Swiss Army Trekker

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  1. batmanacw

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    I just got a new SAK Trekker to go with my Outrider. I thought it would be a more comfortable and narrow bushcraft tool compared to my Outrider, which is my current favorite.

    Over all the knife is really nice. The blade is the same kind of perfection that all the 111mm knives have. I call them spear points but there might be a better description. Liner locking.

    The saw is awesome. Not much to say. Extremely effective for the size.

    The locking flat blade screwdriver is thick and stiff. Much more than a standard SAK flat blade. It's an impressive tool.

    My only complaint is the liner lock for the main blade.

    If you position your finger centered over the liner lock/blade intersection it is very comfortable. This position is closer to the choil and actually beneficial for control.

    You cannot comfortably move your fingers back from that spot unless you move back a good 3/4". The Outrider is comfortable anywhere on the grip.

    My index finger ends up by the choil and the rest end up around the formal grip area.

    When I first felt the knife I immediately didn't like it. Once I actually used it to carve some notches and I got the knife in the right position the bump from the liner lock all but disappeared.

    Be prepared if you buy this knife that you may not like it for this reason. The Outrider, Hercules, and Rucksack do not have the liner lock so they won't have the same issue. Fair warning.

    I like it just fine.

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    You can clearly see the protruding liner lock in this picture.

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    I might pick up the Rucksack sometime but the Trekker is a nice tool. Already installed my firefly in it.
     
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    I used to have an Outrider years ago. It was like a Huntsman on steroids.

    I just picked up a Hercules from the trade blanket. It's basically an Outrider with a pliers. I'm going to try it as my bushcraft folder.
     
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    I like the Outrider too as well and feel it is the best bushcraft knife since it basically has only the tools one needs and not alot of extra's (ie Saw, lock blade and scissor's) I do also like the Hercules and Workchamp but they are pretty thick/bigger. I just don't care for the liner lock models and prefer the back lock.
     
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    I have several SAK's, but if I could only have one, it would be my Trekker.
     
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    I will simply state that my original Trekker (GAK/SAK plus tweezers/toothpick and non-rubber scales) is among the finest and toughest multitools ever made by Victorinox, and only downside is bulk, which cannot be helped, given all the stout and efficient tooling it holds. Mine always is handy, ready to go, even if normally the actual pocket of the day knife sans clip is smaller.

    It was a legal lifesaver daily driver in NYC as for a large unflickable one-hand, locking pocket knife, standing in for the quite flickable and illegal Spydercos...
     
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    Are the saw and blade of the Trekker longer than the saw and blade of the Farmer?
     
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    Yes.

    The saw is 89mm on the 111mm SAKs, 100mm on the 130mm, 73mm on the 91 and 93mm.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Trekker / Outrider saw next to the Rangergrip 78 saw.

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    As of this year all 111mm SAK's are liner lock. The slide Lock's have been discontinued.
     
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    I better get a Hercules and Rucksack before they change them.
     
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    They still make most of the models just as of 2018 they are all liner lock.
     
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    Wow...quite a difference! Looks like the teeth on the Rangergrip are bigger too.
     
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    I have the RangerGrip 79 and my buddy has the OHT. We’re always passing them back and forth trying to decide which is better. It’s a tossup but I do prefer the feel in the hand of the OHT.
     
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    Do you think the longer saw of the RangerGrip is noticeably better than the Trekker saw? Worth the extra length and weight?
     
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    And which cuts better?

     
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    The saws are almost identical except 11mm longer for the 78.
     
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    He got the serrated version, against my advice. So, kinda apples and oranges. Just judging my RangerGrip on its own, I’d say it excels at food prep and is competent at everything else. So-so at carving.

    I believe Gary and I would both give the RangerGrip a clear nod on the saw. Worth it.
     
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    At most, the teeth on my Rangergrip might be every so slightly deeper cut. Same pitch. Same thickness. If there is any difference it could be explained by a few thousandths difference in the set up of the machine that did the grinding. I.E. human error. They are extremely close to the same.

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    The only "clear advantage" the Rangergrip has is 11 more mm.

    I figured it out. The teeth on one side of my Rangergrip saw are bigger than the other.
     
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    I would call a 12% increase a significant difference.

    And, I consider the RG’s placement of the saw in the center layer a clear advantage.

    I am not dissing or pissing on the OHT in any way. I think it’s a terrific knife and a very viable one-tool option.
     
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    It's not different. The saw on the Rangergrip is ground off to one side. The visible differences are simply a defect.
     
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    I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. :(

    I’m just talking about length of the blade and which layer on the knife it is placed in. I know diddly squat about their respective tooth heights and pitches.
     
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    Also I should say that I think ALL the Vic saws are terrific... amazingly efficient for their size and under appreciated by people who haven’t used them.

    And they’re not just for campers and bushcrafters.

    And the saw layer is the thinnest of all SAK layers, so you can pick up a tremendous amount of additional capability for very little additional pocket bulk.
     
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    Oh!

    The extra length is nice.

    The saws all seem to be basically the same for pitch and tooth count.

    The saw on the Rangergrip and Outrider are closer to the center. The Trekker is off to one side.
     
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    Me too - although it looks like I'm going have to give that Rangergrip a try!
     
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    I just finished up carving quite a few notches in a dry, hard maple branch. I have a steeper grind than my classic bushcraft knives because of the slightly softer steel and it has worked out beyond my expectations. I just use a bit different approach angles and it cuts plenty deep and curls a chip super nice. Glassy smooth cuts from the mirror polished edge. The edge retention has been far better than I expected. Zero damage and the blade is still shaving sharp all the way down.

    The liner lock bump I expected to be an issue just isn't. No hot spots after lots of heavy cuts. I find the Trekker to be surprisingly comfortable. I really don't know what else to say. I'm very pleased with it.

    The point on the standard Trekker is better than the one hand Trekker. Also it is easier to put your thumb on the back of the blade and assist with your off hand without the hole bump.

    I am thinking about the non-one hand version of the Rangergrip.
     
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    They are awesome drywall cutters when doing electric work
     
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    You can use the awl to get a hole going in the middle of siding or plywood and then the saw to make a starter cut to get a reciprocating saw going.
     
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    I think one is a Rucksack or Adventurer, it has a lock on the handle scale to release the blade, has the saw, but I think a philips screwdriver.
     
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    Thanks, I think mine is a Rucksack. As a matter of fact, I also have the Adventurer, I got the
    Rucksack because it had the saw. Memory is not what it used to be. I am a candidate for
    prevagen but I keep forgetting to get it at the market after work. :D
     
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    Oh looks like this is what I want for Christmas. Nice looking knives
     
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    If the Outrider — which has about the best toolset of any large SAK — was called the Outlander, we we could pull in all kinds of references from Steven King’s Children of the Corn, as well as the aweful but very quotable movie.
     
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    I love my OHT. I don't find it uncomfortable for use carving. It makes a very good one tool option if I'm just going out for the day. I do prefer the blades on many other knives to this one, but it is still capable enough.
     
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