Multipurpose forged hook... modern recreation (titanium content)

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  1. Park Swan

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    So my good friend who is a machinist got hold of a tool chest from at least a couple of generations back and passed on to me the stuff he thought I would appreciate. There were a lot of great items in the chest, axes and hammer heads, many hand forged drill bits, chisels, and punches; tools from that golden age where technology was booming but the difficult handiwork of skilled craftsman was still essential. Basically, the chest was the kind of find that makes you feel inspired and hopeful, but simultaneously insufficient (could I make my own drill bits from scratch if I needed to?).

    What really impressed me most in this collection was a set of four hand forged steel hooks. I don't know what they were intended for specifically, but my first thought was that they'd be useful around a campsite for anything from stringing stakes or gear to hanging game for processing. The hooks are clearly handmade, but the consistency is surprising. As an homage to the unknown original craftsman, I thought it could be cool to try and make some hooks out of titanium for general camp purposes. I made one today, and decided that this will be the first of a set of four to send to my friend as a thanks for giving me the goodies and the inspiration.

    Two of the forged hooks:
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    The handiwork is clear:
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    Bringing some 1/4" titanium to a point:
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    Hook shaped, not as graceful as the originals. I'll get better, but the subtlety isn't easily achieved:
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    My completed titanium hook resting on two originals for comparison.
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    This was a really cool project to play with. Imitating a craftsman from 80+ years ago is an interesting feeling, and humbling. Forging isn't my strong suit, but this sort of thing makes me just want to forge all day anyway!
    Happy weekend everyone!

    EDIT: I forgot to mention, the oldschool hooks weigh around 40 grams each, the new titanium hook is only 12 grams! I could definitely throw a couple of these into my pack for all around use.
     
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    There is no doubt, you got some skills. Great work.
     
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    Right on. Nice work. That's cool.
     
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    Like everything I saw from you, flawless job.
    One day I'll make a gift for myself,
    And I'll buy one your work piece.
    Oh, and your hammer handle looks awesome too
     
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    Very nice work young fellar. joe
     
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    Sorry mods, didn't realize I couldn't post in the Self Made Gear since it isn't a product I'm selling.
     
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    Thanks guys, yall are very kind.
     
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    I've seen a lot of that type of stuff around, some that I've had handed down or seen on ranches I worked at etc.
    It gives me the same feeling, great job with a modern twist!
     
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    Very cool, I love forging. I need to get set back up, moving is killing me lol. So, how is it forging titanium? (Compared to steel) Where do you find titanium rods?
     
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    It's a lot of fun, and although not as difficult as I expected, tends to hit back at you more than steel as it cools. I have a bad habit of working pieces further than I should when cold because of all the bronze forging I do. When titanium cools, striking it feels and sounds like hitting the anvil face with nothing in between! Titanium can be found online from a few places, I keep hoping to find a source for scrap or recycled bits but no such luck yet.
     
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    I'll have to do a google search
     
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    Mcmastercarr or onlinemetals are the cheapest I've found depending on specific type and shipping cost
     
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    Thanks
     
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    What size stock did you use? I'm really intrigued by forging titanium. I love how's it's lighter but stronger than steel. I was looking at the grade 5 stuff on McMaster Carr and 1 foot long 1/2" bar was $25. I will probably go smaller than that but it wasn't cheap lol. I need to get my propane forge going for titanium. Don't want to deal with coal for it.
     
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    Yeah propane seems the way to go. A bernzomatic is enough for some light shaping with .25" rod. I've been using .25 and .375" rod. Grade 2 is more affordable than grade 5, and is plenty strong and easier to work.
     
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    Good to know thank you!
     
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    So I changed my thinking on this. I was messing around on the Dutch gear site and saw his titanium toggles from tubing. Started looking at McMaster Carr again. I think I have titanium fever lol so I go back to Dutch gear and he sells the tubing by the foot and for $10 which is a decent amount less than McMaster Carr. So I decided to see if he had other titanium for the DIY guys out there. No luck but he does have titanium tent stakes. Various diameters but all 6-7 inches long. So I bout 2 ultralight, 2 burly and 2 of the vargo nail stakes. Spending $18 for over 3 foot of titanium. Which is half price for the McMaster grade 2 titanium. I'm happy with it. Even if I don't forge it into something else I have stakes. Lol
     
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    Nice find, those are a bargain. Any idea on the thicknesses?
     
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    The tubing is .275" the stakes he makes do not have a thickness. I will measure when they arrive and let you know. He does not provide the information for the vargo one but vargo does. (His price was cheaper than vargo, go bulk rate discount lol) I do not know if his is the ultralight vargo or the regular. Vargo states the thickness as .15 on the ultralight and .2 on the regular. Dutch gear might be selling the ultralight since price is closer.
     
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