As I mentioned in the intro forum, I will be relocating from Oregon to the Alamogordo area this fall. Nice to find some "local" folks who appreciate the outdoors and bush skills. I grew up with hunting, fishing, camping and hiking, made it to Eagle Scout -- and to Philmont in 1968 -- got introduced to primitive technology over at PaleoPlanet, and look forward to learning new plants and materials to gather and process in my new home. Ancestors ranched in La Luz/Alamogordo starting in the 1880s. Wayland Canyon, in the Lincoln National Forest, is named for them. Years ago, friends and I organized a gathering in the southern Oregon Cascades that we called Bending Bow -- probably a lot like the one proposed for the Jemez Mountain site -- where we knapped arrowheads, shot our self-bows, made and fired some crude pottery, that sort of thing. The kids who came got a big kick out of throwing atlatl darts at a plywood mastodon I made with an open KZ. If I can ever find a photo, I will put it up.