Tell me about my new knife from Mora Sweden

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  1. batmanacw

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    Notice I was careful not to call it a Mora......

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    FM Mattsson AB
    Mora Sweden.

    It has a lot of the classic Mora style but with the bevels on the top edge and the end cap.

    The auction said that this knife is from the 50's. I have no idea how to know for sure.
     
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    That knife is a Mora knife, due to the fact that it's made in Mora, Sweden in their iconic style, however it's not made by the company "Mora Knoves of Sweden". Mora is a style of knife, not just a company :dblthumb:
     
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    Not realy a style more an city/town based industry like sheffield or Solingen, they made plenty of different styles - some of which i've posted up before

    I've been looking into FM Mattson AB and there are some interesting links

    The initals stand for Frost Matts Mattsson made a name for himself casting metal work and are famous for faucets? (no real idea)

    I can find very little about their knife production aside for the odd knife here or there - for a while i wondered if they stamped their brand on somone elses knife but since Morakniv mention them in there history they must have contributed at some time.

    https://morakniv.se/en/about-us/our-history/?v=79cba1185463

    Not sure if the Frost mentioned in the link is the same Frost we all know. The logic that K J Eriksson bought the workshop from FMM in the 60's and then bought out Frosts in the 80's doesn't make sense

    but Mora history often doesn't..

    It may well be the same family and it was bought out in stages


     
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    That link says they bought the machine shop from FM Mattsson in the early 60's. They must have bought it with company shares because they bought out the FM Mattsson shares in 2005.
     
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    I don't think Frosts and FM Mattsson are the same company

    www.fmmattsson.com still make faucets
     
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    First there was Eric Frost. Then KJ Ericsson, who had worked at Frosts, started his own knife business. Later, KJ incorporated Bud Carl Andersson's knife business into Ericsson. Shortly after, Mattsson concentrated on faucets and sold the knife shop and machinery to KJ. Much later, Frosts became a subsidiary of Ericsson. Finally, Frosts +Ericsson was fully merged and renamed Mora of Sweden. Eventually the company name changed to Morakniv, which initially was a brand.
     
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    I think you mean Frost-Erik Ersson.

    I'm convinced its a red herring to the origins of a Frost Matts Mattsson knife
     
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    Frost-Erik seems to have been turned around to Eric Frost , possibly for commercial purposes. Definitely not Frost Matts Mattsson.

    In 1912, KJ Eriksson and Lok-Anders Mattsson founded the knife factory, Eriksson & Mattssons Knivfabrik, which would eventually become KJ Eriksson AB.
     
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    I've read that too, KJ fell out with Frost (was fired) over design changes but he never changed his name. It was never Eric

    I can only imagine it was westernised for the American market , its a norse name but was probably too Germanic sounding for post war consumers
     
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    Good observation. The Depression was tough all over the Nordic countries, but US was still a good market, so they started putting "Made in ____" on the knives in English and producing more "American" knives with clip points, guards and fullers. So, today, they, like most makers, will make a knife with the British "Scandi Grind" because it sells. Economics 101/supply and demand.
     
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    I assume you mean a zero scandi grind when you talk about a British "Scandi Grind"?

    It was very much scandi in origin, they just tended to add a micro bevel through stroping before usiing it.

    Mora knives are intended to be used like stanley blades, use it for a job and throwit away - an entire industry was based on that concept - make them cheap, make them sharp, make them strong enough to do the job that they get boughtagain but don't make them last too long why otherwise would they use such cheap wood for the handles that had to paint them in barn door paint :)

    biggest failure is in 2019 we are proud to own a 50+ year old Mora knife :D
     
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    It is pretty impressive what you can do with a basically disposable Mora. The steel and heat treat is damn good on the Morakniv and KJ Eriksson versions I have experience with.
     
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    But they don't paint barn doors...
     
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    But the Brits define a "Scandi" as zero bevel /single bevel - NO secondary bevel. But that is parishingfly rare anywhere, including in Scandinavia and Finland. Oh there is "only a little pregnant" - the "micro bevel." :p
     
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    :confused:

    uh...it's a sharpened piece of steel! Geesh.
     
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    Lol...thanks for that, gave me a good chuckle.

    :dblthumb:
     
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    Some of us don't ;)
     
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    I think my friend has fallen down another rabbit hole....
     
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    I've bought every SAK I am interested in, every Opinel I could want, the Mora thing is reopening an old rabbit hole for me. I am learning about what I really value in a knife.....and it isn't about looks and super steel.
     
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    not an single made in Sweden or Germany knife before 1970-ies (let say before trow away China stuff flooded the markets) from Scandinavian steel and manufacture was ever used as a throw away knife.
    Never.
    Most housewifes had a German style potato knife which was used for everything.
    Larger quality chef knifes were for the few. Not the lower classes.
    Fact is that even in till in the 60-ies alot of people had a Mora kniv (classic) and regarded as very valuable. There were families who could just afford one in the 30till50ies). It even was a sort of unofficial Militairy knife (the classic).
    Ok in the /90/2000/10 people treat a 10 dollar knife bad.
    Heck even in the 80-ies a Buck 110 was a treasure jewel over here.
    now a days 200- 300 dollar for a knife is acceptable (Bark River, Fallkniven, great knives BTW).
    But civilization goes round in circles, Mora will be a very valuable knife to a avarage Swede soon.
     
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    Doubtless true.
     

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