The hidden woodsmen deep woods ruck

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  1. JosephDurham

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    Was curious if anyone here had gotten to try this pack out and their thoughts, reviews, pros, cons, et cetera?

    Thanks so much,

    Joseph
     
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    Good question.
    Every time I ask a question about Hidden Woodsmen gear it gets ignored. I wish there were more reviews on this gear. I've come close to taking the plunge a few times, but just not a lot of info.
     
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    Looks like a solid backpack, but the price seems steep.
     
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    I have one. It a well built pack, like all his others. Fits on the ALICE frame, but I got it to see if it would fit on a MOLLE II frame and it did. I have it loaded up and been doing some short rucks with it and it carries fantastic. You can Also fit 2 SS water bottles with cups in one pocket
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    I just discovered this pack yesterday.
    It really doesn’t cross me as overpriced. Their dayruck is the real unobtainium. 50 liter top loader with a lid @140 is a lot of capacity per dollar coming hidden woodsmen. I think it’s about his labor costs.

    My concerns about the deep woods ruck are with frame attachment.
    I might convinced at some point enough to drop on it eventually, it’s a really new pack and their aren’t enough pictures yet.
    I don’t want to wear an LC-2 frame on anymore packs. If peeps like it on a filbe frame,... that would be a strong selling point. Although fitting securely on a molle 2 would also be ok
     
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    For some reason we pay American Citizens more than 3rd world countrys. LL bean has plenty of 3rd world manufatured packs that are cheaper and i am sure the people that are working 18 hrs a day at 2 bucks are happy to get the work. Hope this doesn't come across wrong.
     
  7. SpookyPistolero

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    Price seems totally fair to me, I expected two and a half times that much. Takes a lot of work to stitch all that. If I had one of the plastic frames (Down east or something?) and needed something as large as 50L, I'd give this a go.
     
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    Easily agree here. Look at the price of some of the first run of Hidden Woodsman Haversacks (compared to some other USA made satchels which are often 2-3 times the cost). At $90 I love mine have put at least that amount of money back into it with mods/add-ons. For USA Handmade, value really does not get much better..... Go for it!
     
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  9. JosephDurham

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    Thanks @Buck I ended up ordering the same color as you. I ordered it Saturday morning, and Saturday evening I already had shipping details. Very nice! Can’t wait to get it, along with a few other goodies I ordered for him. Should make the upcoming trip to the Smokies much more organized.

    Will post back when mine arrives.
     
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    I have been looking at the deep woods ruck and I am debating on picking one up.

    However, I would MUCH rather get my hands on this one HW made. He only made one of them for an auction, I wish he would do a run of them.
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  11. JosephDurham

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    Mine came in today guys. Along with a couple other goodies.

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    Photos of the frame side anyone who has one? Interested to see the sleeve, how it is sewn and the lower attachment points*

    Thanks
    Andy
     
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    That is nice looking
     
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    they are too cheap for what they are. i don't know how he's making any money on them.
     
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    I've got one as well. Like all of Malcolm's gear, it is very well made. The real struggle for me is deciding on the frame, straps, and belt I want to get to go with it.
     
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    Well, as of right now I have a cheaper ALICE frame that came with straps and belt. I have yet to get it attached to the frame yet, but I am hoping to do that this evening and then possible get some gear in it to get the feel of the pack.
     
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    Thank you. I certainly think so. I told my wife that these packs should be able to be handed down considering how well they have been made.
     
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    I wonder if anyone could take a guess (or pictures?) at the size or variety of third party belts that could fit? Wondering if it would make a nice frame-less option with the correct type of belt?
     
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    Hey guys!
    I was able to play around with the ruck some tonight and finally got it attached to the frame correctly.

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    The first thing I did was attach the top webbing through and around the top of the frame to add stability and keep the frame from slipping, which you can see here, I hope.

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    Then, just as Malcolm suggested I wrapped the webbing around the base of the frame and back through where the bedroll will attach.

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    Then, my gear being out in the shop, I just loaded it with things in the living room. Hahahah. Adjusted the two straps and let me tell you, this ruck is awesome!!! I cannot wait to get this out into the woods! I’ve never had a decent pack and this thing is built to last!!! This is one great piece of gear!
     
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    How much do you think it would cost to have something like that turned out by textile shop at low-volume with good QC? I'm imagining it is not cheap with quality materials. I know as much about sewing and manufacturing as I do about brain surgery though so I could be way off base LOL
     
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    A company I would look to, to get a feel for what retail costs are needed for high quality construction, 100% Made in the USA, CORDURA nylon packs would be Hill People Gear.
     
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    Don't forget that the Alice frame has a little storage room between the pack and the waist belt. I have carried my S&W Kit .22 back there for years, accessible but hidden so as not to draw attention. Holster clips on to the flat down-band of the frame and rides just fine there. I also went to the dark brown Deep Woods ruck, retiring my 50-year old Med. Alice pack. Wan ted the light brown but looked too much like the back end of a deer and felt I had a target on my back.
     

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    Currently my dream pack! I wish I could afford this beast. Even more so since my backpacking pack just busted on me. Oh the joys of living on disability income means you do more dreaming then buying and living. Don't ever get a brain injury folks it sucks! Haha!

    Back to topic, I have heard nothing but positive about this tank of a pack.
     
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    Another thing that would be a good fit for this is London Bridge's Alipad, it's shoulder straps, waist belt and two hydration pouches in one pad for the ALICE frame.
     
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    Have one....working nicely.... all-back.JPG all-front.JPG camp06.JPG
     
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    Malcom. Made this pack off of my Norwegian Telemark rucksack. He does have a few people working for him, however he does QAQC all his gear, extensively. He only buys American made material and does a lot of R&D with each item. You do get what you pay for. I believe there's an option out there for everyone.
     

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    I have the LK35 Ruck, and a Kelty 65 Liter....I was looking for something in between when I saw Malcolm's video on these. I am also strictly an external frame guy. I like nothing but airspace on my back when rucking.

    I'm definitely getting one when I can swing it. Paying off some medical stuff right now. He mentioned that he was working on his own shoulder straps and waist belt for it, so hopefully he will finish that by the time I get around to purchasing one.

    This will be the first item on my list of "upgrading my kit", which is fine right now, with quality, budget items like the LK35, Husqvarna axe, that kind of thing, that I want to begin replacing with high quality, heirloom quality gear, this pack, Council Tool axe, and so on.
     
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    Took mine along some great trails in Tennessee, 30 some miles worth. Was a great pack, very very comfortable, and plenty of room!

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    (I had used the sawyer squeeze, and this is Malcolm’s mesh pouch for the sawyer. Small piece of paracord attached to the frame, the clip of the pouch attached and hung great).
     
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    I got one for my Birthday last month. It’s a nice pack and carries well.


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    Can you get to the pistol quickly.Do you think a 1911 style pistol with a thin holster "kydex" might fit ?
     
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    I can reach it, but it is not a quick-draw. I had my Browning HiPower back there, so the 1911 should fit.
     
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    Thanks a lot guys, just ordered the day ruck scout from him. I know it's not the same as is being talked about here but looks like it might be perfect for what I want and you guys led me to it!
     
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    Curious If anyone knows if this pack will work on an LK35 frame?
     
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    0CD70B4C-23E0-4DF1-8AC4-24E13DB7DDB5.jpeg Mine is mounted on a Downeast 1606 AC frame.
     
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    I just had mine delivered yesterday and I'm thrilled with it. With the malice frame and the waist pad that I'm using I actually get more length out of it for my long torso and it fits me really well. Appears to be really well made and will hold a ton of gear. The malice frame is so nice compared to a stock Alice frame.
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