The hidden woodsmen deep woods ruck

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  1. JosephDurham

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    Was curious if anyone here had gotten to try this pack out and their thoughts, reviews, pros, cons, et cetera?

    Thanks so much,

    Joseph
     
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    Good question.
    Every time I ask a question about Hidden Woodsmen gear it gets ignored. I wish there were more reviews on this gear. I've come close to taking the plunge a few times, but just not a lot of info.
     
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    Looks like a solid backpack, but the price seems steep.
     
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    I have one. It a well built pack, like all his others. Fits on the ALICE frame, but I got it to see if it would fit on a MOLLE II frame and it did. I have it loaded up and been doing some short rucks with it and it carries fantastic. You can Also fit 2 SS water bottles with cups in one pocket
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    I just discovered this pack yesterday.
    It really doesn’t cross me as overpriced. Their dayruck is the real unobtainium. 50 liter top loader with a lid @140 is a lot of capacity per dollar coming hidden woodsmen. I think it’s about his labor costs.

    My concerns about the deep woods ruck are with frame attachment.
    I might convinced at some point enough to drop on it eventually, it’s a really new pack and their aren’t enough pictures yet.
    I don’t want to wear an LC-2 frame on anymore packs. If peeps like it on a filbe frame,... that would be a strong selling point. Although fitting securely on a molle 2 would also be ok
     
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    For some reason we pay American Citizens more than 3rd world countrys. LL bean has plenty of 3rd world manufatured packs that are cheaper and i am sure the people that are working 18 hrs a day at 2 bucks are happy to get the work. Hope this doesn't come across wrong.
     
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    Price seems totally fair to me, I expected two and a half times that much. Takes a lot of work to stitch all that. If I had one of the plastic frames (Down east or something?) and needed something as large as 50L, I'd give this a go.
     
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    Easily agree here. Look at the price of some of the first run of Hidden Woodsman Haversacks (compared to some other USA made satchels which are often 2-3 times the cost). At $90 I love mine have put at least that amount of money back into it with mods/add-ons. For USA Handmade, value really does not get much better..... Go for it!
     
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    Thanks @Buck I ended up ordering the same color as you. I ordered it Saturday morning, and Saturday evening I already had shipping details. Very nice! Can’t wait to get it, along with a few other goodies I ordered for him. Should make the upcoming trip to the Smokies much more organized.

    Will post back when mine arrives.
     
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    I have been looking at the deep woods ruck and I am debating on picking one up.

    However, I would MUCH rather get my hands on this one HW made. He only made one of them for an auction, I wish he would do a run of them.
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  11. JosephDurham

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    Mine came in today guys. Along with a couple other goodies.

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    Photos of the frame side anyone who has one? Interested to see the sleeve, how it is sewn and the lower attachment points*

    Thanks
    Andy
     
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    That is nice looking
     
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    they are too cheap for what they are. i don't know how he's making any money on them.
     
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    I've got one as well. Like all of Malcolm's gear, it is very well made. The real struggle for me is deciding on the frame, straps, and belt I want to get to go with it.
     
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    Well, as of right now I have a cheaper ALICE frame that came with straps and belt. I have yet to get it attached to the frame yet, but I am hoping to do that this evening and then possible get some gear in it to get the feel of the pack.
     
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    Thank you. I certainly think so. I told my wife that these packs should be able to be handed down considering how well they have been made.
     
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    I wonder if anyone could take a guess (or pictures?) at the size or variety of third party belts that could fit? Wondering if it would make a nice frame-less option with the correct type of belt?
     
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    Hey guys!
    I was able to play around with the ruck some tonight and finally got it attached to the frame correctly.

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    The first thing I did was attach the top webbing through and around the top of the frame to add stability and keep the frame from slipping, which you can see here, I hope.

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    Then, just as Malcolm suggested I wrapped the webbing around the base of the frame and back through where the bedroll will attach.

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    Then, my gear being out in the shop, I just loaded it with things in the living room. Hahahah. Adjusted the two straps and let me tell you, this ruck is awesome!!! I cannot wait to get this out into the woods! I’ve never had a decent pack and this thing is built to last!!! This is one great piece of gear!
     
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    I would find it hard to believe he sews them all himself.
     
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    How much do you think it would cost to have something like that turned out by textile shop at low-volume with good QC? I'm imagining it is not cheap with quality materials. I know as much about sewing and manufacturing as I do about brain surgery though so I could be way off base LOL
     
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    A company I would look to, to get a feel for what retail costs are needed for high quality construction, 100% Made in the USA, CORDURA nylon packs would be Hill People Gear. Their little 2 pocket laptop sleeve with a shoulder strap is $1 more than the Deep Woods Ruck.

    The Duluth Pack Wanderer (which I used to own one of) is something I would estimate to be of equal or near production cost as the Ruck. It retails for $220.

    Those are both made inuch larger facilities that have the specialized machinery to speed up the process.

    You get what you pay for..
     
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    Don't forget that the Alice frame has a little storage room between the pack and the waist belt. I have carried my S&W Kit .22 back there for years, accessible but hidden so as not to draw attention. Holster clips on to the flat down-band of the frame and rides just fine there. I also went to the dark brown Deep Woods ruck, retiring my 50-year old Med. Alice pack. Wan ted the light brown but looked too much like the back end of a deer and felt I had a target on my back.
     

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