Terävä Jääkäripuukko 110

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    I tested out the 140 as part of a pass around. It's lots of knife for the money.
     
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    I have two 140's. they are awesome!
     
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    I have a 110 and the 140. Both are great users and a fantastic value. Get the leather sheath option!
     
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    I'm also thinking about sharpening using the sandpaper on a soft pad method to create a very thin convex without a secondary bevel. A true zero edge. I think I can very carefully blend out the micro bevel.
     
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    Both are very good, and as said a lot of performance for not a lot.
    The 140 is a good all purpose carry, stand alone as your belt knife to do everything. Saves your pocket folder from abuse.
    The 110 is a smaller package and compliments the Skrama and or Silky Saw.

    For the price buy both and have the other as a share or spare anyhow. Biggest issue is they keep selling out and only get restocked three/four times a year. Stainless are in stock and though don't take rust as the carbon ones do they don't hold their edge quite as well. Still plenty great, but I believe they are a similar steel to SAK's. For many they will be good enough especially on a damp boat, but for others the carbon is the biz. I wax my carbon ones, when I remember, as they are prone to surface rust if left out in the wet. A scouring pad and some oil will remove the worst; frankly I don't mind as these are for working not admiring.
    Skramas are back on the shelf but with just over 100 in stock they will be gone in a few weeks, if that; down to 13 leather sheaths already. British Army Bayonet Frogs work too and can be found on the bay in several camo patterns.

    These are agricultural tool for the work of, and do what they are meant to. I'm pretty agricultural at times too o_O works for me.
    Automobile bodywork paint sandpapers work just fine on a mouse mat. I use a DMT duel Diafold red/green in the field.
     
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    Have both 110 and 140! Outstanding steel (80crv2) holds a edge long, easy to sharpen.
     
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    I have the 110 and skrama. The 110 is my all-time favorite knife! Love the leather sheath too.
     
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    I was early on the bandwagon for these, got the 110 and a skrama as a pair. Ferocious tough, great edge holding, well worth the time and effort to get them from there to here.
     
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    You'll be happy either one or both. Regardless, Get the leather sheath. Very nice sheaths given they're from the manufacturer. No frills beast of a knife that is functional on all levels while remaining comfortable and liteweight. I have the 110, 140, and the Skrama. Super duty tools for sure, and they won't break the bank.
     
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    All the above, a no brainer really.
    I have some fantastic knives, some fantastically expensive ones too, but when it come to down and dirty, work, I reach for one of these. What they are really good at is all those tough tasks, and that means you can carry a really fine keen cutting folder for everything that needs it. Pair them up with some specialised tools and there isn't much you can't take on. The sheaths are well up to the task too and well worth getting; and its still not breaking the bank. Heck, rivet a stainless one to the work boat, or a carbon to the tractor, as then you won't be using your pocket knife for something silly (we have all done it).
    Buy with confidence.
     
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    just posted pictures in the knife gallery..considering the price (especially without the sheath) i think this is the best allround knife you can get.. :)
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    How would you compare it to the tops bob and mora garberg ?
     
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    I find that the grind is much better than the Garberg and pretty similar to the Bob. I like the handle sheath and price better than the Bob though
     
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    From what I perceive from others and a hunch, as I don't own either the Garberg or Tops.
    You can have 2 or 3 Terava's for the price of a Garberg and 3 or 4 for the price of the Tops.
    The Terava handles are one of the best and equal or better than the other two.
    The Terava's steel is as tough if not better than the two; though less rust resistant in carbon.
    The Terava's grind I really like and for many better than the other two; cuts, carves, and battons.
    The Terava's sheath is better than the Garberg and on par with the Tops.
    The fit and finish then both the Garberg and Tops are a whole lot nicer, way nicer as the Terava is pretty agricultural.

    Its a bit like Victorinox Fibrox Professional Chef's knife is one of the best in the world, but it ain't sexy, nor particularly expensive. Boringly workmanlike.
     
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    links for the least inexpensive prices? Thank you Tobiism and Muskett for the replies!
     
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    No problem. they are only available at varusteleka.com(sp?) as far as I know
     
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    I own a 110, bob, garberg, companion hd, LMF, and a BM bushcrafter. The BM is my edc. That's because I have a kydex sheath that I have a maxpedition case holding my I phone 7+ mounted to it.

