Not Sure I Was Being Stalked

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  1. brswan

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    Went out on a hike at my favorite State Forest, Little Big Econ in Orlando. I was away from the main trails and at a more remote location. I go to this place a lot to get away from other people.

    Anyways, I'm walking and I hear a grunt on one side and on the other side something in the woods moving. I stopped. It stops. I move again. It moves. I stop again. It stops. I move and then I hear whatever it is come crashing through the woods towards me. I grab my knife and yelled "HEY" a couple times. I stops and I quickly move on out.

    I have no idea what it was. I've been spooked by deer when they bolt if I don't notice them. But they run away from me. This was coming at me.

    This could have been coincidence that it came towards me, but it was awfully strange that it stopped move the same times I did.

    We have gray fox, white-tailed deer, bobcats, and bears. I have no idea what it was but it definitely scared the bejezuz out of me. Any one have anything similar or any idea what it might have been?
     
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    Judging by your description it sounds like a bear. I have to wonder if it could see you. Definitely acted as if it was stalking but upon hearing your voice changed its mind. Black bears generally respond to yelling and move on. The fact it seems to have moved toward you and then left leads me to believe it didn't see what you were. You may have gotten lucky if it was a mother with cubs looking to move you on your way.


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    That's terrifying. Thanks for the info
     
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    Little too far north for those fellas!
     
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    I would have shared. In all honesty I was pretty terrified during the situation.
     
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    We call him Skunk ape around these parts.
     
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    I agree with the bear idea... mom on one side, cub(s) on the other, she grunts, they stop, then she moves toward you to investigate.

    Cougar/florida panther is another possibility, except for the grunting... I'm pretty sure I was watched, and maybe even trailed by a cat for awhile once, but I didn't hear a thing... just a feeling.
     
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    Makes sense. Panther is a possibility but I believe they aren't seen much around here. They're mainly further south.
     
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    It is rare to even hear a panther. They are Wiley. But I suppose it's possible. I would also say bear. I can see how this would have been alarming.....


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    I had a very similar occurrence happen in the Smoky's many years ago. The only difference was it was a male bear with no grunting. He stalked me for a while until I assume he realized what I was and then he ran (we actually saw each other about the same time). The same walking when I walked stopping when I stopped activity. Scared me a lot too.
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    Good point. Either cat, panther or bob cat, I doubt i would have heard it.

    I was thinking maybe even a hog? We have tons of wild hogs. I didn't make any noise besides from moving. The grunt was on the other side of the trail.
     
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    It definitely is scary. I'm usually just watching for snakes and making sure spiders don't hit my face. Now i'm much more alert. Did you call out when you heard it?

    Whatever it was didn't run away. At least I didn't hear it. After I yelled it stopped and I waited a couple seconds before quickly moving away.
     
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    Being a native Floridia cracker, I would guess: 1. wild hog, 2. bear. There are a ton more wild hogs, but you were there and I wasn't. At least it was during the day, and you got away safely.
     
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    I'm guessing a snow manitou,,, I mean they must go somewhere when the snow melts here; maybe Florida?
     
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    I am not sure where you were I left Fl. in 92. I have seen bear 35 mile west of Orlando and a few in richloam and Greenswamp
     
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    Thinking it through more and hearing more opinions. I wonder if you were positioned where she couldn't smell you but thought you were one of her cubs hence her pause when you became vocal, it confused her. Or perhaps it was a him/her bear that thought something was stalking it. You both could have been experiencing the same worry till you gave up your identity.


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    We have had an unusually high concentration of black bears around the LBE... I think it's all the new neighborhoods they are building around the forest area
     
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    Actually I am surprised I did not think of feral pigs. The can grunt. And there are tons in your neck of the wood if I am not mistaken


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    I've been a few times my self both at night and by day , and yes it is un nerving.
    It was the same thing .
    Once when I was 18 and all I had was a pocket knife on me, and on a lonely road in the middle of no where at night, and I was with a friend hitchhiking , we picked up all the throwable rocks we could find, and just kept walking the center of the road, it was a long night.
     
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    Hog is a good guess. Could be coincidence it was stopping same time as me.
     
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    The park I was at is north east of central orlando. There are definitely bears here. A few years ago there were a lot of news coverage about black bear in suburbs.
     
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    Could be. Mom with cubs is a scary endeavor. Just hope it wasn't the case.
     
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    I do remember in the new a few years ago all the coverage about the bears in neighborhoods.
     
