Perpetual Esee Junglas passaround #3

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  1. xRangerx

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    Rules are pretty simple. post pictures or video of a trip report, skill or bushclass lesson in which the knife is used and let us know what you think of it. Try and get it off to the next person within a few weeks, and the last person to receive the knife will organize the next leg of the pass around.

    Original thread.
    Perpetual ESEE Junglas pass around

    After you get your chance with the knife, contact the next person on the list for their shipping info, if there are any issues message me and I'll do my best to help or answer any questions.

    Big thanks to MountainMel for making this possible and equally big apologies on my part for taking so long to get the next leg of the pass around rolling.


    I didn't get out to use the Junglas as much as I had hoped, but I got to take it on a few hikes and thought I had pictures of it in this thread: xRx, BDH and CEH hit the woods! But I failed.

    We will go with 5 names on here to keep things organized (same requirements apply as in original post):

    @CoolBreeze135

    @Scratchthejeepguy


    @ScrambledO
     
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  2. CoolBreeze135

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    Can I get in? I really like the idea of this. Really cool way to get experience with a new blade, and hear many opinions.
     
  3. xRangerx

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    Heck yeah! You got it first
     
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    @CoolBreeze135...You'd better start saving up, because you're going to want to buy one of these as soon as you send it to the next guy. :)

    The Junglas is awesome!

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  5. xRangerx

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    Bump!
     
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    No one else wants a shot to try this out???
     
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    I'm surprised no one else has jumped on this. This blade is a lot of fun.

    We should get Scrambled-O to try it out. I bet he'd generate some interest watching him whip up one of his fancy breakfasts with the big blade :)
     
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    Unbelievable!
     
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    I'll volunteer if possible.
     
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    Sorry man, original rules state you need to be a supporter and have posted a trip. At this rate there is time to do so though!
     
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    What is the difference between the ESEE Junglas and Ontario's RTAK 2?
     
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    Much better sheath, more comfortable handle, better build overall in my opinion!
     
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    I had a chance to use this knife. It is a beast of a chopper!
    Come on folks, don't be skeered!
     
  14. Scratchthejeepguy

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    I'd love to try that out. I've been thinking about a larger blade ever since I got my hands on the Condor PBK.
    Do I need to post up a previous trip report link or something to qualify?
     
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    clarification... PM sent :)
     
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    He will probably do a cool video using it!
     
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    It is going out today!
     
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    So whose playing with this now? CoolBreeze? Let's see someone get those fancy curls out of it like NWPrimate!

    I just noticed Scrambled-O is on the list!!! I love his video's.
     
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    Still hasn't made it to me yet. I think USPS is dragging their feet...
     
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    I'm amazed it's not there! I will track it here shortly and see what's going on
     
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    Having an issue with another package right now too. They need to get their act together.
     
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    I'd be down to join in. Have multiple esee videos on our channel. Posted video trips here before. Teainthetreesbp on YouTube.

    Just noticed it has to be a paid member, will pay my dues tonight.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Bump for action!
     
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    Took it on this trip the day after I got it in the mail. Weekday by the water

    Also did some fine work with it and posted it in various threads:

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    Sending it on to the next person soon.
     
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    Used it to split some kindling, since it's getting cooler and the fireplace will be in use before long.

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    So who's next? I've lost track and am too lazy to read through the thread :)
     
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    It's getting shipped to Scratchthejeepguy this week. Hopefully going out today.
     
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    awesome. btw, those were some sweet looking curls you made @CoolBreeze135

    it's nice to see so many folks getting a chance to play with this fun knife. I wonder how many have purchased one after using it.
     
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    Thanks!

    I really enjoyed playing with it. With that broad 10.5" blade, it is a more powerful tool than my other big knives.

    However, at 23 ounces naked, it is approaching being too large for a packable knofe, IMO. I usually prefer to carry my BK4 over a hatchet. It is more versatile and weighs less. The Junglas is heavy enough that I would probably just carry an axe.

    Really fun blade, though. Just not the kind of thing I would do a lot of hiking around with.
     
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    Woo Hoo! Can't wait!
     
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    The Junglas came in the mail today. It is a whopper of a blade that's for sure. I have a small injury on my hand, so I won't be able to use it for at least a day or two… But I was able to put it to some use today opening up this letter.

    I'm pretty sure the letter opened up all by itself once it's saw the Junglas coming at it!

    [​IMG]
     
  36. Scratchthejeepguy

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    So I still have an ouwie on my hand, but the weather was so nice today, I just couldn't sit inside, so I grabbed a pair of gloves, the Junglas... and went for a short hike with it.