    The 110 is a great knife. Nice sheath to considering its leather. I'm partial to kydex myself. All of the above mentioned knives a great carvers and slicers. It depends on how much moisture I'm in and weight I want to carry, and how I want to carry it.

    My garberg was cheaper than my 110, so that point was moot. The BM and the bob were the most expensive but delivered what I expected. The hd was the least, and last in cost and performance. It's strapped to my camelback for mountain biking because it's light and I don't worry about losing it. Hd doesn't equal the durability of the my other knives. If I ever get a kydex sheath for the 110 it will replace the hd.
     
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    You're only going to find it here: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/puukkos-and-leukus/494

    Varusteleka has these made for them by Laurin Metalli, a very reputable Finnish blade maker.

    I have the 140; I have enough 110mm length blades that fit the need (although I may get a Terava 110 anyhow!). It's a beastly great blade. Robust, sharp, keen edge, and very comfortable. The leather sheath option is fantastic; the leather sheath could sell for what the entire package costs. The knives themselves, sans sheath are very cheap, only in the $30-$40 range. So if you like kydex, or want to make your own sheath, go for it and save some money.

    Nonetheless, these knives are highly recommended.
     
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    Thank you I'll have to pick one up in the coming months no experience with that steel or company heatvtreat
     
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    I've said loads about the Teravas and even Skrama. They are a bargain. However, that doesn't mean they are the last word in knife making, far from it. There are fabulous knives out there to be had. Something for everyones taste. Just because one knife is great doesn't mean everything else is bad.
    In truth most knives are half decent. Some do try too hard to please everyone, and some are straight forward gimmicky. But on the whole there has never been more choice, factory or custom.

    For me I would invest the most in a good folder, Spyderco, Benchmade or even a Chris Reeve. Because they are the most portable and useful.
    For your sheath knife then whatever floats your boat, be that Bushcraft, Hunter, Survival. Up to your elbow in silage then the Teravas are quite fine, but for my hunting knife I'll have something finer, as in truth it doesn't have that much work to do.
    I cut logs with an axe or big logs with a saw. Silky Saws are great and I prefer them to the axe; a whole lot lighter than carrying around an axe and safer too.
    Bushwhacking then a machete if its foliage, a billhook for heavy thicket, or a Skrama for an all rounder in a reasonable carry package.
    If its a big job then out comes the chainsaw and tractor/digger.

    I do like my Opinels, my SAKs and my Leathermans. Just can't have enough knives.... big boys toys, woe betide if we grew up.. Just learn to cut safely, and get the kit to keep your tools well maintained/sharp.
    Lastly, you don't need to spend a lot to get out there and enjoy yourself. Just start with small steps before leaping. The more you do the more you will know what works for you. Spend the money on the adventure.
     
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    I just ordered the 110! One to two weeks!
     
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    You will be getting a Skrama next and some Cock.

    Cock Fish or Pork tinned, comes from the same site; it actually tastes fantastic after a days hike.
    I actually rather fancy one of their snow suits.
     
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    The knife is waiting for me at home. I won't get there until 2 am......I don't think I can't wait until tomorrow to play with it. Is that obsessive? :oops:
     
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    Wow. I'm impressed. @trafficjuzz has some of the nicest fixed blade knives on the planet. This is high praise indeed for the jaakaripuuko.
     
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    Good heavens, looking at who's been posting these accolades, I'm stunned. I see guys that I know have incredible custom blades here praising these knives.
    I've obviously been missing out.
    Time to fix this!!
     
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    I think the Skarma is a bit higher on the list than it was a few months ago too.
     
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    I am pretty sure the jaakaripuukko will end up with a zero grind convex tomorrow sometime. I can always change it if I don't like it.
     
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    I have a 140 ss. It just sits in my jeep. Along with a mora.
     
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    I cannot help but indulge in some very late night first impressions as I finally settle into bed after a 20 hour day.

    The sheath is awesome. The snap retention is pretty stiff so I'll mostly use it without snapping until I need the greater retention the snap provides. Let's say for off road vehicle riding to canoeing.

    The handle is a work of art. It's almost symmetrical from tang to blade. If the handle molded on in reverse it would be nearly identical. Extremely comfortable with just the right amount of rubbery feel and texture, but feeling solid enough to drive over with a truck.

