The homestead begins... This is going to be a long term post. :)

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  1. Geoffrey

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    Thank you both for the comments.

    Choosing what stays and what goes is something that once done cannot be undone. First we will take out the dead and standing and smaller trees and we will leave clumps of nice older trees. We are saving all the willow, birch, fir, etc and working around them or transplanting. Poplar covers most of our land, choosing good healthy trees will hopefully ensure they aren't blown down and dead anytime soon.
     
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    Sounds like you got a good handle on what trees to save or cut. Something a lot of folks struggle with is that good forest management often requires cutting and thinning trees. This actually improves forest vitality and reduces competition between neighboring trees. As well as helps reduce fire risks and opens space for wildlife and understory plants.

    From your pics and comments, seems like you have a good understanding of what your doing and how to go about it. Always nice to see rather than having to try and tell folks not to clear cut property or that they do indeed need to cut some trees. There is a good balance between these two and you seem to have found it. Look forward to many more updates.
     
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    Finally all the snags and hold ups are resolved and it looks like next week I will be digging my foundation!

    I will get more photos up.

    Thanks to all of you that have replied to this thread and expressed interest in what we are doing. The encouragement is most appreciated.
     
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    Last photos before the foundation gets excavated.


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    This small pit expands out to be our foundation site

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    Good first day.

    More to come.
     
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    The fun is beginning......Congrats
     
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    The upper driveway is starting to take shape

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    The start of our garden shed

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    Congratulations. The first step is always the hardest. Keep going. It will be well worth it.

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    This is awesome, can't wait to see how it turns out!

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    I've been waiting 2 years for the building to start. Bring it on. Excited for you. Keep us posted

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    Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and encouragement.

    I've got more photos to get up.

    We've been working on the footings this week.
     
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    Sorry for the delay in updates. Been super busy.

    Progress on the shed

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    Footings going in

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    Footings poured

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    ICF going up

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    Things were going smoothly with great weather...

    Then... The worst rainfall in 90 years started...

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    Turning all the dirt into this

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    It took DAYS of digging all by hand. This mud is INSANE to work in. It sticks to everything and weighs a ton. It clings to boots, shovels, and everything it touches. It was unbearable for days.

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    Finally we slugged through the mud long enough to get all the braces up

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    We got the walls poured and are finally gaining momentum.

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    We have a guy up river at our Place....everytime he digs or builds....I flat pours...
    So we call him if we have something to do and ask if he could hold off a few days....so we don't rained out.

    PS, helped him dig the mud out at his place.....you are correct....what a P I T A........
     
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    I can only imagine the frustration that goes with the "dig it out, do it over"....glad you got the concrete poured....it has to go smoother from here....I am looking forward to the rest of your build!!
     
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    Don't lose hope. Remember, the harder you work for something the sweeter it is in the end.

    How big is the main house?

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    That might be true....but you always hope for smooth sailing......
     
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    Agree 100%

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    Is this PT directly on grade for garden shed?

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    Thank you all for your feedback and encouragement. This has been a long and trying road for sure. We are happy to see progress and just need to get things tight before winter arrives.

    The house is just over 1600 square feet on the main floor and around the same in the basement. We will have a full basement suite covering about 1/2 the basement.

    The shed is currently on blocks and just above ground level. Once more land is cleared it'll be placed on skids and move to its permanent home where it will go up on concrete pilings/pads.

    We are truly fortunate to have family on both my side and my wife's side who have come along us to help.

    This is a dream coming true for us. I am happy to share it with you all. Thanks for your ongoing interest.
     
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    Just an update, things are finally taking shape. I will get some photos up in the coming days.

    Now it is a race to beat the bad weather. Oh the joys of living in Albertas north.
     
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    Good luck man. Keep us updated

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    Yes, thanks for sharing. As a builder, it's interesting to see good work. Looks like you have skilled people helping. I envy your location.

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    Good on ya! Homesteaders make the world a better place. Keep fighting the good fight!
     
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    Thank you all.

    We are now starting to lay flooring on the first floor then it is on to framing the main floor of the house.

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    I will get some more photos up soon.

    If anyone is interested I get photos up more often on tumblr at Log in | Tumblr
     
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    Working to get the basement walls up

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    The start of the laminated beam that will carry the floor joists

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    Floor joists going on

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    An Alberta storm rolling in

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    Other than the odd bit that we hired out so far dad and I have built this all ourselves, it is a LOT of work for two men especially moving things like the laminate beam
     
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    Today the walls started going up, we would frame them on the floor and do part of the sheathing then just two of us would stand them up. The longest wall was 32' long and one piece. It was HEAVY to say the least.

