Skookum Bushtool

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  1. outsyder

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    Guys,

    I emailed in and got my name down for a BT, (long been my want and had a couple of clones but thought as the list was reputably long……)

    I have not received any confirmation and that was a couple of weeks ago, does anyone know if this is normal?

    TIA
     
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    Yep, pretty normal. He will get back to you though.
     
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    By the time you get your Skookum, you'll have forgotten that you'd ordered it.

    I had a bushtool, but was never impressed much with it. I gave it away here on BCUSA a few years ago. I've found that the Matt Paul (MP Knives) 'Drifter' is a much better knife for the money. The Skookum Bushtool's sheath was, IMHO, crap. I think that the Skookum relied more on the weird name than on the quality.

    Steve
     
  4. outsyder

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    Thanks guys,

    Always wanted one, had a couple of clones and figured as the list is long then I'd be happy to wait.

    I always find the opinions on knives are VERY subjective so I'm happy to take my chance!
     
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    If you get it in 4 years and don't like it, you can easily sell it for more than you paid!
     
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    I emailed him over 2 months ago no reply. But the rumor is he is very busy lol
     
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    It took Rod about a month or so to get back to me but he did. I was also missing some information on my email and he got back to me again to fix that. He seems like a real straight shooter.
     
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    I wonder how many times this exact thread has played out over the years LOL.
     
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    I've owned a SKB for quite a few years. It is the bushcraft knife that I use as a benchmark to measure all others. I couldn't tell you how many different knives I've either owned or tested for the youtube channel and the SKB is still my favorite. Rod can take quite a while to respond, but as the others have said, he will respond. Settle in and rest assured that you will be most satisfied when your knife finally arrives.
     
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    I have one without the pommel plate,it has the most comfortable handle of any other bushcraft knife I have ever owned.You will not be disapointed.
     
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    It's been two months with no reply I hope I get one soon
     
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    Isn't the wait for these like two years?


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    I have had two SBT. They are nice blades, Rod seems like a stand up guy.
    Personally the pommel plate makes the knife what it is. Sexy. His leather is good but the sheath design sucks.

    With that said Brian Sargent makes a very similar style knife. Model 3.
    His blades can be had for about half the cost and the leather that he supplies with them is the best that I have seen and it is all about functionality. I think his grip is a bit thicker but super comfortable, better than the SBT.

    Check him out he has a good product that is much easier to obtain.
     
  14. Mr. Tettnanger

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    It is closer to four years now.
     
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    For those of you guys that have SBT. While you where on the list did you ever check in. I have been on for about 30 months and have not heard anything. Should i reach out.
     
  16. Mr. Tettnanger

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    I did not check in. When it is ready he will contact you. I'd give it 36-48 months.
     
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    He never got back to me and the world didn't end. I can buy lots of great knives at any time without waiting years.
     
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    If people are willing to wait that long then it's definitely worth it!


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    I think I've been on the list for a year now. He responded to me promptly when I asked him if I was placed on the list.

    Edit: I've been on the list 1 year and 8 days as of today
     
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    i have been on his list for over 4 yrs. he doesn't answer emails and i have sent a few:) he did tell me this spring that i was still on his list and he would be starting on my knife in a few weeks, i guess that didn't work out. i am kind of frustrated and would not recommend anyone ordering from him till he starts answering his mail.
     
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    ...I placed an order for a SBT over a year ago...a couple day's later he replied thanking me for the order, and also told me at that time there was a 35.00 increase in price and a 30 month waiting list.:(
     
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    Dang Steve, I think you get banned for that. What's your opinion of the Tracker?

    That must be one helluva knife to sign up and wait 4 years with no word from the maker and then pay more than I paid for my first car.
     
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    You paid less than $265 for your first car?
     
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    I have heard 2 to 4 years. I would lose interest and forget in that time.

    GL

    Cheers
     
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    No. About $400. Which is less than what I see folks reselling these for. I think I understand now.
     
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    I've bought a few second hand, and I've been waiting 2+ years for the one I ordered direct.