    The 90 degree spine is flawless. Mine is ground on 3 sides to produce an excellent cutting edge. I can wait to try it for scraping tinder.

    The grind is centered and well executed. The secondary grind is a bit more obtuse than expected. The knife came plenty sharp. Better than most production knives.

    I have decided not to fully convex it. I'm going to blend out the transition line between the Scandi and micro bevel. I'll use the sandpaper method to remove the numb between the two angled. This will mean that I retain the micro bevel angle but create a smooth convex into the main grind angle. Commonly called a Scandi-vex.

    The size is perfect.

    The tip is extremely strong.

    I absolutely must do a one stick fire this weekend. It's too nice not to put some miles on.
     
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    @batmanacw - Every time I pick up my 110 I'm still impressed by the handle. It feels fantastic, and I've used it for hours without gloves without getting hot spots, let alone blisters. (It isn't pretty, so I'm thinking of picking up an "extra" 110 to try to do a stacked birch bark handle... we'll see.) The knife cuts and makes one stick fires like a boss, and I was incredibly surprised at the edge retention. I used it while camping with the in-laws about a month ago, and did all the wood processing I needed to get a fairly large 2-3 hour fire going, and afterwards it was still sharp enough to kinda sorta shave hair. A few swipes on the strop and it was perfect. I was working with some pretty gnarly wood, and was surprised the edge didn't roll in the slightest (and happy it didn't chip either!).

    I thought the whole scandi bevel + large secondary bevel was weird, but it works amazingly well so... I haven't changed it. I want to say I got the knife 4-5 months ago, and it quickly made some much prettier and "better" knives get used a lot less.

    All that to say - you're gonna be very happy. And I imagine anyone else who gets one will be as well... unless they want a pretty knife.
     
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    Pretty is as pretty does.
     
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    Totally agreed. I've actually gotten a little frustrated when I show my 110 off to people and they're dismissive or unimpressed. I'm always like "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!"
     
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    Hah! On that note, when I got my grail Malanika puukko a few weeks ago, my wife told me it was hideous. Said it looked "like a ladies letter opener, and an ugly one at that."
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
     
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    I have had time to play with the 110. They did many things right and a very important thing wrong.

    The handle and sheath are wonderful.

    The steel holds its edge very well carving hard maple.

    I could really tell how hard the steel is as I sharpened it.

    The 32° angle is fine for me. It could have even been even better at 30°. The steel is easily good enough to hold up with a micro bevel.

    The secondary bevel they put on the knife was far too obtuse. It was not bad near the base of the blade, but it was close to 45° included angle near the tip. I would never consider using a micro bevel steeper than a few degrees higher angle than the primary grind. It will take me several sharpenings to get the belly of the tip completely cleaned up. This was very sloppy work on the part of the manufacturer.

    I used diamond to straighten out the poor grind in the belly right behind the tip. Then I used sandpaper on a soft pad to finish out the edge. I blended out the hard transition between the primary and secondary bevels. Then I stropped.

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    It carves extremely well now. I cut a flat sided notch, pot hook, v notch, and even chopped a bit with zero edge deformation I even started to drill a hole. Zero deformation.

    If you compare the 110 to my Garberg and Condor Bushcraft Basic, this knife does not have any particular capabilities above my other knives this size. It did not cut as well as they did until I blended and sharpened the edge. The quality of the primary grind is easily better on the other two knives over the 110. The secondary micro bevel was far better on the other two knives. Now all three are pretty much equal in cutting ability.

    The only differences that would lead me to grab the 110 is the nicer handle, sheath, and quality of steel. My 110 was not even close to ready for use with the original edge.
     
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    I just received another 110 in the mail. This is probably my 8th(?) one. It has an obtuse secondary as well. It will still carve and cut fine but not as slick as I like so I'm taking it to the belt grinder to thin it out. I have two of the older 140's and neither of them have this problem. Nor do I remember the other older versions I had having it as well. Maybe they are getting a little sloppy because of their fast production rate. Whatever the case, had someone who wasn't as picky with edges as I am received this knife they would have still been able to use it just fine.
     
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    The belly on mine was pretty bad. I am not impressed with that part of the deal. My Mora HD Pro isn't full tang bit it's every bit as good a knife for $15. The 110 has a slightly better handle and sheath.
     