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    Lots of progress! The photos of the birch just glow - thank you gore bringing us along with you.
     
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    Agreed....just Gorgeous.....Thanks.
     
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    Coming right along.... Looking good my friend.
     
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    Thank you, today the septic system went in and tomorrow the roof trusses arrive. The winter weather is hitting early though so we need to get the house closed in asap.
     
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    Some more progress on the house

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    Winter storm rolled in and over 4 days we got a foot or more of snow that had to be shoveled out daily before we could start working.

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    Progress so far

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    Got the first gable up and on, raised this by hand... A lot of work for just two guys.

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    Wow! Serious progress. Thanks for the updates and it's looking great.
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    This is coming together nicely, hopefully you can get it dried in before the weather turns really bad.
     
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    That's a serious homestead house.

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    Thanks for the continued interest folks.

    Gotta get some more photos up, we are maybe half done the shingles and hope to start installing windows and doors in the next two weeks.

    The weather has been a major challenge this year, keep hoping to catch a break with the weather but no luck with that so far. lol
     
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    we built our house with ICF for the walkout basement and SIP for the main floor -- so I can sympathize with the amount of work you and your dad are doing. I thought it was bad enough putting ours up in a drought/heat wave, but framing in the snow sounds like even less fun.

    best of luck!
     
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    Thanks for your reply, a heat wave and drought would be bad to build in too for sure.
     
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    I used a soldering gun with homemade element to cut wiring chases into the foam - worked great, smelled horrible.
     
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    That's a good idea, we were told to use an old router and bit to cut channels for the wiring.

    I like your method though.

    I wanted to use SIP for the rest of the house but was concerned cost would be an issue. How were the SIP to work with?
     
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    I'd get some Tyvek over that chip board....doesn't do well in wet conditions.
    Just saying...
     
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    Tyvek will also help by adding an insulation layer. It's amazing how it cuts wind and holds some warmth for such a thin layer.

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    Thank you both, Tyvek is going on next week I think. By code I believe the windows and doors need to be in first.
     
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    SIPs go up pretty easy - they're 4' wide panels that tongue and groove together, so once the first corner is up, you raise a panel, tap it sideways until it's snug against the one next to it, and drive a bunch of screws up the seam (inside and out) to tie them together.
    our house has a 32x44 footprint. It took 5 people a week to assemble the shell once the basement was cured and backfilled.
    Monday we framed the rooms in the basement
    Tuesday morning we set floor joists and rim joists.
    Tuesday afternoon we started decking the floor - and finished that at noon on Wednesday.
    we put the first panel up at 1 PM on Wednesday and had all the walls up by noon on Thursday.
    We used 10" thick panels for the roof.
    Thursday afternoon, once the ridge beam was in place, we did site cleanup and set the first 2 roof panels.
    Friday we put the rest of the roof panels up.
    Saturday we slept until 10 or so.....
     
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    That sounds like a slick way to build. Lots faster than stick framing.
     
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    the kit costs more than a pile of lumber, but the time savings makes up for the difference if you're paying help -- and the savings in heating and cooling is impressive. we heat and cook with propane and only go through about 400 gallons a year.
    My worst electric bill in the 8 years we've been in this house was under $140 -- and that was a record breaking summer for temps here.
    It felt more like southern Tx than Northern Ks that year! :11:
     
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    For us we need to go lower cost on material since the labor is free :) Building in this part of Canada is extremely expensive and qualifying for a mortgage here is tricky too since all the daily costs of living really make it difficult to save or reduce debts.

    There are lots of things I wish we could have done differently but time and costs weren't in our favor.

    I enjoy hearing your experience with ICF and SIP, thanks for sharing.
     
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    there is 2" of foam insulation under the basement slab.
    we also did a strip vinyl floor directly on top of the concrete slab in the basement.
    due to these 2 things and the thermal barrier from the ICF walls, our floor doesn't get very cold in the winter - I can comfortably walk around barefoot even in February.
    we had also run pex tubing in the slab for future radiant heat, but it stays warm enough down there we never bothered shelling out the extra $2k for the spare water heater, manifold, & pump.
     
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