The "New Place" - Beginnings of a MO Homestead

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  1. Dadio

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    (Edited July 2019: The Photobucket fiasco had me pessimistic about this thread because of all the images that were lost. Once they changed their policy and allowed the images to be shown again then I decided to continue with this thread, but I lost a year plus of updates. Below is the remainder of the post after my original bellyaching about PB.)

    There's not a lot to update! I've broken my little Husqvarna lawn tractor twice in the last month, having no fun repairing it. It put me off the idea of a cheap starter tractor from the 50's or 60's because my time is limited and I'd rather spend it doing things with a tractor rather than doing things to fix a tractor. I'm taking a trip to the Kubota dealer to see what they have. I may look at other brands as well but my gut so far is telling me to go orange and I probably will. Even though there's over 45 acres here and over 40 acres at the other place the actual acreage I will maintain with it would be more like 5-10. I plan on taking Hunter63's advice and go a bit bigger than I absolutely need to, so a utility sized tractor rather than compact or subcompact. We'll see where my ambition and pocketbook line up.

    Garden is going well. I've got the fight with Japanese beetles like everyone else it seems. Found a nice apple tree and what look like two other old fruit trees, one of which is being ravaged by the beetles and one with a good crop of smaller apples. Next year we will prune and spray them and see what we really have.
     
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    The photo bucket thing is going to mess up a lot of people.......
    Still debating if I gonna go all in not...
    To bad the forum doesn't have an easy way for use old times that are not rell computer literate to ppsy directly.
     
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    You can definitely post directly, as in uploading into the post. Right below the window you type a response in, there is a button labeld "Upload a File," to the right of the "Post Reply" button.
     
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    I have enjoyed following both threads, and hope you will continue sharing your progress.
    The Photobucket issue has obviously caused an issue with lots of threads....when I see a post with the "pay us some money or you can't see your photos" message, it just causes me to think "never use Photobucket....YMMV
     
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    Some updates: we have a contract for the earlier The Place property which will clear up enough funds for a construction loan to build a home on the New Place. That's very exciting. The lesson learned from this is to not let yourself get talked into A lengthy contract with a realtor. The first one we had basically just told prospective buyers where it was and let them to it. The new realtor actually went out and sold the place and got a contract in three weeks. So, not yet closed but it looks good.

    We did get a new tractor. Went with a Kubota L series with loader, bush hog and box blade. Only had it about a week but really like it. IMG_20170810_111400_399.jpg IMG_20170806_141139.jpg

    Also met with the architect about the new house. That was actually a lot of fun, describing what you've thought about how you want to live, what is important to you, what you like and not. Feels like we are making real progress.

    (Edited July 2019: For several months I posted to the "what did you do on your homestead" thread instead of continuing here.)
     
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    Congrats....Looks like good process is well under way......
    Hopefully you will keep posting your progress.

    Congrats on the tractor....NICE.

    You are going yo find soooo many thing to use that tractor for....you will wonder why the heck didn't do this before.
     
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    Thanks for the update. I have really enjoyed following your progress on both "Places".....
    @hunter63 is absolutely right....you will really enjoy your tractor....
     
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    F0B89154-433F-40FC-B959-2FCD7DCBEDB9.jpeg Well, it’s been a couple years since we updated this thread. We spent the time making small improvements here and there but today was a big day. We broke ground on our new home! I’ll likely bore you with home construction photos but if you are into that, then enjoy!
     
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    This week's update:
    Excavation is complete. They hit some bedrock a foot or so earlier than expected but it's not a serious problem - just means some more fill for the walkout design. Don't know if anyone is interested in seeing the plans but if so I'll post them up. Footings and foundation will be poured on Monday.

    Momio and I put some sturdy shelving in the machine shed to get better organized and lift some stuff off the floor. It's a big improvement.

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    It's spring turkey season so I spent a couple hours under a hedge tree watching ticks walk across my clothes while I was making pathetic hen calls. Didn't see or hear anything resembling a tom but I did get to listen to the creek and scare the crap out of a racoon and watch birds fight for territory and a painted turtle walk slowly toward the creek, so it was a successful hunt anyway.

