My 1st backpacking trip

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    I'm headed out to my 1st backpacking trip. A solo trip. My goal is the height about 30 miles with half that being moderate over 3 days . The hardest part is at the start so I'll be old to assess if I should only do part of the trail. The goal being to hike to the into the trail 50 miles in a back 15 miles. But I'll only go half way if it feels like too much because I have to be back by Monday for work. Pictures and more information about my trip to be posted soon :)



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    Have fun! That is one cool pup!

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    You've been awfully quiet of late. I should have figured you were up to something.


    Some thoughts:

    -Do you have good, broken-in footwear? This is vital. Your footwear will be carrying your normal weight plus a lot more over distance. The military says that women are more prone to stress fractures. Pay attention to hot spots on your feet.

    -Bring moleskin and change your socks.

    -Don't bring all that stuff-you'll be sorry.

    -Consider doing 5 miles or so just so you get a taste of what you are dealing with.

    -What about water availability? Water is heavy.

    Have fun!
     
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    Sorry for the poor grammar of the post. I hope you guys got the gist. Voice to text from my phone.
     
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    I think I forgot my 1st aid kit. I'll pull over in a gas station and check soon. If I did I'll pop by Walmart before getting to my destination. I'm gonna be doing about a mile to 2 miles in the dark and most of my hiking the next 2 days. It's gonna be next to a lake
     
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    Most importantly... have fun!
     
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    Congratulations sister ! I'm sure you will do fine !
    I'm glad to see you finally got a real pack. That osprey will change your life
    Flints getting big.
    Looking forward to reading your trip report.
    ENJOY.
     
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    You are going to find that the Osprey is 10000x more comfortable than your Frost River.
    P.S. I totally forgot that I was going to send you some books. I'll get them out Monday, promise.
     
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    Cant wait to read the after report
    Enjoy
     
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    Sounds like you're thinking about a lot of miles, which will be an great learning experience. Hope you take care of your feet and knees on the trip, and that you enjoy My Side of the Mountain if you get some reading in and don't just immediately fall asleep in camp :).
     
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    Back and still alive. My battery pack wasn't fully charged like I had thought it was(hardly 10%) so I had to severely conserve my phone usage so I had the ability to use it for emergencies. Trip report incoming.


    This trip was VERY EDUCATIONAL.

    Highlights

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    I met two cool guys (software devs) on the trail, stayed in their camp one night, and hiked a lot further than I planned with them and they drove me back to my car afterwards (their hike back was only half as far as mine). Was great because I got to go further down the trail.
    Flint got a tick on his cahoonas.
    Amazing views
    Didn't die
    Got to teach some bushcrafting---BOTH of them put their tent directly under obvious widow makers and we had a storm that night. One of them I was able to push down with minimal effort. Scared them good. I don't think they'll dot hat again.
    Again tried to fish, again failed to catch anything.
    My body hurts sooooooo bad.
     
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    I fell immediately asleep.
     
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    Okay, first post is going to be my travel timetable.

    https://www.hikingproject.com/trail/7015154/cross-timbers-trail

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    I went 8 miles in.

    • Arrived at 8PM - WENT THE WRONG WAY INTO A DIFFERENT PARK FOR A MILE OR TWO
    • Started at 10PM on Friday at the correct location/trail head - Juniper Point West
    • Hiked until 12:30AM and camped
    • Arrived at Marina around 11AM after leaving camp around 9AM.
    • Met two cool dudes, we hiked together on and off to Eagle Roost - 8 Miles from my starting destination - by this point I'm not sure how my body is still functioning from all the random pains/aches
    • Setup Camp - Hammock fell - Dutch Clip Issue (will dive into further soon, I need some help)
    • Left at 10:00am - Hiked back to Marina--almost 6 miles--in about 3-4 hours on moderate terrain stopping once so my two new friends could fish and I could filter some water. They gave me a car ride back to the starting point which saved me 3 hours. Got back to my car at 2pm.
    • Arrived home around 4pm (almost a 2 hour drive home)
    • Typing this now.

    I am sore. I hate ticks. I am gross smelling. Back later with pics!



    Discussion Points to come...
    New Shoes
    Waring my Bag Properly
    Dressing Properly
    Packing / Planning Food Properly
    Feet Ritual - I did air out my feet, dry my socks, and rotate my socks this trip!
    Forgot First Aid Kit - You may beat me now - Only got two minor cuts
    Doggy First Aid Review - He got bit by some ants (and laid in a nest) and got a few ticks I had to pull out
     
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    Does 10 year old Hiking shoes count as good broken-in footwear? They've hardly been used, a handful of times a year---I need new ones. I noticed after walking 4-5 hours, I took my shoes and socks off and my toes just felt kinda weird. i pressed my thumb into them, and it left a white print that took 3-5 seconds to slowly turn red again. I assume swelling and maybe circulation issues? I tied my hiking shoes looser the rest of the time and also used wet wipes to wash my feet down every evening.