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    I'm sitting here with my:
    Mora Garberg
    Mora Bushcraft Black
    Mora Pro HD
    Mora Companion HD
    Condor Bushcraft Basic 5"
    Condor Sapien
    And Jaakaripuukko 110

    Other than the obvious differences in blade length and three of the Moras being rat tail construction, I cannot see much difference in the capabilities of these extremely fine blades.

    I didn't add my many thinner Moras because they are also extremely capable and much more durable than believed in some circles.

    I can trust my life to any of them. Not because they can save my life, but because I know they will perform the tasks I would ask of them in a survival situation.

    I'm let down a little because the 110 needed far more work than any of the others mentioned. I'm not let down by the quality over all.

    It simply strikes me at how good so many of my knives are. There really are a lot of really great options out there.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your experience. I was never disappointed by how it performed, and I started using it straight out of the box. I have no way of measuring the bevel angles, and I really don't have enough skill I guess to see the huge difference or the amount of work to get it to your liking. I suppose I got some learning to do.

    But I definitely agree with your last statement: it is incredible how many great knives are out there in just about everyone's price point.
     
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    If you put it next to a bone stock Mora Companion or Pro you will easily feel the difference in cutting forces. Now that I convexed the edge, removing the sharp micro bevel transition and steep angle, it feels much better.
     
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    @batmanacw can you do that with just like some 400 grit sandpaper over a strop bat? I love how it works, but if you're telling me I can make it better... :33:
     
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    I used 220, 320, 600, 800, 1000, and 1500 then strop.

    You can do the same using any slightly soft surface to back your sandpaper.
     
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    Thanks @batmanacw ! I'll have to work on that once I get through this move. I'll have to do some before and after carving comparisons, and see what kind of difference I can see.
     
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    Batmanacw post is excellent. To get the price point of the Terava they just do the basics to make a good knife, and leave out a whole lot of finishing that they might do on a higher priced fancy puukko as in their birch stacked traditional models.
    With a bit of your time then it can be improved and tuned to your own taste. Tarted up and sharpened to how you like it. I haven't bothered as its fine for me as is: factory agricultural out of the box. As I sharpen it it will probably end up similar to the above. It not for a feather thin keen edge as its for beating on too; it splits wood for kindling really well, in fact better than most of my other knives bar my big choppers. I can see why someone would finish them off better to their liking. With a bit of time they come up really nicely, and at the price point of the basic knife a great knife to do your own thing on.

    I find "understated" really attractive, which is why I have a Chris Reeve Sebenza too :D. I have a friend who can unzip a deer in seconds and uses an Opinel; its not the knife its the competence of the user, helps if its a sharp knife though.
     
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    I'll say it was easier to sharpen than most of my "scandi" knives. My LMF is the only true "scandi" I've been able to sharpen as such. The 110 carbon did sharpen up nicely with a tiny micro bevel. It's a great knife for the price and wait. The leather sheath is nicest I've seen, even though I'm partial to kydex.
     
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    thank you for the praise, which really is high..i don't think that they are that nice :) all of my knives are users and in recent years this aspect has come to the forefront when judging knives more and more...the ones i didn't like to/ didn't use, i have sold or given away as presents..

    the jaakari puukko is not perfect (an edge modification as done by batmanacw definitely does improve it a lot and for my personal preference i would like the handle to be just a tiny little bit more round), it will never cut/carve as good as a mora with a 2mm thick blade, also rubber is not the toughest material (e.g. like micarta - on the other hand rubber is more comfortable to me) and it probably never is going to win a beauty contest (with most people at least, I like utilitarian designs a lot)...

    but combining all the positive features with the price of 33€ without the sheath (I will gladly carry it in my backpack in a sheath made of cardboard and duct tape) as a general utility knife, which begs to be used and which is tougher than Moras in that price range, the jaakari puukko comes out on top as far as i am concerned
     
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    Has anyone polished the flats of their Terava blade? I think I've only seen one image on all of the internet of someone who had; it seems to be that the blade at least could be aesthetically improved by removing the forging scale on the flats and polishing it up nicely.
     
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    I purchased one a few months ago and I like it. Everyone who sees it says "what's that?" To which I dont know what to say, so I pull out the start phone and go that one there. Does anyone know how to pronounce It?

    Terävä Jääkäripuukko
     
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    Well it says they expect it to arrive week 34, which'll be the 21... when's payday??
     

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