Discussion in 'Cooking & Water Purification' started by LJHfrstr, Jan 9, 2017.
I have branded that unique mark in my thumb a few times..
That's how we know each other is in the club.
Oh well, in that case I am covered ! I have the 'mark' LOL i was sort of hoping I could get out of here with out saying so
That SVEA is no more (or less) classic than that Buck knife and Sierra cup. Ha. The SVEA is a great little chugger. Nothing else sounds like it.
You've got a good eye, Mr J. Those items plus the old percolator are four fifths of the "86 club"; five things I bought as a teen-ager in '86 that I haven't gotten rid of, and likely won't.
The Svea is one of those Things. If you have to explain your love for it, they will never understand. From its priming ritual that borders on witchcraft, to its turbo afterburner howl when it's up to speed, to its calico-tarnished brass when it's just sitting there, the Svea has a place in our hearts.
In the 80's those Bucks were the custom knife for the common man, Randall's if you had money. The SVEA or a 111 were the only thing going if you wanted to pack in, especially after reading Fletcher. The Sierra cup was and still is the most impractical but coolest looking cup out there. That is a fine looking coffee pot, barely broke in from the looks of the dents. Now all you have to do is throw the guts away and have real boiled coffee. Just keep adding grounds until the end of the trip. Better each day!
I'll bite, what was no. 5?
@MartyJ , #5 is an early High Sierra external frame backpack. I agree with you about the cup. Nowadays it's mostly just the "old school badge" you hang off your kit somewhere.
The knife, cup, and coffee pot were unrelated purchases that year, but the pack and the stove share a story. We didn't have an REI store where I grew up, but nearby there was a privately owned store with similar inventory. The owner/manager was a great old guy with lots of stories of his adventures. He hired knowledgeable staff who took a lot of time off to go on their own trips and test gear. That was a great store. 1986 was the first year I went to Philmont. I was in the store buying that backpack to replace my K-Mart special, and the owner noticed me eyeing the shiny new Sveas. I HAD read Fletcher at that point, and told him so. Unfortunately, I had already spent several busboy's paychecks on the pack, and simply couldn't afford much else. He said "Come back tomorrow and we'll work something out."
The next day I returned, and he was cleaning up an old one. It had belonged to his grown son, who had replaced it with one of the new MSRs that were becoming popular. He showed me how to prime it and light it, making sure I could do it myself, and sold it to me for 25 bucks.
Yeah, I won't be getting rid of this stove any time soon.
That is such a great stove/outdoor story. I know you thought you were big poop with that Fletcher stove and you were! I am sure you have payed that guys kindness forward many times. I know this is a stove thread but the Sierra Cup dates to a time when you would pull it off your pack and dip it in a mountain stream and not worry about fatal or near fatal infections. At that time it was the new school version of the Voyager's wooden canoe cup. Here is my favorite Sierra Cup. Yes there is a Weed, California. Also a canoe cup I carved last year.
Broke down and picked up a 1/2 pint kerosene stove, in this case a Primus 96 made in 1956. For size comparison I placed it between a older Optimus 8R (left) and a newer SVEA 123R (right). I love this stove. I know it is not nearly as practical as a Pocket Rocket or so other newer lightweight high pressure stove but they are a classic. And the kerosene is a lot more klutz friendly then these two white gas stoves. It is a bit more on the set-up and take down but I am not in a hurry anymore and age is keeping me more on day trips. Another plus is they are capable of extended cooking, not just heating water.
That's awesome! AND some nice Kettles to boot. With everyone raving about the SVEA 123's on this forum I was able to buy one from @longhunter . It'll be going camping with me next weekend!
That SVEA looks brand new. Great stove but remember the cautions about leaving the key in while cooking. Wild onions? Look tasty.
Added another classic to the herd. Actually a couple of them. I picked up a Primus 71 E last weekend. It is similar to the SVEA 123 in function and design but with a longer pedigree. This one was made in 1953 (Primus date stamped most of their products for years) and fits in its own aluminum housing/burner/windscreen. Unlike the SVEA, you can prime and light it while still in the housing. Also unlike the SVEA, it comes in a usable cup and fry pan. The SVEA comes with such a little cup, most people don’t bother with it. For my money the 71 is a better design. This one came full of fuel (white gas) and after a new gasket for the filler cap, lit right up and chugged along. Who knows how old the gas was. I picked up another a couple of weeks ago but don’t have pictures yet. I love these old stoves.
I recently won an ebay auction which included a Sigg Tourist set, an Optimus 88 set, Optimus pot gripper (hard to find or missing from kits) and a Scout Billy. I needed another 88 kit like a hole in the head, but I couldn't resist
I have a Primus 71 in a Groniger cook set, basically the equivalent of a Sigg Tourist but made to hold the Primus. It wasn't getting much love because the pots are bigger volume than I normally need. I decided I wanted to adapt it to use with the smaller Optimus set.
Took me a few tries, but I finally figured out an adapter ring to hold the Primus in the lower windscreen.
Optimus 99 with home made lid for the pot.
Next to a Svea 123R
Great stoves Spork! Here is a couple more too. My other Primus 71 that is similar to your Optimus 80. It is somewhere from the 1956-62 era not having a date stamp. Next to it is an unmarked Primus 71? Optimus 80? Likely made after Optimus bought out Primus and quit marking the stoves other then a label. You can see the label is gone on this one. It was missing the housing and key so I have few clues.
