Spring Rendevous

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  1. redneckron

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    For your consideration: Coyote Ron, Gila Dog and I met on Jan 20 to discuss some possible Spring Rendezvous locations. There is a camp ground located on the Magdalena Ranger district of the Cibola National Forest called Water Canyon https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/cibola/recarea/?recid=64128 . The location is south of Highway 60 between Socorro and Magedlena NM.

    This looks to be a good location to possibly have a family friendly rendezvous. The location has tent and camper sites with Vault toilets. The campground opens up in March. The finer details can't be ironed out because of a GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. What are your thoughts of the location and possible dates you can attend in April/May?

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    Unfortunately, the site is currently under maintenance. I will check back later.
     
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    I just checked the link and it is working now. You are right and I did check link and it wasn't working but I bet the USFS found money for the money for the electric bill to run the server. LOL!!!!
     
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    Coyote Ron and I are going to do a day trip to check out the campground next week. There any questions you want us to find out about the possible Spring Rendezvous location?
     
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    If you guys decide to try and find the campsite I recommended on the road to Springtime campground here's a couple of pics of that campsite. It will be a couple of miles in after you've reached the Cibola Nat Forest land. It's off a little dirt road that takes off to the LEFT (south) of the main road. To find the campsite, the landmark to watch for are those hills with the cliffs. No facilities, but there's plenty of room for camping. I would recommend that redneckron brings his 4 wheeler and you guys go for a ride in that area. Lots of little roads to explore. The main problem with the Water Canyon campground is that it's not very big, and being so close to ABQ it could get crowded on weekends.

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    Sources of water, if any? Feasibility for a hammock set up.
     
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    How much distance do you need between anchor points to put up your hammock set up?
     
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    I don't know about Water Canyon for hammocks, but the on-the-way-to-Springtime camp has lots of oak and juniper trees with good hammock hanging branches. I've used my truck as one tree and a real tree for the other on occasion. According to the link redneckron provided, Water Canyon has no drinking water available. The other place does not either. My basic policy when camping in NM is to bring my water with me. Any place that has drinking water (or any kind of water) is usually really crowded on weekends.
     
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    We'll take lots of picks and post with gps coords. Using the gps coords I may be able to capture and post a map with the various candidate locations. We will keep an eye out for hammock friendly locations, tent sites, fire sites, etc.

    Coyote Ron
     
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    15-25 ft would be ideal
     
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    Will do!!
     
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    My recommendation for your scouting trip would be to go check out Water Canyon first. Then go thru Magdalena to 107 south. Take that about 12 mi, and hit FR 330 going west it will take you to Rosedale, an old mining operation. There could be some nice campsites along that road and it's an interesting place to explore. The good places to camp already have fire rings and such. They are mostly used by hunters and firewood cutters. No facilties, bring your own water, passenger cars not wise. But they should have a flat area for camping, and firewood not too far away. Then you could continue down 107, hit I-25 and go to the other campsite recommended above. I think we marked your map to show you how to find that road. It's FR225 west off of old Highway 1 south, running parallel to I-25. You can get on #1 at the truck stop exit near where 107 connects to I-25. I hope you guys find some nice places and post us some pics.
     
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    We need squirrels!!! Lots of squirrels!
     
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    Funny
     
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    @redneckron and I went up to the Water Canyon campground. It is a very nice area with family friendly access and facilities.

    As a teaser, I will post a few pictures first of the scenery and then in later posts of the camp-sites and the road conditions. (I'll include a detailed map as well).

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    The trees are Pinyon, Alligator Juniper, and Gambel Oak with a few Ponderosa thrown in for seasoning. Up high there appear to be Aspen with their leaves still on. Many of the oak trees still had leaves. They have not gotten much in the way of cold and probably not much in the way of moisture. Unless some snow/rain happens this spring it will be awfully dry by April/May.

    Coyote Ron
     
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    Now about the access.

    The road is paved all the way to the edge of the campground. I'm guessing that during the busy season this area gets a fair amount of traffic from Socorro.
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    The indiviual campsites are pretty easy to reach. Each has a picnic table and a fireplace. They are plenty large but there is quite a bit of rock and some care will be needed to find a good tent site.

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    There appear to be plenty of places to pitch a hammock.
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    There are vault toilets at all of the campground areas that were well maintained and clean. But no water anywhere.
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    The group campground has a nice common shelter.
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    And a common fire area.
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    The access to the group campground has one place where it curves back and forth up a hill (not quite "switchbacks.") and has one short but fairly steep pull. It is a bit narrow in places. It should be fine for shorter trailers but could present some challenges to a longer trailer.

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    Coyote Ron
     
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    The gambel oak buds in your area are already popping? That's not a good sign...
     
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    :( Yeah, everything else seems to have given up on winter too.

    Coyote Ron
     
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    Here is something that @redneckron and I both found meaningful. At one of the campsites there was a very nice glass chess set with a hand-written note under it.

