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Discussion in 'Sleep Systems' started by Djilc, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. Djilc

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    Im leaving in a few days for a 3 week training mission in Wisconsin. A good buddy of mine loaned me his tent cot to take with me. Ive never used one in my military career. Seems like a great piece of gear. Anyone else ever use one and what are your thoughts?
     
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    I camp several days a year on the ground in fire camps throughout the west. I have a two-person tent. I have tried a cot a few times, but they seem more trouble then they are worth and I don't bother with one anymore. Carrying it is not an issue for me, as I could check one out of the supply cache at fire camp. I just would rather sleep on my Big Agnes air core air mattress on the ground. But a lot of folks prefer sleeping on cots. And there are some low-to-the-ground ones to choose from if you so desire.
     
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    I use them when I can, I have a couple different ones. It takes a bigger tent than any two man Ive seen. I use a thermarest on it. They can be cold, if you don't insulate.

    I could sleep either way, but I like sitting on it to put my socks and boots on in the morning :)
     
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    Spent years sleeping in a 5 man hex tent (in Alaska) and using a GI Issue cot. Loved as it beat sleeping on the frozen ground.

    Drop a blanket across it and let it drape down to stop air movement under the cot to stay warmer. If you going to be in a warm spot, then your grond pad on top should be good to go.

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    Lots of add-on out there to make your rack a bit more functional

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    roll your own
     
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    I love mine.

    It is great when you are just making a minimal camp, out of the back of a pickup. I use mine a lot when solo hunting. It sets up in about a minute flat. I put an extra sleeping pad on the bottom for padding and insulation, and always try to remember to keep some airflow to prevent condensation inside during times when the temps are blow freezing.

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    One caution I will throw into this ....

    The ones with legs like pictured above CAN punch a hole in your tent floor.
    The "bow" style is better on your tent floor.

    I have one with straight legs, and I made a "crossbar" to protect floor by drilling shallow holes into a 2" x 4" for the legs to sit into.
    I will have to take a picture next time we are in "Heavy Camp".
     
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    I like a cot when it's possible to have one: easier on my old bones, easier to get in and out of, and a cot makes a tent floor larger because I can store gear under it.

    BUT, they are heavy, and as mentioned above, the "feet" of a cot can damage a tent floor. Herself and I each use cots when car camping in her large glamping tent.
     
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    I have one that fits on top of a cot and can be used on the ground also. I gave one as a secret Santa gift last year.
     
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    I will be in an actual tent, with no flooring at all. Basically for the last 19 years I've lived like a caveman when we go to the field, sleeping on the ground, freezing half to death ect.......this may very well be my last go round in a military environment, so I said screw it im gonna be comfortable for this one. I've got my inflatable mat and my sleep system as well as a pillow (such luxury!!) I'll be in a tent with 20 other stinking guys so it'll be nice for some privacy.
     
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    I found these "cot booties" quite useable, lightweight and comparatively small pack. I actually picked mine up in a local store, but here is a link ... https://slumberjack.com/floor-saver-cot-booties/ and so far when glamping with herself we have not punctured the tent floor (even with my weight on the cot!!). Hope this helps.

    OJ
     
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    Cool,,, thanks a heap!
     
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    As far as the floor goes, I have often just cut some thin cookies off a 4 or 5 inch down tree.
    Cot Coasters basically.
     
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    I used a tent cot without a tent but with tarps for a wind break. This was at San Saba, TX at 19 degrees and sleet. I had several pads for insulation and a MSS bag but still was cold. The tent should keep the wind from going under it and will make a big difference. Good luck.
     
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    I used one at the sugarhouse when making maple syrup. Often there were late night boils so I just slept there. A foam pad or mattress made it a lot more comfortable on cold nights as the sleeping bag insulation gets compressed on the bottom.
     
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    I bought one of the backpacking cots a few years ago.
    With a Thermarest pad, it is as nice as your bet at home.

    In my Kifaru Sawtooth and running a stove, it's not camping, its glamping.

    https://www.thermarest.com/cots/ultralite-cot
     
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    Kind of off topic now, but hopefully the OP doesn't mind a slight derail:

    How about just cutting an x into 4 tennis balls and slipping them over the feet?

    That said, I've been using military style cots in tents for over a decade and have not had a hole yet. In fact, my daughter just slept on one this weekend. Of course, she's much lighter than me, but I was sleeping on them as heavy as 275lbs (down to 198 this weekend!). I do always clear the ground well, and always use a blue tarp folded in half under the tent. And the rubber end caps on the legs are in good condition. And yeah, these kind of cots don't usually fit in tents for 4 people or smaller. We use them in 8 or 12 ma n tents for longer trips and it makes it SOOO much nicer. A place to sit and change, easy to get in and out, plenty of storage underneath to keep the tent tidy..