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    Yikes. I could image that being a long night.
     
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    Starting to think it may just have been
     
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    I'd guess that it was a hog first and a bear second. I have seen bobcats(within 40 feet or so) and they are silent enough. It definitely wasn't a panther. They sound like a baby crying. I had one sneak in within six feet before to check me out. I did not see or hear her until she was within six feet or so of me ! That was out at the Monsanto plant when I worked nights years ago and patrolled the woods. I have had a similar situation happen once when I was wading waist deep in a swamp while hunting. A small (six footish) gator was interested lol. I climbed up on a downed tree to look. It can be quit unnerving watching the cattails moving slowly and silently just parting in the water lol. He was good eating :D
     
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    Nice one! I'm think you were right. I don't know the habits or either animal. I just found it very odd that it initially was moving when I was. I'm not sure if a hog does that or it may have just been coincidence.
     
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    Was not! While I drive past there (Little Big Econ) all the time, I have not been in the woods since my stroke Easter weekend.

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    I hope feeling better. Sorry to hear about that.
     
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    Had a person stalking my son and i on the trail once. middle of no where, way off the beaten path. very intense, that fight or flight moment.
     
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    What the? That's awful. Care to share any more details? What eventually happened?
     
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    I'd say a pig. Bears really don't do that sort of stuff, at least not the ones I have run into in Ocala, Osceola, swamps here and there.
     
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    My first thought was wild hog. My friend was charged a couple of times when he was living in Florida.
     
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    Id say it was a hog first and then maybe a bear.
     
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    Not really much to say, I'll tell you what though I turned into Papa bear and I'm a humble guy that doesn't like confrontation. After telling a police officer that story he stopped by my job the next week with ccw paperwork.
     
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    That was one spooky tale all the way up untill....


    I bout died laughing!

    Im not so sure it was a hog. They're extremely skittish and once theyre startled, they wont just stop silently. They haul ***. Thats been my experience every single time here in Texas. If they act differently there, id like to hear about it.
    Im also terrified of bears, so anytime i hear about scary noises in other parts of the country, its a bear. But not just any bear. Its a ginormous man eating, home wrecking, angry, half demon, prison escapee, guiniss book of records- bear. So be careful out there!
     
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    I'm guessing it was a pig. He didn't see you, just heard your steps and thought you were sow. He was coming for some loving, :4:.

    I was laying under my tarp one night and heard a loud crashing sound in the back of my truck. I had put my trash bag in the back to keep it from being scattered by critters. So I'm laying there and it sounds like a damn bear in the back of my truck, crashing, scratching, clawing. I was almost scared to get up and find out. I grabbed my pistol and crawled out of my sleeping bag being as quiet as I could slowly creeping to where my truck was parked on the other side of some tree's. Shined a light on my truck and nothing. Not a peep, so I look in the back and sure enough it was a little tiny mouse. I could have swore it was a bear. It's funny how sounds are amplified when your by yourself in the woods. I still don't know how that little mouse made that much racket. Ya, I felt like an idiot, lol!!!
     
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    Grey fox will do that. I don't know why. I once hunted a WMA near Gainesville where I had a great deer stand between three cypress ponds. The high strip of land that ran between the three ponds was a natural deer travel funnel. I had a stand on the SW side, the middle, and the N side, with the middle stand being my favorite. When I'd go hunt the N stand, it was pretty normal for one or both of a grey fox pair to start following me in the dark to and from the stand. They would try to stay just out of view but I could shine their eyes and they'd let me walk right up to them. I could hear them because the pine needles and leaves were very thick on that ground and they couldn't help but crunch when they'd walk, even with their little bodies. When my back was to them they would stop and go at my pace.

    I presume it was a mixture of territoriality and curiosity. Their behavior reminded me of a friendly domestic dog puppy in some ways. As they became accustom to me, I would dare say they enjoyed my presence. Sometimes before daylight one or both would come trotting along and hit my scent trail, then come under my stand and hang out there until daylight. Although I was in the woods, as the crow flies I wasn't far from a farm on private land. It may be they associated my human scent with food.
     
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    Could have been an arctic python.
     
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    If this wasn't a family friendly forum, I'd have a ton of jokes to make about this one.
     
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    LOL! Hadn't even considered it that way but you're right.
     
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    Sounds like a Rottelope. It looks like a big dog with horns. It tends to be attracted to tuna salad or cheap cigars.
     

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