. What do you like and what steel do you like?

    Thanks,

    Geoff
     
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    Maybe a lockback folder made by Spyderco or Cold Steel?

    Depends on the size and weight of knife you want.
     
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    I used my Griptillian for food prep, fishing, bushcraft, carpentry work, letter opening, all sorts of stuff.
     
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    The Hogue Ritter Mk1-G2 equipped with M390 would be good choice. Only $153.


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    A Cold Steel Folder for the best Lock strength. Lots and lots of models with premium steels to choose from.

    A CRKT Homefront may be a good choice as well.
    Being able to very quickly dissemble your knife out in the field for cleaning/maintenance appeals to many.

    Benchmade is a good choice as well. They have folding models that appeal to the outdoorsman.
    The Axis Lock is strong & reliable.

    A Spyderco Paramilitary 2 may be a good choice for an all around light use camp knife. Works well with food prep and in a pinch can knock out some feather sticks!
     
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    Less than $100 for the Buck Momentum.

    CPM S30V blade, Paul Bos heat treatment, Buck’s ASAP flipper/assist opening mechanism, anodized aluminum handles with good grip.

    Great knife.

    https://www.bladehq.com/item--Buck-Momentum-Spring-Assisted-Knife--27485

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    Personally I use a fixed-blade for heavy work and if it’s fine/detailed work I use the blade on my Leatherman.
     
  8. CoolBreeze135

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    Benchmade and Spyderco are hard to beat. It’s hard to make specific suggestions, as it kinda depends what specs you are looking for.

    Do you like thicker handles that are more comfortable to use, or thinner handles that are more comfortable to carry in pocket? Do you like 3” blades? 3.5”? 4”? Do you like thumb studs for opening? Index finger flippers?

    I’m a huge fan of powdered steels. Honestly, they are all pretty good. S35VN and S30V are both solid choices that are pretty widely available in that price range. There are definitely higher-performing options in that price range too, but every knife is a compromise of features.
     
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    Look at the Steel Will Gekko. It is extremely comfortable in the hand. Really a work of art. Mine is the full size in M390 steel. Much more comfortable than my Spyderco Manix 2 or Domino.
     
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    I have to second the Griptilian. I got this one for $95. CPM s30v, and I'm left handed so the axis lock and spidie hole opening make this version truly abidexterous. It's light to carry and the handle is very comfortable and ergonomic.
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    I think you would be very happy with the Buck 110 Slim Pro.

    Pocket clip, very lightweight, tight lock up, micarta covers, and S30V steel.

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    Keep them coming! Thanks!

    I am looking for a blade 3.25" to 4.5". The handle must be comfortable for long and hard use. I want a knife that is an all-rounder for food, game and fire prep. It will accompany my fixed blade of choice with hatchet and bow saw. If I am going modern, I might as well try a super steel. My traditional knives are 1095 so I want to look beyond that with the latest technology. I use diamond stones and can do a pretty good job hand sharpening.

    Thanks,

    Geoff
     
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    Steel Will Gekko in m390
    Spyderco Manix 2 in M4
    Spyderco Domino in CTS XHP
    Spyderco Native 5 lightweight in S35VN
    Manly Comrade in S90V
    Opinel No 8 custom in M2 HSS.

    Any of these can fill the role. The Gekko just stands out in quality and comfort.
     
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    Benchmade Freek would probably be my single choice for a modern woods pocket knife. It has an incredibly comfortable handle, with about a 3.6” blade. The standard version is S30V, but they make a version in M4 as well.

    I would also suggest the Cold Steel Ultimate Hunter, Benchmade Griptilian, Spyderco Shaman, Spyderco Manix 2, Spyderco Gayle Bradley 2
     
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    This is what I was going to say... for sub $20, it's definitely worth a shot. I just got an Opinel within the last month and so far, I like it a lot for what it is. I have become spoiled by my assisted opening pocket knives. Can't hardly have an everyday knife that's not assisted these days. But they're all liner lock knives, so not very robust compared to a real lock back knife.
     
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    I’ve used the spyderco paramilitary 2 for a long time. I like that the compression lock lets you easily open and close it one handed.
     
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    Benchmade Griptilian
     
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    Spyderco's Delica is good and the Para 3 :) I particularly like the Para 1 ... but that one gone now.

    Manly do good ones too

    Less affordably, there are Sebenzas :lol:
     
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    The cold steel ultimate hunter looks pretty good.

    I recently placed an order for the new crimson terminus xr with intent on carrying it outdoors. D2 blade steel and I like the overall look of the knife.
     
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    I'll second this one. Picked one up this spring and it is very good folder in my opinion for what it's worth. Been carrying it everyday that I carry a larger locking folder.
     
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    Anything Benchmade with the Axis lock.

    My EDC is the Benchmade 730S "Ares". Similar to a full sized Griptilian but with G10 scales. I like it but a griptilian is more comfortable in hand.

    TBH I leave it at home if I have a fixed blade knife and carry either a neck knife or SAK Walker instead.
     
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    For a larger knife with an excellent lock, the Cold Steel Recon 1 spear point in S35VN ($80+/-) is a solid choice. The Spyderco Paramilitary 2 in S110v ($165+/-) is new to my inventory, so I don't have a ton of use with it yet, but it is really comfortable, and the compression lock is neat. But, if lock strength is a priority, Cold Steel's Triad lock is tough to beat IMO. Good luck with your search!
     
