New CRKT frankish axe

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  1. Odinborn

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    https://www.crkt.com/cimbri.html

    Named the CRKT Cimbri. Has anyone gotten a look at this thing yet? Designed by the same man that did their Freyr (hopefully the Cimbri is better though). Retail is $99 right now.

    Not sure how I feel about the squared handle however.

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    Yeah, that square haft is the first thing I noticed...I'm not impressed.
     
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    Hmmmm square handle on a chopping tool. I don't think they thought this through and most certainly didn't use a prototype heavily enough. Even if they want a square bottom fit eye, they can make comfortable handle that is rounded (more oval really) and have the last 6" or so up by the head square to fit.
     
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    Meh, like most things that say CRKT on them, I’m not too impressed.
     
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    Makes me think of a blackhawk from Crazy Crow at 4x the cost. Granted the steel is likely not cast but still.

    My 2 cents.
     
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    Nice grain orientation, though...
    :3:

    Meh. That's a hard pass.
     
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    The Franks traditionally threw axes at their foes, especially Romans. As well as spears. Then they'd close in with swords and shields after the thrown stuff had served as the shock and awe phase.

    Is this a throwing axe? I know axe throwing is a hot amongst youthful hipster type persons. You know, drink a micro brew IPA, eat a locally sourced meal, and hurl axes.

    No being a thrower, I cannot comment on the handle in regards to throwing.
     
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    I think that looks really cool. I like the handle. Sure, everyone else makes an oval so this will stand out though it can use a touch of rounding. 99$ is a bit steep and the CRKT logo is distracting. $45 would be much better. Keep in mind this is a functional tool but also a fighting weapon for a military campaign. Designed to wear with heavy padded gloves or armor like a medieval war hammer. Just like the US army trifold shovel isn’t as good as the shovel in most peoples garage.
     
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    At least you know if you break a haft, you could use a coffee table leg as a quick substitute.
     
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    Ugh
     
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    I have zero use for a tool like this. I don’t care who made it
    But a question.
    Won’t the square grip allow a quick direction index? You’ll know right away which way the sharp edge is.
     
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    I like the idea of a friction-fit axe head (as opposed to a hawk head), but that squared haft is as off-putting to me as it is to everyone else. When you look at the description of this thing, they seem to have focused on building this as a weapon rather than a woods tool. Perhaps the square handle is easier to use when it's covered in blood and gore, but it seems like it would just cause more pain when processing wood.

    Maybe someone should tell CRKT that saying a handle is ergonomic in its description doesn't make it so.
     
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    Yes, and not many people carry a battle axe around for personal protection anymore.
    I see potential for blisters and hotspots, but then I see great potential for personal modification. With that said, I’m not gonna buy one.
     
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    Definitely true. Maybe @tobiism will pick one up and show us just how amazing they can become!
     
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    Awww shucks lol :rolleyes:
     
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    Well I'm not doing it. :18:
     
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    Hipster or not, that sounds like a recipe for a really good time. :D
    That axe? Not so much. I know there are guys here who like the Chogan or Birler, but I have not been very impressed with CRKT's axe lineup. There are just so many other options out there for "user" axes.
     
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    I see you've been visiting my neck of the woods.

    https://urbanaxes.com/boston/
    https://www.boston.com/culture/life...throwing-bar-urban-axes-is-officially-opening

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Well my Chogan has pass every test I have use it in. But This Axe i will leave to other to play with.
     
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    i've only had a few of CRKT's smaller sharps over the years butt they all did what they were intended to do w/o any problems/issues

    most of the ones i've had didn't conform to the norm

    and this "hawk" doesn't either :-O

    took me a while reading thru this thread while going back n forth looking at the pics

    ponder this for a minute

    ¿ how many hafts could be re-created using only the head of the hatchet/hawk itself ?

    ¿ how many hatchets/hawks could simply utilize a hardwood plank split to size for a haft ?

    one could use the head to split the wood to size and do the fine shaping

    and BTW if you really want a rounded haft what would keep you from rounding the edges to suit your own fist ?

    that head is growing on me
     
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    Yeah I dig the head, I really do. I just don't want to buy something that I know I'm going to fundamentally change out of the box. For me, personally, there's a difference between willingness to modify a thing if it doesn't work out right out of the box and buying something specifically to modify it. At that point, I'd have to ask if there's something out there that would better suit my needs with less effort.

    And to be quite frank, if I wanted a head like that with a friction, the answer is no, I'm not going to easily find an alternative outside of the custom makers. So you're right, there's a real place for it.

    But I'd say one of the most useful things about hawks as a woods or survival tool is that a replacement haft can be crafted with just the head. I think this one really comes down to the head.
     
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    Alcohol + throwing axes... you just described my college education.
     
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    A lot of opinions on something no one has touched yet. JMO. LOL
     
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    For the money I’d much rather look at Rinaldi axes sold through Baryonx.
     
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    Well, as a Canadian, I just see another use for a broken hockey stick. :dblthumb:
     
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    Got a sur-former, rasp, & cabinetry files?
    Handle issues are reduced, this is a plowshare device, nothing more, nothing less.
    Ho-Hum

    Norm
     
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    I'd be willing to give one a try.
    at least the edge doesn't look as thick as the freyr (which I have and after a few mods, like thinning the cheeks so it's not a splitting wedge, it's pretty decent)
    first thing I thought of when looking at it was the need to radius those front corners a bit more.
     
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    I'll end up with one in a few months most likely. I have a vender who carries CRKT and he always makes sure I buy every axe they have. I have 5 or 6 now I think. I've been satisfied with the ones I have so far. I fiddle with every axe I get so the factory finish is of little consequence to me. I actually think it looks pretty cool. First thing I'd do to this one is make a nice octagon out of that square handle. I'm sure ya'll will see it when one eventually comes my way. It's a sharp chunk of steel with a stick stuck in it. What's not to like?
     
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    Not only have none of us used or even handled it, but none of us have bothered to ask Clovis Merovingia about it, either.
     
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    I'll admit it.
    I had to google that. :54:
     
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    Retail is actually $70 and it wouldn't take much work to round the grip part of the handle a bit. Can't say as I am likely to buy one, though.
     
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    Might be a good tool but doesn’t look very Frankish to me. Very little beard.
     
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    Perhaps Clovis Merovingia or Carolus Magnus would approve.
     
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    The guy designing these for CRKT (Elmer Rousch) is a pretty well respected blackmith/historian and good guy - I have a couple of his arrowheads that would fit right in with those from a battlefield dig. (he also makes weapons for historical reenactors and fancy blacksmithing hammers)
    due to the limits of mass production, these only look like something he would make from 10 feet out -- his forged models are much more refined and usable.
     
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    I bet ole Charlemagne hurled a francisca or two in his day.
     
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    I'm a fan of square handles, this one included. Wouldn't mind putting it through it's paces .
     

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