WTS - Swiss Army Messkits & Utensils

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  1. hicountry

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    Swiss Army Fork & Spoon combo
    Stainless steel snap together
    has Swiss stampings 90's vintage.
    6.75" length when closed.

    $7.50
    2 or more sets = $6 each.


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    Swiss Army vintage Mess kit with leather cavalry case.
    The Swiss call these "gamelles" -- they're the best in Euro messkits.
    2-piece WW2 aluminum cook set dark grey color
    Fork & spoon utensil combo included.
    Leather strap for saddle mount or other.
    Leather carrier has some storage marks.
    $79 plus shipping

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    Stamping on the shoulder carrier
    1968 vintage
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    Reverse side of leather carrier
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    Stamp on main gamelle :
    1942 vintage
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    Stamp on the lid at the handle :
    1942 vintage
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    Stamp on the inner bowl
    1992 vintage (I robbed it from a newer set, the original was severely damaged)
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    Stamp on the fork/spoon combo
    1988 vintage
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  2. Hawaii

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    Do you have any in stainless steel?
     
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    hicountry Blue Granite Bushcraft Vendor

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    Sorry, this is the only one I found.
    Swiss mess kits are all aluminum.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    You might want to double check that kit. It looks an awful lot like a German kit to me. I have several of the Swedish mess kits and they look nothing like this.

    The one on the right is a Swedish kit and the left ones a German kit. I'm very curious, does yours have any markings on it? Would like to know if it's an even earlier model then the ones I have. Thanks. Screenshot_20170606-020226.png
     
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    What country are we talking about here, Sweden or Switzerland ?
     
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    I agree that the cook kit portion looks to be German, but I have never seen the leather carrier in either countries service. I really like the leather carrier and would be interested if you wish to separate the kit. Nice find!
     
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    After looking at the pics again, there is some sort of stamp near the belt hole. Is it possible to get a close up of the stamp so I can try and figure out where the leather came from?
     
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    No, that sure looks Swiss to me... The Swiss messkit has an oval cut out on the handle and should have a mark right above it with the manufacturer. Here is a picture of a Swiss messkit next to a German messkit... [​IMG]
     
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    It's Swiss. The newer ones are black, this early one is OD Green, dated 1942.
    It does resemble the German and Swedish in the concept only.
    The leather holder is for saddle carry.
    It is a cavalry set-up.

    The Swiss always blame the Germans for copying their designs, such as the Mauser, which is a copy of the K-31 Mousqueton, minus the patented rifling.
    Most of the Swiss manufacturing is done in the German part of Switzerland, so the stampings are in German, this causes more confusion.
    I'll look for markings.
     
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    It is definately a Swiss M20 Gamelle in my opinion. I'm thinking the carrier is used with a pack or riding saddle.

    Very similar in details is the Norwegian version...only not as tall.
     
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    I stand corrected, it did look to be German until I saw the side by side picture. I really need to find one of these leather carriers. I am OCD when it comes to mess kits and now I am off to find the next bit of kit that I really don't need but want so bad.
     
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    In response to Spork, Vilke, Injun and others :

    I posted the stamping above with the original images.
    It is 100% Swiss as you can see.

    You wonder why the carrier is for cavalry in 1968 ?
    Besides mounted troops, the Swiss alpine troops used mule teams, still the proven way to haul gear in the crazy steep outposts in the Swiss Alps,
    they're stubborn mountain people, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
    Mules will go where vehicles can't.

    If the inner bowl was pristine and 1942 vintage this would be worth $100's.
    Now it is perfect condition ready for some serious use.
    Just some slight gashes in the lid, not bad for 1942 !

    I'll throw in some more vintage goodies to help the deal.
    Price is my cost.
    Just trying to serve the great people who hang out here and who support my vendor forum.
     
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    I saw most of this tack and gear at the warehouses in Switzerland when I was over there.
    It would be expensive to ship.

    It could be made here with comparable materials, the designs are impressive.
    But that Sig Sauer ... :14:
     
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    That carrier is insane.. never seen one of those before.

    This swiss kits are as rare as hens teeth.. Going to have to consider snagging this one ;)
     
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    hicountry Blue Granite Bushcraft Vendor

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    I'm considering reasonable offers.
    This awesome kit needs a good home.
     
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    This Swiss do aluminum like nobody else. Way different than your average surplus fare.

    Wish I wasn't saving up for something else of yours ;) maybe this will still be around in a couple days after my overtime.
     
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    You got me Robert..

    I'll take it via PM, as per our earlier discussion.

    Your killing me smalls!
     
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    hicountry Blue Granite Bushcraft Vendor

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    Back in stock
     
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    PM sent on one mess kit with cover. My OCD has kicked in again...
     
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    hicountry Blue Granite Bushcraft Vendor

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    One kit sold to @Vilke, 2 remaining.
    Thanks !
     
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    price lowered on fork & spoon set !
     
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    Do you have quite a few of these fork & spoons sets.
     
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    These are amazing pieces of kit at an extremely fair price. Rare too.

    The leather bit even makes a nice display piece at the house ;) Bump for awesome deals!
     
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    Yes, pretty decent quantity.
    Thanks !
     
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    Some members were recently asking where to get these, grab em while you can!
     
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    Mine arrived Friday but I just now arrived back home to open the box. Oh my gosh, this is beautiful! It looks like it is ready to be issued. The leather looks great and the kit was in great shape. I should have ordered a few more of the fork and spoon sets as they were perfect for just about any mess kit. These cavalery mess kits are Uber rare and it will be a nice addition to the collection. Thanks a lot!
     
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    Nice !
    Glad you appreciate this unique Swiss gear.
    There are plenty of utensil combos in stock !
    Thanks again.
     
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    @hicountry Just got my order in...the Swiss utensils are awesome. One now has a home in my Pygmy Falcon kit alongside a SAK Woodsman and M84 canteens. The shorter handles are just right to fit in a pen slot.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I will take 2 sets of thr utensil combos.
     
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    Messkits are gone so I changed the title.
    Thanks for looking !
     
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    These utensils are the perfect camping combo.

    I might have to buy more on sheer principle.. They don't come up that often.
     
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    Good quality stainless steel utensils. I got one for my mess kit and one for the office. Maybe I'll save some plastic from going into the landfill now!
     
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    Still have good quantities of these awesome Swiss tools !
     
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    Messkits are back in stock in limited supply.
     
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    Do the utensils come with a knife?
     
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    Swiss Soldiers were issued a Swiss Army knife with these utensils
     
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    Nope, sorry.
    Not sure what they would be issued in 1944.
     
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    Do you know if a regular stainless Swedish messkit will fit in that leather saddle carrier?
     
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    Maybe.
    You'd have to put Swiss and Swedish mess kits side by side to see for sure.
    Or trace out the foot print of the Swedish and take measurements.
     
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    Do you have utensils or complete kits in stock?
     

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