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    That Gekko is slick if you could spring the $247.....mwahahaha
     
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    I'll suggest the Emerson A-100 (IMO the best folding knife for BC) or CQC-7AW.

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    I have 'a few' folders. If I was going to use one in lieu of a fixed blade, it would be this one. All of my other folders have been sent to time out............ superb knife.
     
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    +1 on PM2 in S30v. Great performance and still sharpenable.
     
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    fullsizeoutput_24d.jpeg I like Spyderco or Benchmade but I have ZT and others. It is just what do I feel like carrying for the day. What size are you looking for?
     
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    Hogue Ritter MK1-G2.
    Given the parameters you listed, this would be my first choice by a huge margin.
     
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    I’ll definitey be picking up that Ritter mk1 sometime this year. I missed out on the griptillian version.
     
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    My brother got me a Tassie Tiger lock back for Christmas. It has G10 scales and D2 steel. I had never heard of them and I still haven’t seen any “write ups”. I am bad for babying new stuff and it offended my brother. He made it clear that he had bought it for me to use. I carry it daily. I am a dyed in the wool hillbilly and knives see hard use everyday. The TT has ball bearings for the action and it cleans easily. Sharpens easily and holds an edge. I did have to loc-tite the screws in the pocket clip.
     
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    That makes two of us.
    The Hogue Ritter and a Spydie Salt are the only two folders on my list.
    At the moment....
     
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    For sure. Not really a pocket knife and they do come with a sheath.
    But if I had a single blade folder for the woods, this would be the one.
     
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    I consider a folder big when I don't feel it is comfortable in the pocket and I have to carry it in a sheath.
     
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    I have the BM version of the mini Ritter and while I think it's great, the Hogue is a much better knife.
     
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    I have Benchmade's large Ritter, it's my EDC for 5 days a week, but I've modded it to the point that it's barely recognizable so I don't really have a fair comparison.
    That being said, hearing your comparison just increases my desire for the Hogue.
     
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    Casstrom Lock back is also on my list. Looks like a good companion knife for camping.
     
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    Lot of good choices. I favor BM and the Griptilian in S30V for light weight. Since the OP mentioned bushcraft though I'd say Buck 110 or 112 in S30V. Available in clip or drop point, customizable (beware the Buck Custom site) and feel better in my grip than any other folder. A bit heavier, true, but rock solid, can handle about anything and has the classic thing going for it as well.
     
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    So far
    I like my 110 Slim Pro, nice and light and good steel, just a bit too big, been using it as my new 112 Slim Pro's clip has come undone. Of the two, the 112 calls to be used more, smaller blade.
    As a secondary choice, I like my Manly Peak (lockback) in D2 and my Comrades (slip joints) in D2 and CPM154. The orange handled one in the first pic and the black handled one in the second pic.
     
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    One thing I really like about the Hogue Ritter Mk1 is the open spine for ease of cleaning after you process game.

    I saw some videos on this knife. A few of the questioned whether they actually obtained 61 to 62 Rockwell hardness on the M390. Does anyone know the outcome of any testing?

    Thanks,

    Geoff
     
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    I would like to emphasize that HRC is only one component of what makes a good knife. M390 performs perfectly fine at 58 or above- but it is just one facet of many. Cutting geometry, overall blade shape, ergonomics, and edge finish all factor into the equation equally if not more in the case of the first three especially.

    As for me, I love m390 for what you would use a folding knife for. I have been carrying a Hinderer xm-18 in m390 since January with no complaints- but that is a very expensive knife and I don't recommend it often as a result. However I do recommend m390. But really, picking a steel to fit your needs is usually the way to go. If you live in salty areas, something like LC 200N is a direct upgrade from H1 in terms of corrosion resistance. Typically toughness with regards to folders isn't as much of an issue, but just go with something softer or a steel like 3V, 420hc, victorinox rostfrei, etc if you want a blade that will withstand abuse even if the lock may still fail. Edge retention? M390 (or cpm 20cv, since they are the same) is a solid choice alongside ZDP-189 (but ZDP is brittle), or cpm 154.

    Really good overall steels with decent toughness, edge retention, and corrosion, then go with something like CPM-154, S35vn or M390. But keep in mind you need to sharpen these steels, otherwise you're always better off going with something like 420 hc, 440, victorinox's rostfrei, etc- since a dull knife with amazing steel is far less useful than a sharp knife with a moderate steel.
     
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    Amen.
     
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    I've been very happy with my Ontario Knife Company RAT 2 for EDC. For bushcraft / hunting use maybe the RAT 1 would be better. Mine is AUS8 steel and while a little "soft", it touches up easily and is no worse than an SAK. They also offer it in D2 now.
     
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    The guys doing the videos bemoaning the hardness of M390 overplayed their hand badly.

    While 61-63 may be more ideal, at 59-60 M390 performs extremely well while still being a bit easier to sharpen. It still kicks butt in cut testing. I just bought a Lionsteel Bolus knowing they are a point or two softer without regret.

    I think S90V is a bit more useful around 59 to 60 than it is harder just because of brittleness.

    Geometry is far more important.
     
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    I also recommend a One-hand Trekker, with a straight edge.
     
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