Old School Grinding Wheel/ Big Stone Wheel...

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  1. thederrick106

    thederrick106 Hunter Supporter Bushclass I

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    This past year I was lucky enough to receive a very old grinding wheel, that apparently has been in my family for a few generations. Its spent the last few decades in a pile of other old stuff behind a garage. Its frame was well rotted, and had been repaired more times than I could count with old nails... There was no saving the frame, and I wish I had saved a picture but it was pretty sad. The stone and its mounting system were still good. Just needed a frame and crank handle.

    I was very excited to be offered this and have the opportunity to rehab it. Back to our roots with this old bit of kit.

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    I really feel lucky to have been passed down an old round stone like this. The frame I built is mostly a single 4x4. I used some threaded rod to bolt it together... It can actually fold up a little. I used a chunk of an old broom stick for the crank handle. All I need is a pan of water under it, and my wife to crank the handle!!!

    Thank you for your time,

    -Derrick
     
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    Nice acquisition. Now you need to put a foot pedal on it.
     
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  3. NevadaBlue

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    You are a lucky man!

    Don't leave the pan of water under it. The wheel will tend to soften if left sitting in the water if it is a natural sandstone wheel.
     
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    Has the wheel gone out of round? If so I'll be curious to watch how you fix that. I have access to one that is badly out of round and I dunno how to fix it.
     
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    That is great sir!! A foot pedal would be a great upgrade!
     
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    Looks like it is ready for another 3-4 generations.
     
  7. thederrick106

    thederrick106 Hunter Supporter Bushclass I

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    That's one reason why I didn't make an attached water bath for it. Water only when necessary.
     
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    back in my days of tool making we use to use the grinding wheel dressers to redress a wheel that was out of true and or had a flat on it. To do this we would balance the wheel the best that we could and the lock it in place, once this was done we would mount the dresser in a vice and move the wheel till the out of round section (top of the egg) would just touch the dresser.

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    Once we knew where we were starting we would then start the wheel in motion and very just touch the wheel in the Top of the egg after every 10 or so revolutions we would move the dresser in a 1/64th of an inch and start again by going along the width of the wheel. It seems as if it is a long job and it is but when the boss tell you that the Grinding wheel is worth more to him than you are you dont mind taking the time to get a Grinding wheel back into working order.

    hope this helps, PM if you have questions etc.

    thanks
     
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    Mine is not perfectly round, but not to far off... As far as fixing an out of round stone I wouldn't know where to point you? Maybe if you were really good with and angle grinder or giant belt sander?

    Mine wobbles a bit, but as far as usage goes it doesn't affect it to much...
     
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    that is awesome. A good way to true a sandstone is to get it spinning and use a 1 inch steel pipe. use the end and work it over.

    Here is my grinder, I bypassed the foot pedal and went to something else.

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    That's such a great shop!!
     
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    Such valuable tools! Especially for first steps of grinding. One could really remove alot of material.
    In actual current prices these huge stones would cost a fortune (once again?).
     
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    Very cool! My grandpa had one with a foot pedal. Sadly, a lot of his stuff went up for sale when he passed unbeknownst to the rest of the family. That was a sore subject for quite a while...
     
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    I too have a handpowered grinding stone, but it had been sitting in water for a period. The previous owner left it outside, uncovered and the waterreservoir filled up with rainwater.
    So now it's eggshaped and I need to grind it round again.....
     
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    Foot pedal!!
    Turning the crank is what grand children are for:).

    @thederrick106 Nice grinding stone.
    I still regret not salvaging the one we had when I grew up.
     
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    Score! Nice job on the frame!
     
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  17. thederrick106

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    I left it outside for this winter... I wanted the new shiny 4x4 frame to get a bit of an weathered/ aged look. This spring I will probably find a spot to put it undercover. My shop is really small and down to standing room only.
    I figured it spend decades outside behind an old garage another year next to my outdoor equipment wont hurt it.
     
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    You might take a look at the ones made with a steel frame you sit on and the pedals are not bicycle but up and down .
    I have one but I'm too big to be sitting on it.
    As for water , usually there is a drip can positioned over the wheel while your working .
    FYI harbor freight sold a wet wheel for a while smaller but electric .
    wet wheels are very slow speed ,so don't expect to do any thing in a hurry .
     
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    Ebay has one for sale $89.

    If you look through the images in the browser you can see the metal framed one like I have .
     
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    I've got a metal one, with a lopsided wheel. Still works that way, but I intend to true it.
    I had to fix the pedal rods, and stop it from slipping on the shaft already. I don't use water on it most of the time, and it still doesn't overheat. I think they cut faster wet though.
    A family handdown, as yours was.

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    Been kicking myself in the backside for years for passing up a stone like that. I was a bit bigger I think, and had a treadle drive. It too was a mess and needed restoration, but would have been a real bargain at 75 bucks.
     
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    I have seen cut down old tires used as reservoirs, suspended by a chain that just un hook and drop when not in use.
     
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    That's what mine had attached under it when I got it. Chuck full of leaves and old debris!!!
     
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    Nice.

    When I was a kid, an old German farmer down the road from us had one... every once in awhile, when we were visiting, he'd have us help him sharpen stuff... garden and barn knives mostly, but the odd hatchet and ax as well. He had a coffee can mounted over it, with a hole in the bottom to dribble onto the work. I remember we used to fill it from the rain barrel. Looking back, we did the cranking work. he did the sharpening. lol
     
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