The Esbit stove thread (mods and in use)

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  1. MrFixIt

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    The only thing that I have done is make a leather case for mine. I had it tied to my shoulder bag but eventually took it off.
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    That is a great idea.
     
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    Here is the one that I did.
    Once again, @Spork was the "guiding light".

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    Packs up nicely.
    I need to make me a little pouch like @freebirdfb has done.
     
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    Watchin this .

    Looks like a great lil stove .
     
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    I've got the cheap knock off. Works OK but the Esbit is much sturdier.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    I picked mine up pretty cheap. Somebody had opened it up and took the tabs out so the store put it in the clearance isle.
     
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    I just found a little zipper pouch that mine fits!
    This is fun, gang!
     
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    Got one comming!
     
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    I've got one in my cart. Along with some chocolates.
    Just waiting to see if Lamnia has anything else I think I need.
     
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    I have one but no mods or anything right now, but definitely watching this thread.

    I picked up walmarts version some years ago, but it was total junk.
     
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    Here are some pics from an overnighter about a year ago.

    Heating the beef tortellini from a French combat ration:

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    Boiling water for tea in my Keith Ti cup:

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    And the next morning, boiling water for my muesli and coffee:

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    I'm an Esbit fan.
     
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    I use grenade pouches to hold some of my Esbit stoves...

    I chose to use a Blackhawk pouch for the extra security of a buckle since it is on the outside of my Maxpedition Pygmy.

    The brew kit is integrated into the pack:

    Two Swiss M84 canteen cups with one lid
    Esbit stove (currently with a package of 20-4g tablets)
    Heavy foil windscreen
    Sliding lid tin with 4 Coghlan's tablets kept in a small ziplock with book matches
    Coffee and Tea beverage kit in another ziplock
    Swiss utensil set

    Only the stove, small tin and windscreen go into the Grenade pouch. The rest go inside.

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    A Mil-Spec pouch is a bit larger. It will hold the stove, windscreen and a standard Altoids tin...usually. Some pouches are tighter than others.

    Esbit stove with 9 Coghlan's tabs in a ziplock bag
    Altoids tin with 4-14g tablets and a book of matches
    Heavy foil windscreen

    There is some wiggle room next to the Altoids tin where you could slip in a standard Bic lighter

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    This is my wood burning setup. I had to go to a smaller Sucrets size tin to make room for the adapter pieces...no room for matches.

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    @Spork what kind of water bottles are those?
     
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    Swiss M84 canteens. The cups snap onto the bottles...you can't shake them loose.
     
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    Thanks! Those usgi cups?
     
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    Those are M84 cups...they were issued that way
     
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    Cool kit. I really like it . Thanks for sharing
     
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    If you don't like the fishy smell of Esbit, you could stow it in a sandwich box and have room for extra tablets.

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    @Spork, Dave, tell us about the wood burner adapter parts please.
     
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    How about this model? Anyone else using it? 20181010_071627.jpg

    This is my still unused backup. 20181010_071643.jpg

    I was told that after repeated folding/unfolding of the legs and pot stand that they would eventually snap off. Hasn't happened yet. 20181010_071737.jpg

    It doesn't get much smaller or lighter than this.
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    And my standard versions....
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    I have a couple Esbit emergency stoves. I've never used them, I imagine they aren't intended to withstand many bending cycles. I believe these are the same shape as the stove that the French issue with their rations. I got them for Trangia mess tin based PSKs which I haven't finished.

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    These are supposed to be Czech surplus.

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    They didn't come with fuel, but I imagine they would be similar to the flat round tablets that came with the NVA (East German) stoves. They are the larger diameter ones next to Coghlan's tabs.

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    Thanks, just a scrap piece of copper roof flashing with screwed on wood ball for handle which is stowed upside down and held in place with a ranger band when canteen is full of gear.
     
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    I need to take photos of mine next time I use them, I have two regular Esbit stoves and two NVA issued esbits. Both work great but I prefer the traditional Esbit type, you can tell the East Germans cut some corners (cheap commies lol).

    That said they lived stuffed into packs as a back up to my Emberlit.
     
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    This one's ugly but it works. My Pathfinder cup won't sit on my Esbit stove in the full open position. I know I can semi-close the stove to make it work, but it isn't as stable that way and I don't want any more tip-overs. UGH!

    2 stainless steel shish-kabob skewers cut down, but still too big to nest nicely with the stove. I'm going to follow @MrFixIt's lead and make one of @Spork's wire hanger thingies one of these days soon.

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    So many stoves, so little time...
     
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    The stove is adjustable for smaller pots. Why the wire modification?