    I'm still trying to figure out the best way to hang the sheath off my belt, but the dang thing is so big, I'm still working on it.
    I do love the kydex sheath. It has TONS of retention. So much that I actually had to loosen it a little with a hair dryer... I hope that's ok. I think it's much better now. It's easily removed with one hand, yet will not fall out at all, when shook upside down.

    I went for a two mile hike with it and yes... I noticed it was there, but it wasn't too bad...

    I did happen upon this huge mess of mushrooms on the side of this Birch. I have no idea what kind they were but there were so many of them, I had to take a picture of them. Junglas for reference...
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    I know with a blade this large, it's going to be difficult to do fine tasks with it. Let's face it... This sucker was made for chopping, splitting, and killing pigs and zombies.
    Since there were no pigs around, and most of the zombies around here are already dead......again... I figured I'd try the chopping and splitting.

    Here's a nice big piece of oak. I had no problems battoning through this guy.
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    I also had no problem chopping through this live arm sized, willow branch at all. It has a nice balance to it for chopping
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    The hefty weight of the Junglas also worked very well for sharpening stakes like this one:
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    Then I found a nice piece of Cedar and decided to make a split wood fire with it.
    First I'll split it in half:
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    Then keep battoning it into smaller and smaller sized fuel, and using the blade edge to scrape off a nice mess of fine scrapings, that I made into a birds nest tinder pile.
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    I won't lie to you... Making pencil lead sized fuel with this monster ain't exactly easy. It's like trying to open a beer can with a backhoe, so I left my kindling a little on the large size:
    [​IMG]


    Feather sticks aren't very difficult with it though, I actually kind of liked the long length of the blade since it would hit the stump and stop blade from going all the way down, less chance of the curls coming off.
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    Tomorrow I think I'll try carving a bow drill set with it!
     
  37. NWPrimate

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    Good job making that monster work for you. I hear on you the belt carry issue. I've found that it's just too big too be comfortable on my hip. The easy fix that I've found is just to attach it to a cheap sling and carry it hanging across my body and this works much better for me.

    I just rigged it up with some bank line, but I'm sure you could find something more elegant if you care about the looks.

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    Again, great job on that fire prep!
     
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    Thanks for the tip! I'll try that next!
     
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    I spent a full day in the woods yesterday with the Junglas and got to know it some more. I was still trying to figure out my favorite way to mount the sheath and think I may have found it.

    A few days ago, on the first day I got to get out in the woods with it, I tried putting the kydex sheath onto the nylon sheath, then attaching that to my belt, but I didn't like it... It was way too floppy. Then I tried tying the bottom of the kydex to my leg to keep it from flopping but didn't like that either.
    NWPrimate suggested the gun sling idea so I thought I'd bring some slings with me along with some other stuff and try them out.

    First up I removed the nylon sheath from the kydex sheath, and tried using a cheap Winchester single point sling. I decided that I liked it to hang on my left side, (I'm right handed) and draw it like a sword.
    I've always wanted to be a pirate... but sea sickness, and fear of sharks with friggen laser beams on their heads, keeps me away from the ocean.
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    I like the pirate sword draw position, but didn't like how dangly, and constantly twisted it was with the single point sling.

    Next up I used some small bits of paracord and used a BlueForce Gear two point sling. This worked very well since I could easily adjust the height of the knife with the adjustable sling, and the two points of contact kept it oriented correctly from twisting the entire time.
    [​IMG]
     
  40. Scratchthejeepguy

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    The two point sling was much more comfortable to hike with, was in a great position and would be my second favorite option.
    Things I didn't like about it was:
    Again... a little too dangly for me,
    when I bent over, it would swing in front of me sometimes,
    I always felt like I was leaning to the right to compensate for the weight on my left side,
    and it took two hands to draw.

    Then I tried what is now my favorite way to carry it. Before I left, I pulled a Blade Tech Tek-Lok out of my box of 3 gun stuff, and attached it to the kydex using some paracord. With all the holes in the kydex sheath, it was easy to attach at pretty much any height or cant I wanted it in. Plus, there's three feet of paracord on there!
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    It quickly and easily attaches to my belt, I can draw and sheath it with one hand, it isn't in the way of my carry pistol on my right side, and stays very secure and solid. Plus I REALLY feel like a pirate when drawing it!
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    If I need it to be more vertical to squeeze in a tight spot between two trees or something, there's enough play in the paracord to easily push it vertical.
    [​IMG]


