Discussion in 'Cooking & Water Purification' started by MrFixIt, Oct 9, 2018.
Never tried the steam baking
This is my steam baking kit used with a Starlyte Stove. Should work well with esbit also.
I found these three pieces at the thrift store. Cost: .86 cents
A 6.5' bundt pan with 2" in hole. Fits perfect into an aluminum bowl, leaving about 1" in bottom of bowl between bundt and bowl bottom.
Lid fits perfect with excess overhang that can be trimmed.
I went backpacking weekend before last and used my esbit stove with coghlans fuel tablets you can really save fuel weight with the esbit on shorter trips.
A two night trip I burned 8 tablets that's two ounces of fuel. Two tabs per dinner
one tab for each cup of coffee.
Check out FlatCatGear these guys have developed a way to BAKE with esbit stoves! Ive yet to get a chance to try it myself but Ive heard and read very good things from the internet stove obsessives like myself.
Yea that’s why Ive decided on esbit lol
I will check him out!
@SideshowRaheem great download there! Thanks for this
I like that bunt/bowl combo Zelph! Looks like it turns out some donut type cakes nicely.
Used my BCB Fire Dragon this past weekend. Boils so fast!
The Bundt makes for fast and efficient baking. I'm able to control amount of water so that it evaporates when baking is complete and then further baking slows for a little Browning of the top.
Fire Dragon fuel!
I love my BCB stove.
You and your video prompted my purchase, so thank you!
Esbit stoves have arrived! Now is there anything to help increase efficiency of the tabs? Watching videos I have see people use rings around them etc... my goal is to boil and bake...
Stand them on their side instead of lying them flat. *I read that on here and can’t remember who said it*
A windscreen is definitely a help. It contains the heat and funnels it upwards towards your cooking vessel.
* Also read that here*
Gotcha, maybe I can cut some pieces like @Spork s wood burning mod...
If you want to get the most out of the tablets, use a full wrap-around windscreen. You want the heat reflected/directed around the walls of your vessel.
I have an oil amp folding windscreen would something like that work or do I need those titanium foil style ones? Or carbon felt like the firebox stoves one?
To increase efficiency, make yourself a Brian Green Esbit Tray. Google BGET and you should find the layout for it.
I mostly make them from heavy aluminum foil from chafing tray covers - https://www.partycity.com/aluminum-full-steam-pan-lid-39616.html?cgid=chafing-dishes-aluminum-pans
Sometimes I include a round base reflector cut from an aluminum pie pan.
Googled, like it. Said I could buy from zelph stoves but the link didn’t work...
Thank you what’s the ring inside the stove?
A tin...I have been burning tablets in tins so I can snuff out and carry excess fuel for the next burn. I added a little folding handle on the lid for reach.
I suggest just getting out there with the basic setup and burning a handful of tabs just to get a feel for Esbit before you overload yourself with details.
How does that increase efficiency?
It looks like another version of a small Esbit stove to me.
It prevents oxygen from touching the long sides of the esbit, slows down the burn rate and also allows the esbit to be totally consumed....no left over little lump.
I've been out of stock for awhile, trying to ready my house for sale.
Look at the photo of Sporks small tin he uses to set his Esbit in. It's a wedding favor tin with some small holes punched in the sides to allow an efficient burn rate. Give me your address and I'll send you a few times, no charge.
Gotcha makes sense. When reenacting I used esbit a good bit when I was doing events. I kept plenty of tabs and weight wasn’t a concern. With camping I just want to make sure I get the most out of it.
I found that when I slowed down the burn rate I either needed more tabs or it took longer to accomplish what I was doing.
I thought I had posted this in this thread, but here it is again:
I got 21 minutes out of a tab
But I wouldn't call it efficient because the water never got to a boil. Just bubbles and 170F, which is fine for a drink if you have the time. Good for simmering something though. Or low and slow cooking. Maybe the baking that Blue is going for.