    I placed the order, he emailed me back at some point. He never asked for money, but when he emails me my knife is ready I'll gladly pay him.

    The end.
     
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    Mine took 42 months and 3 days. I sent him one email at the 40 month mark just to see if I was on the list and I didn't get a response. Two months later he said it was ready and I sent the payment. It arrived 3 days later. It's a terrific knife. I couldn't be happier. I like the sheath personally. 3.5 years is a very long wait, but I've bought, used and enjoyed many more knives in that time. Just place your order and go about your way. Good things come home to wait.
     
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    I emailed earlier this year and never heard back. I think I emailed a couple years ago but also never heard back.

    I cloned his sheath design for another knife that I have and I like it a lot.

    If I ever get an email saying "your knife is ready" I'll be surprised, in a good way!
     
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    Seems like this maker need to work on his customer service. It does not matter how busy you are, emails should be answered every day or two. That is how I ran my internet based blacksmith and machine shop years ago. Despite how many hours I put in during the day I would always answer emails in the evening. Customer service can make or break you as a small maker.
     
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    I ageee. I updated my order and am buying several so I have options when I get them.

    But the lack of communication if horrible. The wait is bad enough but communication would make it a lot better.
     
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    ....I placed my Skookum order 11/29 2016....a couple weeks later he acknowledged my order....and that is the last I heard from him....although I have emailed him a few times, no response.
     
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    He responded to you? I have sent my order in twice to confirm and that was months before yours. That's crazy. I need to try and contact him.
     
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    I've had a few Skookum's...and wasn't satisfied with the fit and finish...if you want a SBT style knife try a Sargent Edged Tools M3....damn near perfection.:42:
     
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    ^^^^^This^^^^^

    I thought I wanted to play this game.

    Many, many, months ago, I sent an email with some questions. Not an order. Just some questions prior to ordering.

    Then, I waited patiently. Nothing. Waited a few more months, still nothing. Even today, nothing.

    He may be a great person, he may be a great knifemaker. I'm not impressed with his business model. If you're that busy, close your books until you get caught up.

    I make my living from taking care of customers. So I'm very unimpressed.

    My infatuation with the SBT has come and gone. Not because of the knife, but because of the maker.

    Life is too short.
    LV
     
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    ^^^AGREED 100%^^^

    I don't dig his approach...at all. I've owned maybe a dozen or more of his knives. They are nice, well built knives. They are not magical. They cut. I have 3-4 on order. When they come due, if they come do, I'll probably buy them, keep one and sell the others to cover the one that I am keeping and I'll move on. I've lost my love for scandi blades.

    The only saving grace is that I don't have any money on the line. None. And that is the problem and the solution. Nothing lost, nothing gained. Meh.....I'm over the Skookum Bushtool!
     
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    Don't other people make them as good or better?
     
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    Other than Brian Sargent, I'd say that people making Skookum-style knives must be somewhat cursed. Rod can't/won't respond to email inquiries and is running half a decade (give-or-take) for his production schedule, and Joe at Blackfeather apparently had his life shaken up and isn't doing much better with regards to orders. I ended up buying a Blackfeather second-hand on here and LOVE it, but haven't been able to get a response from Joe with regards to cancelling my existing order (that he didn't fill in his own timeframe) and getting my deposit back. As much as I love my Bushtool, I wouldn't send anyone to Blackfeather because of the poor customer service experience I've had with Joe. <shrug> Just my $0.02.
     
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    The dreaded "Herd Mentality"
     
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    I have owned the Tracker but sold it to a Forum member.

    I purchased the Tracker from Tops, I stripped it of it's black coating then buffed the blade with 4-0 steel wool to give it a satin finish.

    Using it during a camp out, prepping firewood, preparing veggies and meat for the meals, etc. While it functioned very well, I had to conclude that a knife like a Kephart, MP Drifter or even the Condor Woodlore would have accomplished each task just as easy, if not easier.

    I think part of the 'allure' of the Tracker lies in it's unique blade design. It's a jack of all trades, but master of none... except for making curls for tinder. Using the forward curve of the 'spokeshave' portion of the blade is great for this.