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    Changed my socks! Moleskin? What's that? Like the little slippers? Explain!

    I was sorry. Didn't bring the woolblanket, saved some weight by forgetting my first aid kit, and ditched all the knives but my bushcraft mora. Still took to much. My guestimation was 35lbs.

    I did 1.5 miles at night, 10pm till 12:30am. Took it slow, enjoyed the sights, until I found a campsite. I did around 6 miles on sat and 6 miles on sunday. See the chart. Lots of elevation changes.

    Water is heavy!!!!! I had a sawyer. The lake is fed by the RED RIVER---guess what color the water was? Filtered it was pretty clear but didn't taste great.

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    Fun was had.
     
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    I'm going to make a few individual posts here that are a bit more focused. Feel free to critique or offer suggestions. I have a thick skin. If you want to say 'you are dumb for wearing tights' feel free as long as you also explain why.

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    Clothing and Footwear

    So I wore a workout shirt / polyester fluffy vest / cotton jacket. Cotton jacket soaked up sweat and I think was still damp two days later. Wore windbreaker the rest of the time. Workout shirt did its job well. Fluffy vest was just too damn warm with temps between 45-65.

    Uh for pants I had like, the cheapest of the cheap leggings and to be honest? They got the job done. It was warm enough I was never cold, and they wicked moisture and dried as I walked. Didn't protect me from a few pokes from briars though.

    Footwear. My toes hurt, my knees hurt, my ankles hurt. My hiking shoes are old and I don't think they have much cushion in them anymore. I was wanting trail runners. I don't like something super heavy nor goes to high on my ankle.
     
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    Oooh will need to get.

    OH hey! I've been to their store! Do you live in the area? They just have one physical location as far as I know.

    I tried to catch some rain water. Didn't work out so good.

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    Pack Fitting Demonstration

     
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    No I'm in Kansas. It was just an example I pulled up. I bought my two off Amazon.
     
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    I ate a few of the the smaller leaf plant thinking it was chick weed. Can anyone confirm?

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    Sounds like a wonderful trip !
    No worries sister, it does get better, just hang in there !
    Boots are very important and with boots you do get what you pay for.
    Leave the cotton at home, including COTTON SOCKS.
    Reason : cotton sucks big red monkey butt !
    A company called. Wigwam makes good socks.
    Aleave (don't know that I spelled that right) goes a long way at reliving pains.
    And most importantly : remember girl your doing great. With every trip you take your learning.
    Knowledge is power
    Never stop exploring !
     
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    Looks like an awesome trip.
    Prov 27 : 17
     
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    No doc
    But if capillary refill is delayed compared to other foot thats a problem
    Something is impeding circulation
     
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    Careful doing that... We had to do it once in order to have enough water for coffee and breakfast in the morning but I couldn't help but think about the chemicals we use to seam seal and Scotchgard our tarps
     
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    I never cared for or understood the point of dutch clips. I mean how hard is passing the webbing through its own loop?
     
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    Not if they weren't broken in.

    See my post above.

    Yeah.

    I'm sure it won't happen again. Experience is a great teacher.

    Great!

    I think red is better than green.

    Cool.

    Do a search on the site for Turmeric.

    Also, frequent light stretching and soaking in a hot bath.

    This is important!

    I prefer different weights of wool. In the summer, you might need cotten or linnen down there, but not yet.

    I think I would have more robust pants. You could always wear the leggings underneath as a base layer at this time of year.

    I think that I would want a boot at least ankle height to help prevent my ankle from rolling. I think it would also offer some (probably not enough) protection from snakebite--important in Texas I think.

    Never eat anything in the field that you are not 100% sure of. Also, know if there are look alikes.

    Always a plus.

    It sounds like you remained hydrated on this hike, too.

    I'm glad that you and Flint made it out relatively intact. Ticks suck!
     
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    Glad you had a safe trip and learned a few new things. I learn some little thing every time I go out. My first backpacking lesson I remember well, I carried too much $h*t. Once you learn what can be done without, the hiking while carrying a large pack becomes so much more enjoyable. It looks like a great pack, the Osprey line are some of the very best available.

    Keep us posted on your next adventure and remember to not beat yourself up too much :)
     
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    A method I've used before is to make a list of EVERYTHING in your pack. When you return home, scratch out the items you took but didn't use.

    Repeat this over 2-3 trips. Add items that you needed but didn't take. After a couple of trips, you'll have a good list of things you NEED and you'll know what you DON'T need.