    The wife and I are now in hammocks, or in the Roof Top Tent on our big trips, so we don't really use them much anymore for ourselves.

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    Cots are nice when you can use them. The older I get the more my bones like them. I usually use the green isopore mat under the bag.

    Wife and I use the military style cots in our bigger tents.

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    I have slept on army style folding cots of off and on since I was a teenager.
    Sleep good on them.
    They are my go to even on primitive camp....wool blanket and bear hide gets me by...... can't get up off the ground as well as I used to.
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    My hunt kit that travels with me to various other camps included a canvas folding cot (warmer then nylon) foam pad, reflective space blanket and floor rug.

    Found a double wide folding cot years ago...Only one I have ever seen.

    Had to have it recovered....and is kind of noisy, everything moves when you do....LOL
     
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    Just got me a Cabellas XL guide cot, using it next weekend for a 3 dayer. Can't believe I caved, but I did.
     
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    Tagged for interest. I'm thinking about scooping up a tent cot as well. Good info so far fellas.
     
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    I like using a cot too, but find that some are too low and make egress even more difficult than sleeping on the ground. Will try a military style next. I made some plywood disc coasters as mentioned above to use with the military style cot. I use a four man Eureka A-frame tent so have plenty of room. (how four actual real people.... not actors...would fit in this tent is beyond me!)
    Haven't done a search but is there a dedicated "cot" thread anywhere?
     
  22. gohammergo

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    I like the concept of the tent cot, but haven't yet pulled the trigger. However, I do have tents, and I do have cots! :)

    My old Blanchard Draw-tite. Old and solid as a rock. It's been raining like mad and hasn't leaked a drop.

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    I have this set up in the yard by my apple trees right now. Putting it up for sale and needed to get some fresh pics. Have my gear set up and have spent a few nights in it. :) I have a large blue cot I picked up from Walmart that I highly recommend, and my Cabelas Adam and Eave sleeping bag.

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    Morning,

    If one is in the market for a great cot, look at the "Roll-A-Cots". Made here in the USA, by CamptimeInc. Available through Camptime.com or Campmor.com. I have no affiliation with either company. I am just an extremely satisfied customer.

    Camptime has other great outdoor products to include camp tables, stools and chairs. I think the business first started making products geared towards the rafting/river/guiding industry, thus their gear sheds water, dries quickly and is incredibly structurally strong, for the weight.

    I have been using these cots for over 20 years. A lot of the local guiding companies, use these cots and tables, on their overnight trips, which to me speaks volumes.

    Top notch product. Top notch customer service. Comes with carry pouch, that attaches to the assembled cot, creating a handy storage area. That pouch is very similar to the one in DKR's post.

    To save my tent floor, I go to the local hardware or box store. Once there, you can find these round, flexible, thin ( 1/16 inch in depth), grippy, rubber coasters, each about 3 inches in diameter. Their primary use is to be placed under furniture legs, to save hardwood floors, from scratches. 6 of the "coasters" for lack of a better word, cost about 4.00. Lightweight, durable and non slip. I place them in a pouch, tied to my cot carry handle.

    Hope this helps someone.

    Be safe.
     
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    cots are great for certain scenarios
    if carrying the cot is not an issue , and tent has space for it, then its well worth it,
    and depending on your age, getting up off the ground is not as much fun as it used to be
     
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    The wife and I first used these on a 2-week raft trip on the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon. The outfitter for the trip provided them. I slept out all but one night on that trip, the wife preferring to sleep in the tent. Really comfortable with a self inflating pad under you.

    We bought our own to use in our tent as soon as we got back from that trip. They pack down nicely for car camping or for a base camp and are a heck of a lot more comfortable than sleeping on the ground. The carrying sack for them doubles as a gear holder at night. Good piece of kit.
     
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    I was moments away from making this thread till I saw it here. I actually used to have a couple small army cots I used as a bed for a year and a half. Can be pretty comfy. I like how I sink into them. That being said, I might end up getting a ultralight cot. I saw these on ebay. I figure I should be the one to test it, see if it works at all. That way none of you have to. It's similar to ones I've seen for $200+ which is why I'm tempted to try it.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outdoor-Sup...265955?hash=item1a28e54da3:g:-PUAAOSwTM5Y365i
     
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    Update, Found a video of someone working with the ebay one.
     