    The canteen cups seem to fit well without a wire support.

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    @Spork is the resident gear modding genius.
     
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    This thread reminded me that I have an emergency Esbit stove that I've never tested. In light of my major Esbit stove mod failure last week, and still salivating from @MrFixIt's post yesterday, I decided to throw together a little brew kit to test it out - and make a cup of soup. ;)



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    The 250 mL pot held a pack of Cup of Soup, 1 3-in-1 instant coffee, half a LMF spork, some HD aluminum foil for a base/wind screen and a BIC. There was more room inside for some crackers too, but the kids ate them before I was finished. LOL! The stove does not fit in the pot either folded or unfolded. It's just a little too wide in the ready to use position. The fuel tablets will fit though. ;) I may need to try to make a mod to make the little sucker fit in that pot. hahah!

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    The kiddos ate the crackers I tried to pack in the pot, so I threw these into my incredible sock/stuff sack/oven mitt/pot scrubber/trivet. LOL!

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    I didn't get a boil from the one tablet I burned but the soup was perfect drinking temperature. the pot was too hot though so i may look for some hot lips or a folding cup to fit inside. I am pretty happy with this little stove though. Thanks for the reminder! :D

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    ETA: To the point made above, I don't think I'm going to be folding and unfolding this very much. I may try to make a DIY version with the piece of titanium that's kicking around here waiting for a project. ;)
     
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    This thread is awesome!
     
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    I have no idea, but as Spork pointed out that new ones are cheap enough to go ahead and buy it new and you you can put your own miles on the equipment,
     
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    Nice little kit there Jacqui!
     
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    You inspired me, JD! Thank YOU!! I'm glad you guys reminded me about and tested this little stove. I like it!! :D
     
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    I think you inspire more people here than many others...
     
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    AH! What a kind thing to say. I have some pretty outstanding role models and mentors here at BCUSA and they get all the credit, you included, JD! Thanks! :D
     
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    One of the best modifications that can be made to an esbit stove is to make a tray that fits in it, that prevents the liquified Esbit from escaping and slow down the burn rate for increased efficiency.

    Brian Green designed such a tray and gives instruction how to DIY or as an alternate you can purchase one already made. A lot of research has gone into the use of Esbit and the most efficient height Esbit to pot bottom is 1-1/2" to 1-3/4"

    https://www.briangreen.net/bbb/2011/11/titanium-foil-esbit-tray-stove.html

    http://campingulster.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-bget-esbit-tray-stove-is-now-in.html

    https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/bget-titanium-solid-fuel-tray.225834/
     
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    @zelph think a tealight candle cup would work? Size wise I mean
     
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    A few more pictures of an Esbit stove in use. This is from one of the French RCIR ration packs I bought last year (I liked them enough to buy several more.) This is the small "emergency" stove made from one piece of steel that you bend into shape.

    This is a tin of pasta carbonara next to the stove. Note the little handle that comes in the Esbit box inside the ration pack, to allow you to pick up the tin. The stove works better to heat the food if you don't completely remove the lid from the tin before heating it. Just peel it back enough so that it doesn't burst. (See my 3rd pic, below.)

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    It works well for boiling water, too. The French ration packs include instant coffee and tea bags.

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    And finally, heating up a tin of "farmer hotpot." It was a sausage with beans and some other vegetables.

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    As a previous poster mentioned, I don't think this stove will handle too many repeated bending and flattening cycles. That said, even folded into shape it's not bulky.

    As an aside, I wish we could get more canned foods here in the US in this type of tin. All I ever see in this format is canned fish like sardines or herring. The shape is ideal for heating the meal in the tin on a stove or over coals, and easier to eat from than the typical round can.
     
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    Yes, that will help. Watch how it burns half way thru the cube. If it starts to slow down too much, cut notches out 2 sides of the tea lite to allow more air to enter.

    What is the dimension from top of esbit to bottom of can in this photo:

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    One 14 gram esbit should have boiled 250 ml of soup easily.
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    The issue ones are identical except they have additional stamped markings...a stock or contract number and "Bundeseigentum" (Federal Property). Interestingly, I received one marked "Natit"...apparently another contractor.

    Condition varied from used...to very used. I painted them over with stove paint after cleaning up some rust, tweaking some parts back into shape and tightening loose hinges. That's why I recommend finding a good deal on a new one.

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    I've taken to burning my tabs in a small lidded tin. It allows me to snuff unused fuel and carry it for the next use. It also means I'm not afraid to add another tablet if needed. The sliding lid tin actually fits snugly across the stove.

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