I think it is a rule that on your first burn with an Esbit stove...you must cook bacon.
I can support that...
And just to say, I'll probably never buy Esbit tabs again. When they are broken inside the packaging they are a pain in the butt. I'll be sticking with Coughlans. Plus it gives me a reason to buy those plastic M&M tubes
Good way to store them! I always repacked them into the wwii tubes
That’s the best post I have read today!
That may work as a technique for dry baking...I’m guessing you need 20-30min for something like a muffin.
M&M's and Bacon
Efficiency is necessary for backpackers.
Bushcrafters are awhole different breed. We want speed and heavy stainless steel GI issue.
The BGET tray was designed for backpackers.
The wedding favor tin is a nice design because it has a lid to prevent stink from getting into storage containers.
Many backpackers have a difficult time boiling 2 cups of water with one esbit....go figure! I boil 3 cups with one cube, no problem.
I just want to bake a biscuit with one cube, boil a canteen cup with one cube or fry up some eggs and hashbrowns.... you guessed it.... with one cube. I never used a windscreen as a reenactor so if that is all that is needed then I am happy. I like the tin because I can save what I don’t use can’t argue with that!
Let me put this out there...
I think it would be less fuss and probably faster to fry a bannock biscuit in a small skillet.
Appreciated and I do like bannock that way. I have not found a proper skillet for my current Kit.
One of these?
They are nice but I need something that nests with the small mors pot and has no handle. I know I’m picky but I’ll find the beast one day. Closest has been the paderno pan from bend backwoods. It beats with the larger mors pot at least.
Yes sir, that's the one.
This is my 3rd. I doubt I’ll let this one go lol
Don't blame ya, they're very good fry pans.
So another novice esbit question. So the originals esbit stoves I had in my reenacting days and the new made ones I bought them and when I first started all held 6 cubes but these new ones only holds 4. Is that normal? Thanks!
The packaging for 14g tablets changed...they used to be 3 to a strip, not individually packed bubbles. A complete box of 4g tablets will fit in the pocket stove, the large Esbit stove will hold the full box of 14g tablets. Refer back to the pic I posted recently...there is a box of 4g tablets on the stump.
Remove the foil from the ends of the esbit.to speed up the burn rate.
You are my favorite encyclopedia! So there is a larger stove and I’m not crazy lol
Yes, or removing the tab from anything that encloses it altogether.
It all depends on what you are going for, high heat/fast burn rate, or lower heat/long burn rate.
The Young Roughian Adventure Kiddos really wanted to go on an expedition to the creek today, but I walked a little too far on my gimpy foot yesterday so wasn't up for it. Instead, we're hanging in the backyard, pretending that we are at the beach. When lunch time rolled around, they all cooked their own lunch in their LMF sporks and @zelph bushpots.
They all used a different stove and fuel combo today. We tried to use Coghlans Stormproof matches but the striker wouldn't work. They're all still afraid that they are going to spontaneously commbust, so I lit a BIC and they used it to light their matches, which lit the fuel.
Dylan made Knorr Chicken Noodle Soup using Coghlans and a GI canteen stove.
Abby made chicken ramen using Esbit and a BCB folding stove.
Athena made Lipton Chicken Noodle Soup with Wetfire and my East German Kooker.
And, my ulterior motive for this feast, Charlotte tried a UST Fuel Cube with a canteen stove to make Lipton chicken noodle soup. I've never tried these before, and though I wasn't at all scientific about it, Charlotte was the only one who got a seriously frothy boil on her soup.
We had a few fire safety lessons as well. There was running near the stoves, Charlotte wore a dress which required much minding, and we then we had to put their fires out safely. We talked about the fire triangle while dumping sand on the small but still going flames.
They were all got bored in the middle of the cook, but they were all happy with the results.
We had so much fun that we made a video for all their parents and grandparents to watch. I thought some of you might enjoy it too. Thanks for joining us!