My new (old) "Boomer"

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  1. DirtmanDave

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    Let the pictures speak for them selves. .58 Cal. IMG_20190819_102129552.jpg IMG_20190819_102122355.jpg IMG_20190819_102138773_HDR.jpg
     
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    That's pretty cool, the original Mares Leg lol
     
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    We had a boarding blunderbuss kicking around one gun shop I worked at. No one knew or could prove if real or a repo. But was impressive just the same.

    One could envision nails bearings nuts and any number of things jammed down that nearly 1” bore with its trumpet shaped muzzle.

    Very cool
    Thanks for sharin!

    CW
     
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    I hear one way to get an idea if it's real or repro is to pull a screw and see if it's SAE or Metric.
     
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    Blanket gun! That's a really nice one too...
     
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    I love that thing! Needs more pics, esp. Action pics.
     
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    Takes 60 hrs 2f and a .570 ball. Kinda Leary to shoot it.
     
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    Ya gotta shoot it. Maybe start light and work up?
     
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    Nice find! I'd be leary about shooting it too. If I were going to shoot it, I would start much lower than 60grs. I have a .58 cal carbine I often use for small game with a light load of 30grs FF Goex with a .570 ball and .018 patch. Based on pics alone, without knowing details or being able to examine it, I honestly don't think I would shoot that gun.
     
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    One other thing, I'm sure you have done this but verify that its not already loaded. I've bought a couple guns that had a powder charge and ball in them. If its loaded there's no telling what's in there. Pull the ball and clean it out.
     
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    That is a cut down Enfield civil war era piece. They were rifled, so it that isn’t it’s not as old as you think and should be safe to shoot. If it’s rifled you could not pay me enough to pull the trigger.
     
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    Just start light and strap it to a spare tire for the first shots.

    I cant tell ya how many guns get tested like that!! String to the trigger and get behind a tree and POOLLLIT!!

    Cw
     
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    I already checked. It's not loaded. I always check everything out first. Not about to get shot with a "unloaded" firearm.
     
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    Looking down the bore it appears smooth.
     
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    There are good books on Enfields, one of the things a lot of reproductions don't do well are the cups that support the lock through bolts, start looking there. I'd not remove the rawhide but i'd almost bet it will be stamped and proof marked under there. I suspect it was made by an Indian but not a Native American one, hard to tell from photos. either way it's a great piece, enjoy and be safe.
     
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    AWESOME!!!
     
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    Cool.

    Shoot it!!!!!!
     
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    That Looks like a very altered P53 or P56 Enfield. I would check to make sure the nipple and flash chamber are clear. Next I would check the bore with the rammer and make sure there is no round in the gun. Once you are certain there is not a round in it, clean the gun completely. Best to use a length of tubing. Stick it on the nipple with the other end in a bucket of hot soapy water. Run patches through it, drawing the water in and out of the barrel, bolster, and nipple. Any firearm of this period should shoot pretty accurately with a .575 lubed Minnie ball and 40 to 42 grains of FFF powder.
     
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    After enlarging the photos, and really studying them, I don’t think this is an Enfield at all. It appears to be a US made gun. The stock could be from an M1822, or 1842. The escutcheons on the right hand side of the gun and the trigger guard assembly are US, as are the hammer, lock plate, and bolster. It looks sort of like a cut down M1842 musket plus a conglomeration of mixed parts. I’d also want to know if that leather wrap is decorative or is holding something in place.
     
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    It could be something from the old Bannerman surplus arms company.
     
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    I would try to determine if it's an original or not.

    The original load for the 12" barreled 1855 Pistol-Carbine in .58 was something like 40 grains FF, and a .450 Minie. Be worth looking up.
     
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    What ever it turns out to be it’s extra cool.
     
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    It could just be the pictures, but my guess is it isn't very old. What stands out to me is the different finish and aged appearance to the metal parts. The stock doesn't look like it has any stress cracks or dings or scuffs, odd for a gun that was used in what would be considered primitive conditions. Lastly the rawhide on the barrel doesn't look 150 years old. It's a cool gun, I just don't think its a antique.
     
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