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    The note said:
    I give this back
    to the Universe
    from which it came
    (Tags You're it)

    In loving memory of Karen Louise Boje

    Born - Anchorage, Alask
    9-8-1959

    Died - Deming, New Mexico
    9-8-2017

    Gone back to wherever
    spirits such as hers
    go back to

    October 2014, On this table
    she spanked my azz
    at chess, on this board.

    There was an email address to acknowledge receipt. Ron and I left the chess set but played a game in honor of Karen. (I lost brilliantly.)
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    We both thought this was a very thoughtful and respectful way to honor a friend and that Karen must have been someone very special.

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    Ron Thanks for posting the pics and sharing meaningful thoughts.
     
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    We could do some show and tell and maybe a little "classroom" there also under that pavilion!
     
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    ^I like the idea. Everyone can pick a topic, something new and untried by that person, and explain what worked, what didn't work, and so on.
     
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    What dates in April does everyone think they could show up? I should be good around April 26-29. I might try a little turkey hunting since season opens up on April 15-been a while.
     
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    The weekend of the 27th and 28th probably isn't good for me. The Colorado-Wyoming Society of American Foresters convention is that weekend in Ignacio, CO. Might not be too late to back out, but I'd like to go all the same.

    I'm good all the other weekends in April.
     
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    What April weekends are good everyone else?
     
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    I'm pretty well open.

    Coyote Ron
     
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    For me the 1st week of April is already packed with appointments. Other than that, you guys just come up with something and I'll try to show up.
     
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    Waiting to hear back about *another* work conference in April. I may have to miss this one :(
     
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    How about the weekend of April 12-15?

    Celebrate Tax day/weekend camping?
     
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    I'm not sure "celebrate" is exactly the right word. :mad:
     
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    I guess it is matter of perspective: getting over the pain of tax day and celebrate putting it behind you is a good thing. Don't let my happy demeanor fool you-I really don't like paying taxes because of headaches and pain it causes me every year, over and over and over and over and over. Sorry for the rant. Time to party the tax blues away!!
     
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    It looks like we have a date. April 12-15 weekend!! Let us plan towards that weekend at the Water Canyon CampGround.

    Whisperinthepine-You going to be able to make it on those days?
     
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    That date might be possible. I will double check. :D
     
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    I do suggest that you check out this burger place in San Antonio NM which is down the road a ways 6 miles or so from the turn off in Socorro. Bring your taste buds because it is good.


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    This is the sign directing you to the turn off to Water Canyon Campground if you would like to check it out.

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    That weekend is my birthday trip up to Santa Fe for an event. Y'all have fun and take plenty of pictures.
     
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    April 14 I can't make it. Fire dept training 2nd Saturday of every month. April 7 is out too. Glenwood kite festival. But the last 2 weeks are open.
     
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    I was hoping you would show up Gila Dog...
     
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    It looks like the group will be small and hope other show up. Kimber mentioned about knowledge sharing. What do you think about that? Does anybody have chest set or some games? Jell why not. I am going to assume the chest set will be gone and it would be fun to somethings like that. I do have the stuff to play cribbage but don't know how to play-I am dying to learn how to play.
     
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    I do play cribbage and will also bring my board. I can teach if anyone wants to learn.

    Coyote Ron
     
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    I probably won't make it that weekend because of fire training. But there are 51 other weekends in the year, so if any of you want to meet up for camp out and to explore some of the country, just let me know. I come that direction almost every month.
     
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    Although we are trying to plan some gatherings way in advance for those that have to request time off far in advance the is lots of opportunity for more impromptu trips.

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    There is also something a little interesting just past the camp ground. I am interested exploring location and road going up there. It could be very interesting.. 20180202_102338.jpg
     
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    I can teach cribbage also.
     
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    Nice-maybe a little cribbage playing going on.
     
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    Turkey season starts April 15 and might do a little spotting, tracking and some turkey talking
     
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    You're joking, but I was working for the forest service as a seasonal field tech a few years back, and they set us up in a local bunkhouse at the edge of the forest. Came back one day, and a notice from local utilities company was posted on the door that service would be cut off due to non-payment. We reported it to our supervisor. Next day, no power! Turns out some Forest Service employee in the Midwest was responsible for coordinating all such utility payments for the Forest Service. He retired, went on vacation, or something like that, but he didn't pass on his responsibilities to anyone. All outside utility payments for national forests simply stopped going out when he left! Utilities were cut off at locations all over! I guess the forest service passed on that job duty to someone else once they figured it out, because the payments were made and utilities restored. Nothing but the best in government work...
     
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    Of course, I am joking but from your experience it looks it could be the truth. LOL!!!
     
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    I got a Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM) for the Magdalena Ranger District and it shows the camping corridors. Time is getting close and I have very little time to get away. So, I am thinking a morning trip to Water Canyon camping area on March 17 to check out the camping corridors. I know it is St Patrick's day but this will be a morning trip with a lot of left over time for Green Beer with Corn Beef and cabbage back at home or bar.
     
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    I am planning on attending. I think my girlfriend might come too, we'll have a dog in tow if that's alright.

    She's shy at first, but generally warms up quickly. She's a golden collie.

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