Semi-automatic shotgun shopping

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  1. Broke

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    Yeah, it is time. I have had 1 shotgun since I turned 18, a mossberg 500, it has never failed me. I have had a few others, a saiga that I converted from a sporter to a thumper, a maverick 88 I gave away, and that's it... I have decided I want a semi auto 12 gauge, high mag capacity, stupid, dumb, brick, mud puddle reliable. Given my many years of faithful service from my 500 I am looking at a mossberg 930.
    Anyone have any nuggets, nuggets of wisdom that is, to offer?

    My budget is sub $700, so no benelli or super high zoot marvels of marketing.
    Thanks
     
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    I've had a Remington 11-87 for several years and have no complaints.
     
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    Used Benelli M1 Super 90 20 ga...or 12ga if you must...

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    Ok, I had to.

    Rem 11-87
     
  5. Jonah L. Archer

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    The stoeger m3000, m3500 or m3k are excellent shotguns. I use an m3k for 3 gun competition and love it. They have good aftermarket support and are very reliable. JMO

    They are in the $500-$700 range.
     
  6. Broke

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    I hadnt looked at stoeger, thanks.
     
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    Not sure what your intention is for it, but I'm a big fan of my Mossberg 930 JM pro. High capacity and made for 3 gun so the recoil management is insane.
     
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    I am.looking hard at the 930 jm pro, what is your experience with regards to reliability?
     
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    As for intentions... skeet, yeet, yeti, rtic, grizzly, brown, grylis... 2 legged monsters and 4, zombies, skin walkers, chupacabra and golems. Mostly though, punching holes in paper and making clay into dust, tacticooly
     
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    I've only put a few hundred rounds through it, but the only reliability issue I had was my own fault. It isn't really a "fire off a bunch of rounds and forget about cleaning it" shotgun. Take the time to lube it up and take care of it, and it will work great for you. Plus you can fling a ton of lead downrange quick without killing your shoulder.
     
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    +1 on Stoeger. Excellent guns.
     
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    Or Beretta. Used in your range should be easy to find.

    I'd love either with a 18-20in barrel and screw in chokes.

    Sorta a "Mini Roadblocker"

    This is 700 BIN. So it's tight but doable.
    Look at what semi's they use in Argentina, they'll shoot more rounds in those guns in a few seasons, than most will shoot in their lifetime or two
    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/816075186
     
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    Most serious three gunners I have spoken to (who were not sponsored to use a certain weapon) all say the same thing they have used several different pistols and rifles but all stopped buying shotguns when they got their Benelli M series.

    I still haul around a Browning humpback. Since the 1980’s it’s never not gone bang when the trigger is pulled. Something I cannot say about any other semis I have owned, even my newest Beretta A-400. Admittedly the failures to fire have all been operator errors, but that is part of using semi’s with complicated controls, hitting magazine cutoffs, ghost loading, bolts that don’t go into battery or just plain shooting them empty because they are so quick. Once you get used to them they are reliable, but there is a learning curve.
     
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    Reading your op, stoeger is the first thing that popped into my mind.
     
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    I was in the Marine Corps when they adopted the M4. It is a sweet shotgun.
     
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    Stoeger makes great guns for the money. Shop around. I see m3000 models on sale for around $400 frequently.
     
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    My preference would be a Benelli M2 (recoil operated), but that exceeds your budget. That Saiga clone coupled with a drum magazine could be a lot of fun!

    My most often carried and shot shotgun doesn't fit your bill, but I wanted something light, fast, and dead reliable. Its a 20" Baikal 12ga that gets fed 1oz roundballs mostly. Trust me, a 1oz roundball at 1300fps is devastating. Too, I sometimes have a ball in one barrel and buck in the other, so can choose instantly by grabbing one trigger or the other.
     
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    I had a Saiga years ago, converted it with a new trunion, trigger group, etc. It was a lot of fun, but for me the appeal of a shotgun is all you need is ammo, no magazine to swap or carry, fewer controls to operate etc.
    Having said that, the mag fed 590 looks pretty neat... lol!
     
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    I'd go with the Mossberg 930 if not a used good deal Benelli.
     
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    The Beretta 1301, Benelli M2 and FN SLP are the best choices and all are worth the money.

    I prefer a Rem 870 over less expensive semiauto shotguns.

    Maybe you can find a used good condition Beretta 390 with a 24 inch barrel - one of berettas best shotgun designs of all time.
     
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    My thinking always includes the memory of how difficult shotgun shooting via repeaters has been in the past. While I won't delve into the myriad problems of shotgun ammunition through Korean War, I will mention that the first reliable semiautomatic shotgun was Browning's Automatic-5, circa 1905. It successfully accepted waxed paper black powder ammunition as well as everything through brass military ammunition. It was the shotgun used by British SAS during the Malayan - that is, Indonesian - insurgency of the late 1940s through mid-1950s.

    While it, and its Remington- and Savage-licensed copies, have been out of production for more than a decade (Auto-5), huge numbers were manufactured. Price for one in NRA Very Good-Excellent would be within your price range.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Thinking of a 11-87, 20 ga 26" barrel, wood stock. I have a 870 tactical that I shot twice and probably really don't need. So maybe a trade in is in order.
     
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    Do like I did and pick up a used Beretta 1201 FP and add a Benelli M4 stock .
    $500 for the gun and $120 for the stock. Or one for a Benelli M1 will fit. 20190523_133135.jpg
     
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    I really love the old humpback Browning Auto-5. There's also a copy that was made by Savage, maybe the Model 720.
     
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    I have a benelli M2 and would bet my life on it. To buy New it’s out of your budget but maybe you can find a used one closer to your $.
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    I've been thinking about cutting my Benelli SBE down to 18 in. But I don't think I'll be able to have it rethreaded for the chokes:( Has a 26in barrel now and I don't use it cause I find it unwieldy in the brush I hunt.
     
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    There is a number of companies who offer threaded chokes especially for thin wall barrels. Just depends upon the depth of your pockets. :p:D;)

    CW
     
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    I've had my CZ712 Utility for almost 10 years and it has never failed to cycle any thing I've fed it from bird-shot to slugs.

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    Beretta 1301 Tactical G2 has optima HP chokes, turns it into a turkey or deer gun. Light and reliable.
     
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    Ok for steel shot? Last shotgun I had work done (model 12) the Smith said I could have thinwall tubes but they'd be a NoGo for steel.
     
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    Didnt read that as a requirement. :( You are correct all I know of are not approved for steel.

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