    After doing this, you have a list of your essentials, then you can add your 'like to haves'. By this time, you will have room in your pack.

    When I was into backpacking, using this method, I went from around a 50# packweight to just under 20# packweight, excluding food. There was a lot of 'I think I'll need this' items that were never used at all.

    Of course, you'll adjust your stuff depending upon your planned activities.

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    I'll get this list updated further. I use this to keep track of my gear. Its missing about half the stuff I took and I haven't selected/unselected what I actually took.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T1Q8yJ2d8M6WTwXr18US0ViyWWPU4KPs_thSafXSM8Q/edit#gid=0

    I took around 8 pounds of food/water. I started to hate the beers I was carrying. I'm going to switch to quality over quantity (aka get some whiskey or scotch for a night cap).
     
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    A small pocket flask does admirably.

    Water weighs 8 Lbs per gallon and you need at least a gallon per person per day. Carry at least a half gallon on you in Texas.
     
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    Since you have your canine partner with you at times, an old trick is carry a small frisbee. Serves as food bowl, water bowl, and exercize toy.
     
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    Smart.
     
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    Got a big bruise on my bum from falling out of my hammock when it came loose. Got trust issues now. Think I had the clip misadjusted pretty bad. Should have had it on the other side so it wasn't pulling away from the clip .

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    The advantage of dutch clips or a regular carabiner is when you setup your tree strap you pick what you think is the right location on the tree,. then you connect your hammock, adjust. As you adjust your hammock hang, often you have to adjust the height of the strap on the tree. If you have to move up or down past a branch on the tree, you now have to disconnect the hammock and feed the end of the tree strap back out of the loop, move and re hook it all up. Also, even with out a branch in the way, a tree with rough bark is hard to move the straps with the weight of the hammock pulling on the strap, it's easier to just disconnect then trying to mess with moving the loop of fabric up and down the tree. Certainly not needed, once setup right it has no real value. But most clips, buckles, are not needed, knots and wood toggles take care of a full setup,,. really just makes it a little easier and faster to setup or adjust.
     
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    I'm not sure what kind of clip that is you are using on your tree strap? It does not look like it is setup right, I don't think the webbing should be pulling the weight on top of the gap in the buckle and I think the webbing should be strung through both side of the buckle, not just one side, there is a gap on the other end buckle also. I have used dutch clips and regular carabiners with no issue, but I don't think your setup is right. Lot of different clips out there, so I could be wrong, but I would not hang like that, replace it with a pair of carabiners or other clips.

    Sounds like you had a great time, looks like a great trip !
     
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    I understand their purpose, i guess me personally i just never saw the point. I use webbing with cinch buckles and a small carabiner. I just don't see any benefit to a dutch clip over a carabiner. Both th clips and a biner have your aforementioned benefits of just passing through the loop. The only benefit i see is the clips are a few grams lighter than a small lightweight climbing biner, but nothing significant. My biners weigh about 16.5-17 grams each if memory serves and dutch clips are 24g per pair. So like 8-10 grams difference . I have seen so many people land on their bums due to the straps rotating slightly on the tree and the clips coming off/slipping through.

    Its just something you have to be mindful of with them, because even if u put them on correctly initially they can shift, especially if you get in and out a few times or its windy and your hammock is swaying a bit when your not in it.
     
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    OK, you post said "passing the webbing through its own loop", so my response was to the advantage of using something over that method. Yea, as far as a dutch clip over a carabiner it is weight savings, and as you point out, it's not a lot. If you are using dyneema/polypro straps and Cuben Fiber tarp you are counting grams so it's lighter. For most the few grams are not going to make the difference. In general dutch gear also works well. The clips Syntria is using are "not" dutch clips. dutch clips do not put the strap over the gap in the buckle, the way dutch clips are setup there is no real way for it to come un-clipped when under load. But I can see they could when not under load, although I have never seen it happen. a carabiner has an advantage with the clip to close the loop so it can't come undone. It's really a personal choice, but there is defiantly a benefit in ease of setup to using a carabiner, dutch clip, other brand clip,.. etc over passing the webbing through its own loop.

    I use carabiners or pass it though the loop depending on the tree, branch setup (but always have two carabiners with me. I find it more useful to have the carabines with me because I can use it for other uses also, like winter time I use one to clip my micro spikes to the outside of my backpack. The versatility multi use outweighs the weight savings for my needs.
     
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    Well done. There is a lot of good information in the comments all around. Seems like you're well on your way.
     
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    I agree with this
    I was looking at the same thing
    Also going through both sides
    Reduces chance of failure
    Doubles the secure points
     
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    I use slap straps.. They work very well...
     

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