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    Too heavy?
     
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    I was thinking... "land the plane man, just land the plane"! Put the thing together, roll around on it a little bit and give your 2 cents worth.
     
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    Did one break?

    Actually, I have the French military version. Low. Sturdy. Somewhat of a pain to disassemble.
     
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    I recently replaced my old tent with an Alps Mystique 2.0. Downsizing the tent quite a bit made me feel great about backpacking with it. I was a little concerned about the size since I move around a lot while a sleep. Concerned that I would end up with my body touching the outside walls of my tent which most likely will incur more mosquito bites and perhaps wick some moisture on myself, I looked into the Chinese ultralight cot (bow style) to keep me in one spot through the night. I was a little concerned about the quality but for $45.00, I thought I would give it a try. It packs pretty small and only weighs less than three pounds. So, I ordered it... It came and I like the simplistic assembly and disassembly. It was pretty darn comfortable and then when I put my Static V air mattress on it, It was like sleeping on a cloud! I like to think that I am quite the minimalist when camping but, now that I'm 46, I see the advantage of a good nights rest... It kinda sets the pace for your entire day! This is NOT an endorsement for the Chinese cot. It looks kind of cheap but since I will be using it for the first time this weekend while car camping with family, I see no better test since this is car camping and the risk of this being junk will not impact me so drastically. I weigh about 220 and I hope this cot can handle it. I will post up after the weekend to tell you what I think about it. Barring any failure of the cot, I plan keep this permanently as part of my sleep system... I'll let you guys know soon.
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    I did some serious trading with the folks at ALPS brands. I swapped them about $800 worth of custom game calls for a new sleep system...
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    Ready Lite Cot
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    Comfort Series Air Pad - 30"x 77"x 3"
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    Browning Mckinley 0 degree sleeping bag

    I set them up last night in my bedroom. The air pad was left all day with valves open to inflate the pad. I wanted to see how comfortable it was and if I thought I would be able to sleep on it for several nights for a fall hunt. I woke up 2 hours later... not really intending to actually sleep on it last night. I think this will make a great setup with my inexpensive 3 man Slumberjack tent. I hope they enjoy their box full of calls as much as I like my new sleeping gear!

    I also got a new backpack and a couple of their camp chairs to top off the deal.
     
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    I really dig the bearskin blanket
     
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    Thanks I like it as well....makes a good "sittin round the fire" wrap.
     
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    That's why I use a hammock.
     
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    Update on the Chinese cot that I got on eBay... I used it on a two night car camping trip and added a Static V air mattress for extra cushion and insulation. The set up was a breeze and it packs super small and light. I must admit that those two nights were the most comfortable I have ever slept outdoors! I am six foot tall and weigh about 220 and nothing broke. I must admit a few of the aluminum cross struts did bend a little. I am not expecting this to be some kind of heirloom that will last long enough for me to pass it down to my kids but, for the price, size, weight and comfy-ness, this will be a keeper and will be replaced with a new one when necessary. Hope this was useful info for you.
     
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    Any of you guys know of a good source for the GI cots?
     
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    I've used the old folding style GI cots in the past and I honestly prefer a nice warm sleeping pad any day over one of those cots.

    First the things are so damn heavy. Fine if you are car camping or working out of a basecamp but something to consider. Secondly, they're basically a field sobriety test to put together at times, at least to my mind when I'm tired and sore after a full day outdoors. Finally I thought they were always super loud! Seemed to reflect the sound off of the ground and back up to my eardrums every time I'd move around in my bag.

    I think the biggest thing with them though is that they are not very warm on their own. Similar to how hammock users need a good amount of insulation underneath them. You've basically got a huge cold pocket of air underneath you the whole time you're trying to sleep.
     
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    did the same thing but used a separate 6" piece for each for each foot to eliminate any possiblity of teter tawing
     
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    welcome to the creaky bones club, you wont regret it
     
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    For many years, I used my Colman's folding cot, in the bed of my truck with my therma-rest inflatable mat. I had an issue with using my therma-rest on the cot though. The mat would move around and the friction between the cot material and the mat material, had a super loud squeak or rasping noise when ever I moved. I tried insulating them with a towel but it didn't help. the therma-rest was just too noisy when laid on top of the cot. I ended up folding the cot up and simply laying on the therma-rest the one night I got fed up with the noise. Slept just fine without the cot. I think the cot will remain home from now on.
     
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