    Even with the long length of the Junglas, I can still sit down on a flat surface like my raised bed at my base camp without noticing it:
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    Sitting on a stool or stump is no problem either:
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    Later, I even noticed that when sitting in most chairs, I can just sit down without even thinking about it:
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    Even the kitchen table is no problem:
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    And... If you find yourself walking through a playground, and don't want the cops called on you while clown hunting, you can easily swing it vertical and hide it with your arm:
    [​IMG]

    In fact, the only time I ever had the sheath hit anything, was when I sat on my ATV, but it was still very comfortable.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I hiked a total of a little over 4 miles with it that day, trying out different ways of carrying it, drawing it and sheathing it again, chopping things along the way, pretending to be a pirate screaming "Arrrrrr Matey! Walk the plank!" While covering my eye with my left hand...
    Halfway through, I got to my little base camp, got some stuff out and cleaned up the place a little
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    I thought that since I had plenty of time in the woods, I would knock out a Bushclass lesson that would involve some carving too, so I decided to do the "build a Bow Drill kit" lesson for Advanced. This calls for 3 different bow drill fire kits, from 3 different wood types, all blown to flame... so the first one I made with the Junglas was Cedar on Cedar:
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    Using cedar shavings for a tinder pile:
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    The next one the Junglas helped me build was Pine on Pine:
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    Keeping with the Pine theme, I used a bundle of fat wood shavings for this tinder bundle. The Junglas doesn't have a sharp spine, but the blade edge worked great for shaving the soft fatwood.
    [​IMG]

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    Lastly, I made one with Quaking Aspen, using the inner bark of the same wood for a tinder pile. I goofed up on the camera though when recording, so I didn't get a good picture of this one, but here's an out of focus one, with the bow drill kit in the background, and the tinder pile was burning:
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    It was getting close to dinner now, and the hunger was starting to get to me... I figured it was time for some food so I started a split wood fire, using cedar:
    [​IMG]


    Then got some water boiling for some ramen noodles:
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    After dinner, I decided to use the Junglas to carve out a try stick, so I carved a pointed end, pot hook notch, saddle notch, latch notch, square notch, and rounded end. It wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be with the huge blade.
    [​IMG]


    At first, when I received the Junglas, I was impressed by its size, but I honestly... wasn't too thrilled with it, but now that I've found a way to carry it that I'm REALLY happy with... It's starting to grow on me... Some things I would change if it were mine would be to sharpen a section of the spine for scraping and striking a ferro rod, and possibly grinding a small notch in the back of the spine to use as a pot hook, kind of like the Tahoma Field knife has. Also putting a ferro rod holder on the sheath.
     
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    I'm late finding this thread. I'm stoked that this thing is still making its way around. It's been traveling for over a year now!! Great looking outing. As far as loosening the sheath retention. You did see that there is a sliding lock on the sheath right? It's really easy to miss. When locked it holds the knife in tight, when unlocked I found it came out easy enough.
     
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    Awesome job @Scratchthejeepguy ! That angled belt carry idea looks like it works great. Nice work on those bow drill sets too. Doing fine work with a big knife is a lot fun, because it makes you get creative and you can almost always find a way to get it done. Now that you've experienced the joys of being a woods pirate, I think you're going to miss that knife when it's time to send it on down the line.
     
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    Poopnuggets....
    I saw that sliding retention screw but Like an idiot, I didn't think there was a reason it was meant to slide.... I'll heat and reform the kydex and use the sliding screw. I'm curious as to how good that works anyways. Thanks for letting me know!
     
  46. MrFixIt

    MrFixIt Old Jarhead Supporter Bushcraft Friend

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    Nice job @Scratchthejeepguy !
    When I had it, I didn't even carry it. I had it stashed in my pack.
    And like @NWPrimate said, I kinda miss it, even though I'm not a "big knife" guy. (Unless my machete counts...)
     
  47. Scratchthejeepguy

    Scratchthejeepguy Guide Bushclass II

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    I had one more thing I needed to make with the Junglas before I sent it off tomorrow to ScrambledO....





    Packing material.
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  48. Sealbilly

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    I would like to try it but I'm not a paid member. Might pay just to test drive that sucker. I almost bought one a few years ago but bought a BK4 instead.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
     
  49. MrFixIt

    MrFixIt Old Jarhead Supporter Bushcraft Friend

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    Bump...whatever happened to this?
     
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  50. Brew-Jitsu

    Brew-Jitsu Mora Tribe #100 Supporter

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    This is a neat idea. I've never been much of a big knife guy, but I always like seeing their versatility. I'm looking forward to seeing what else people do with this blade.

    I have a couple knives I'd like to pass around. @xRangerx - may I borrow some of the wording in your guidelines in the first post?
     

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