One more. This poor old beast is an Optimus No. 8. It has been used a lot and is missing it’s little wrench and had a home made replacement key but otherwise in good shape. I have elected to stop the rust but otherwise leave it as found (the Bodie approach). A nice hard to find early camp stove.
Those home made lid and grill are the “bomb”!
The grill nets are for Konro...Japanese tabletop grills - http://www.korin.com/Grillware_2/konro_grills_3
Most cups/pots that will nest with a Nalgene bottle can substitute for the original cup/lid. I say most because I've encountered a few that don't.
These are GSI Glacier cups of differing vintage...the older one has a smaller inside diameter. I've not tried the Walmart copy...I've got Olicamp Space Savers, but can't locate one at the moment. They are nice because they have measuring marks stamped on them.
I spent a week of my vacation with my folks at their place on northern Lake Michigan. This is my dad's garage, or as I refer to it, "The Chamber of Lost Treasures".
Do you see what I see?
I'm feeling ornery, so I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to post the old stove I found here. You can see it in this picture, though.
Is what I circled in the picture what you found?
I have no idea if it is but I couldn't resist the mystery and that was the only thing that appeared to be "camp-stovish" to my untrained eye.
Could it be one of these?
@BetterNotBitterIsSurvival for the win!
Coleman GI Pocket stove
All the parts are there, including the intruction manual.
It looks like it's been fired up a few times, but otherwise it's in pristine condition.
So, @BalsamFur, what did I win?
I genuine BalsamFur pat on the back. Those ain't cheap.
Nice stove. Looks complete including the funnel and wrench/pot lifter which are often missing. The booklet is rare also. If it is a 520 Model it is WWII era. The 530 is post war, maybe for the forgotten war, Korea. I am sure Coleman kept military contracts after WW II plus there is alway a post market for ex GI’s for familiar equipment. I have had a couple, my son still uses one. They are a blast finance and were designed to heat a lot of water quickly and still good for that. Not much of a simmer cooking stove but a lot of heat fast no mater what that booklet says. Just check the gasket of the filler cap to make sure it is not dried up and although people say you can burn leaded gas in them, I would only recommend white gas, much cleaner burning. It has some value in its current condition to a collector.
That red Coleman lantern is worth fixing up too. Looks like the same era and should have the date on the bottom. Unless it is rare model they don’t carry a huge value but they are great lanterns. A lot of guys look for “birthday” lanterns made same month and year they were born. I prefer the single mantles over the double and the red paint over the green. Nicer light then the double in my mind.
I would love to go through that garage, I am sure there is more treasure to find.
Yeah, got a few old stoves. More in the garage but I am too lazy to go get them.
Of course I had to zoom in and study them. I have many of those but not in your quantity! Very impressive. I have come to appreciate the kerosene brassies the most as I am less likely to burn the house down with them or cause explosions. I take it the blow torch is to light them all.
I just never got too excited over the blowtorches. I have two that work but they just seem crude in comparison to the brass stoves. At one time or another, I have had every stove light up and burn (after replacing all the gaskets and NRV pips) and I took pictures of them running. I may want to sell them some day. Oh, and I guess you learned not to leave kero in the tank and close the air valve? Don’t ask how I know about this.
Thanks for the input, Marty. The instruction booklet refers to its military use in past tense, so this is a post-war civilian model. My dad said he paid about five bucks for it at a yard sale. I'll have to take a closer look at the lantern when I visit again.
Desk top have the odor of kerosene does it?
Not any more. I figured out what caused it real quick. The odor fades over time...
He could make more then his $5 off of evilbay but not enough to pay the mortgage. Just guessing but between $80-100+ but after fees and hastle it may be worth more as just a cool old stove. Same on the lantern. I have seen some crazy prices on them in antique shops but they are pretty common. All the parts for them are easy to get and they make a nice fishing light. Nice time you are there stir the garage and see what comes up! Never know.
Here’s my primus 41 love this thing! Gets used often
Here’s my Borde Benzin-Brenner
Here’s 1 if my Enders Baby 9063. This variant is my favorite if the different Enders babies.
I got a few Optimus 99’s. Great little stoves similar to the Optimus 8r in size. Same tank and burner actually!
Here’s my Enders Military 9061 just after I serviced it with new wick. It had a serious pulsing/surging effect. Now that’s gone and it’s powerful!
Here’s my Optimus 199. It has a titanium pot cover I made. Love this stove! Nice hot and silent! I call it the older big brother to the Optimus 99
Here’s a Phoebus 625. Cool stove
Here’s is a few of a couple MSR stoves a whisperlite and a dragonfly with BD silent damper cap.
Here’s an old optimus No.11 that works great!still solid!
I’ll post more if anyone wants more. That’s all for now. I guess I should do a group shot of my stoves someday. To LAZY And to DEPRESSED!
Always glad to see different stoves. The sheer variety of how many different designs is fascinating.
So many stoves, so much bacon, so little time.
Here’s a Coleman 530 GI Pocket stove it’s complete with wrench funnel and diffuser plate aswell as the canister pots had this one for years and found a couple more recently. Powerful beast!
Here’s my other 199. These came with a mini or midi pump but I rarely use it. I find for me it doesn’t really need it unless it’s winter temperatures.
Some random shots of my only old stove. Works nice but I don't usually take it out in the woods, although there is no reason not to!
I love that 71 I. That round aluminum case! I need to find one. I had an 80 and a newer71. Both were great but ended up with Svea 123’s instead. No regrets but I’d like that model 71 someday!