    In over 50 years of hunting and camping, I have only once found the need to use curls like these as tinder for a fire. In that instance, I was just being lazy rather than out of necessity.

    I decided to go back to basics with my knife choices and have been incredibly happy with my MP Drifter.

    Steve
     
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  41. House of Horst

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    Update on my Blackfeather issue...

    I FINALLY got refunded my deposit for a Bushtool from Joe/Blackfeather Knives. He messaged me before Christmas to let me know it would be about two weeks before he could refund me. Six weeks later, still no refund. I start posting on his page... get a private message, "I'll refund you [this past Friday]". Friday came and went. I sent him a PayPal invoice. Finally got refunded yesterday. I'm happy this is over with.

    I've said it before, I LOVE my Bushtool from Joe/Blackfeather Knives. It's a freaking great blade that performs well and feels great in hand. But I'll NEVER recommend ANYONE order anything from him or pay for a knife unless it's something he has in hand, already made, and is available to ship right now. He's impossible to deal with.
     
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    Glad that mess is over for you.
     
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    You and me both. I've never had to deal with anything like that with a maker of anything before. No clue how he does business that way. <shrug>
     
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    But not for me.............. :(
     
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    I put into the list for an SBT, at least I think so, I can wait, maybe find one on line, already have one in 01, wanting to try one 3V, no money down, no loss, maybe die before it shows up, been watching for a SET M3 in 3V also, but wanted to have comparable blades in the two steel just to see the differences with the steels....no magic knives out there.....unless they glow when orcs are nearby....and I ain't see one like that outside the movies.......so....
     
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    Had the same thing to happen to me from about a year and a half ago. I ordered the feral woodcrafter and paid in full. It was supposed to be done in 2 or 3 months if I remember correctly. Well a year went by and I said nothing to him because I know how these things go. I've since got an even heat oven and make my own. Saw him at blade show and asked how he had time to make all those for sale. A week or 2 went by and I got mine in the mail. Great knife but I can't look at it for what it is now. I really hated to post anything about it because I know how knife making is and how problems can creep up, but people have a right to know what to expect.
     
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    You know, I can handle the fact that folks have issues. We all do. And sometimes they are serious issues. I get that.

    But that Paypal button works both ways. If you're in deep with personal issues. I get that. Don't have time to make the knife, I get that too.

    Just refund my money, shoot me a note saying you're running behind, and when you get caught up, you'd really like to build me a knife. I'd be fine with that.

    In my mind, taking a person's money, and promising a delivery date. Then not coming anywhere near that date is stealing. Plain and simple.

    If you paid a contractor to put a new roof on your house in June. And he promised he'd have it done by the end of August. And still hadn't showed up 10 moths later. Then wasn't returning your calls. You'd take him to court.

    In construction where materials can be huge. Folks usually ask for one third up front. And the rest upon completion of the job.

    Paying for the whole project up front is a recipe for disaster. If the guy has all your money, where is the incentive for him to finish the job, or even start it for that matter.

    I went through this a few years ago. I was actually at the point of buying a plane ticket to go get my money back. I would have lost money.

    But I have a very defined sense of right and wrong. Things like this eat away at me. But one last email, explaining my intent, and like magic. The next day my PayPal balance was much higher.

    Life is too short.

    This is certainly a brave new world. But I ain't living in it. If a maker won't even talk to me about his knife. Frankly, he can keep it.

    To be fair. They aren't all like this.
    Lucas Forge has been a pleasure to deal with, as has Ed Martin. They will talk to you. Answer any questions you may have. And in general, do a very professional job.
     
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    I am having the same issues with Joe at blackfeather. I have a few knives ordered and deposits were sent. But no communication. I want the knives but I need some communication on when those k Ives will come. I'm waiting till the end of March then requesting a refund. I already Paypal to the incipient a while,ago.

    I get we all go through issues. But if he closed shop then his sites should be down and ordering not allowed.
     
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    When was your order(s) placed?
     
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    Late summer 2017
     

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