NRA Knife

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  1. Gary V

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    Most of these are straight from China
     
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    That is one thing that really irks me about the NRA...
    Constantly calling for extra donations once you renew and offering to send you Chinese made crap for said donation.

    Why are you wasting my donation money on some overseas trinket, plus paying the shipping to get it out to me when you are looking for extra cash?
     
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    Are you saying that you know these are made in China? That might make a difference to some people so maybe you could clarify that comment a bit.

    I suspect they may well be a Chinese product since you can get one free with a $35 membership.
     
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    You don't have to choose to get the knife or any other gift. Simple.
     
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    Anybody else out there fighting for your second Admendment right in Washington ? Tell em you don't want the knife or give it to someone who will appriciate it. I'm thankful for what they do.:42:Murica !
     
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    That's exactly why I support the NRA. If there was no NRA we would have lost much of our 2A rights by now - I have no doubt. As for the skinner knife, I'm giving it to my grandson. I know it's gonna be a cheap knife but he'll think it's the coolest thing.

    Also like you said you check the box only if you want the gift. It's your choice.
     
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    To @Medic17 's point, most people joining are going to accept the free gift. The finances used to purchase and ship these cheap items is money wasted IMHO. Use that money instead to accomplish the mission for which I joined the organization. I DO decline these "free" gifts when I renew, but I am certain that most others do NOT decline.
     
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    I used to own a business and we had calendars, coffee mugs, mini screwdrivers and flashlights printed to give away. These (promotional) advertising items get your name out there. Nearly every big business does this because it works. Giving them away with a membership is even smarter because you get reimbursed for the promotional items (which I never did) and you get more memberships. In the purest sense it is wasteful but from a business standpoint it is a proven way to expand and grow.
     
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    It would be of interest to me and I suspect a few others as to what percent of money the NRA takes in goes to actual lobbying efforts in Washington, who knows perhaps there's some kind of tax write off gimmick with these giveaways that might actually result in more cash available for the lobbying efforts.
     
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    Yes, there are other options:

    1) Second Amendment Foundation
    2) Gun Owners Of America
    3) Nation Association Of Gun Rights
    4) Constitutional Rights PAC (not exclusively a 2nd amendment PAC, but they've worked hard to defend it in the past)

    Honestly, I consider Gun Owners Of America to be the only no-compromise advocate in existence. I'm not anti-NRA by any stretch, but they have given ground where (in my opinion) they should not have.
     
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    The NRA is a nonprofit organization so they don't need deductions because by definition there is no profit to deduct expenses from. They do have an advertising budget which this expense likely falls under. Advertising budgets are usually pretty tight and money is put where it produces the greatest gains. These giveaways must work for them because they are always doing it.
     
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    I appreciate your perspective.
     
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    This x1000

    My money goes to GOA. I'm still a life member of the NRA but until they stop compromising they won't get any more of my money.
     
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    You can see that I like this topic lol.
    I think both GOA and NRA have their places. Take the bump stock issue and the NRA, sometimes you pick a fight (law suit) and other times you compromise (as they did). Compromise can be good because in politics because you generally get something in return. As proof you can see how our federal government works when parties don' t compromise - nothing happens. I picture the NRA as like a political party for gun rights.
     
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    Guns or knives, Butch?
     
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    Dear GARY V,


    You are now a member of America’s oldest civil rights organization. (I didn't know it was) It is great to have you in our corner! As an NRA member, you are defending your Second Amendment rights and promoting gun safety across America.


    Your credit card will be billed for $35.00* for a 1 Year Membership in the National Rifle Association with "American Rifleman (Print Edition)" as your magazine choice. (a magazine is another gift option you can choose)


    If you opted to receive a free new member gift (skinner knife for grandson), please allow four to six weeks for delivery. (wow long delivery time - they must be ordering them in batches based on demand)


    Questions about your membership? Our award-winning membership services team is happy to help. Please contact us here.


    We will be in contact with you soon with important details about your membership benefits. (yeah, that means I'm on their mailing list now - again) Once again, thank you for joining NRA! (You're welcome)


    Sincerely,
    NRA Member Services Team
     
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    I was not aware of these. I am an Endowment Life NRA Member. I will look into these other groups to help fight the cause.
     
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    The NRA Foundation is a non-profit group. The NRA-ILA is the lobbying arm of the NRA and not considered a charity. Contributions to the NRA-ILA are not tax-deductible.

    Why are these items good?

    1. I would rather see the NRA net $20 out of $30 because they gave out a free gift than see those same people not sign up.
    2. When you use these branded items in public, you are advertising for the NRA. Sometimes people mean to do a thing, like send in a donation, but just keep forgetting. Seeing this advertisement may just be the reminder someone needs.
     
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    The NRA is not a charity either and contributions to it are not tax deductible that I am aware of. A nonprofit isn't necessarily a charity but all charities are nonprofits.
     
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    double post
     
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    The NRA Foundation is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt non-profit, and donations to them are tax-deductible. It's just the NRA-ILA that are not tax-deductible. I looked it up just now and apparently they're a 501(c)(4), which I'd never heard of before. It means they're a tax-exempt non-profit, but that contributions are not tax-deductible. The reasons why confuse me too much to even try to post.
     
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    I just looked it up too and the NRA website says:
    Contributions, gifts or membership dues made or paid to the National Rifle Association of America are not refundable or transferable and are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes.

    link: https://joinnra.nra.org/donate
     
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    I am saying that I have had 5 or 6 folding knives from NRA membership deals and they were ALL from China. Don't positively know about these ones.....
     
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    Don't take it wrong.....but I have honestly not heard of any of these. The NRA had a big voice and millions of members, so they get heard. I will research these other groups also. Thanks for informing me. :42:
     
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    ^ me neither (but I wasn't ready to admit it until you did)
     
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    My dad got a folding knife for renewing his membership. He thinks it is pretty cool. Looked like a budk special to me. To each his own. I got him a buck 119 years ago so I know he is covered as far as if he ever needs a real knife.
     
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    @Hillbilly stalker it's true, but the more members, the more presence they'll have. I encourage people to join multiple 2A advocate groups if they can afford it.
     
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    For most topics I would agree with you; however, this is an issue of a fundamental human right that has already been eroded to a shadow of its former self. "Compromise" is a nice way to say "we won't take away as much all at once". Rights go away very easily but getting them back tends to be much more difficult.
     
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    Perfect! I don't want them to do anything.
     
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    You have a point there. When they shoved the Patriot Act through it was only supposed to be in effect for about 4 years. It's been 17 years now.
     
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