The conversation usually jumps off with whether to carry a trowel or not. I've historically been in the "not" camp as I've managed to get by using a stick. That said, now that they have trowels that weigh like 1/2 ounce, I may pick one up just because it's easier. Anyhow, this thread is about the logistics. It may get a little graphic, so if you're sensitive.... tune out now. So typically I'll grab a tree trunk and squat. If I just squat without the tree, my downed pants sort of create a poop bucket. I'd have to totally strip...not happening if I can avoid it. Since I'm at the base of a tree, roots are always an issue. Furthermore, I'm learning that most folks dig the hole first and poo into it. I've tried, and since I don't have a back-up camera on my ass, I invariably miss the hole or have dug the hole "off center." As such, my routine is to poo first, then dig the hole next to the poo and push it in. Not a problem with a poo stick, but with a trowel...I don't want to put that trowel back into my pack. What am I doing wrong?