    Took some photos on my way out. Some handsome bobwhite quail were walking down the road.
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    Lettuce and onions doing well. Spinach never germinated - may have been old seed. Apple, peach, berries and grapes look good. Hazelnut that I thought had died is sending out some greenery down low, so maybe it will make it. Beautiful weather, great companionship and progress on the home. I'll need to knock on some wood but it has been a fine day.

    Thanks for reading!
     
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    Hello dadio. I’ve not seen your thread before. Nice journey. I’m glad you updated it or I probably would have missed it. Have a great day .
     
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    Hy, im looking forward to read more about your adventure!
     
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    An older photo showing the raised beds we built, the old barn and some visitors.
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    It’s been a wet week with rain nearly every day and taking detours into work around flooded roads. No progress on the new home until yesterday and today when more rebar and forms were built. Momio and I spent yesterday and today after church cleaning the raised beds, turning in the chopped leaves, straw and grass clippings into the soil along with several bags of composted manure. We also put straw mulch down in the onion beds.

    The small tree we planted is an Arkansas Black Apple which is disease resistant and a good keeping apple. We have a couple very old apple trees that have been hit hard by storms and disease and which I believe I’m going to take down. We’ve planted two now and will plant a couple more.

    I attached the brush hog today and knocked down some ground that runs to burdock, thistles and ragweed. I’ll try to keep on top of that area in hope that the grass can take over. My sinuses insist!
     
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    Brief update: walls were poured today and some large stone for the driveway.
     
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    The bolt on forks for the tractor work great for moving brush. Got the garden planted and mulched, and the house build is making progress.

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    They should pour the basement floor today or Monday. We chose to dye the concrete for the floor so we don’t have to be concerned with tile or some other flooring. Was an economical move as well. I’m curious to see how it turns out.
     
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    @Dadio ....I enjoyed seeing your progress on the "old" place....and rejoiced with you when you started on the "new" place. Thanks for sharing your journey.
     
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    It all looks amazing, congratulations on some beautiful property! I can't wait to find our little "corner of the world" and do something similar.

    Jim
     
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    Working on replacing the leaky roof on the machine shed. My buddy laughs at OSHA regs apparently. And some random other pics, including the dyed concrete floor for the basement.
     
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    You beat me to it. I was just going to comment on how much I liked your OSHA compliant man lift! :D
     
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    Roof looks better. And drier. Still more to do but we got done what we could with the time we had.
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    Momio and I did some shopping for the new house - you would be surprised how many lights there are to pick out! We are sticking with all LED lights so the cost is a bit more on the front end. We didn’t get halfway done, but we got some of the way done.

    Momio thought the roof looks good. It’s a big improvement functionally and aesthetically over the old one. We only replaced two purlins which is a testament to rough sawn red oak.

    Thinned out the carrots. Man are they sweet!
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    That’s it for today. Thanks for reading!

    PS, I found old porch columns in the rafters of the machine shed. We will be having a big kitchen island (42”x 96”) and it will need some legs on the overhang side so I think I will strip and cut down the porch posts for that purpose. Add a little character to the joint!
     
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    Garden is going strong although we are already battling insect damage. And something ate my first bunch of grapes (I’m guessing deer.).

    House build is progressing although we lost a couple weeks to bad weather. The two earth contact walls in the basement have had French drains and insulation installed. The barrier between concrete and sills was laid down and framing will start Monday. Momio and I ran a cooler with water, Gatorade and soda out there for the workers. Figured it couldn’t hurt and it will be a hot week working on the dyed concrete floors we chose.
     
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    They are putting up the walls on the lower level, basically one guy and an young Amish man. It’s being well built and I’ve not spotted a single cut corner yet. Pretty exciting to see the rooms come together and how the views out the windows will be.

    Bought some more material to get going again on my little wood shop, and will have to see if I can get the little gennie going to power things until we can get some electrical service to the machine shed. Keep an eye out for pics about that,

    If the weather cooperates we should get the hay cut next week. Talked to a neighbor who does some earth moving about taking down some old fence rows and groves of locusts and then maybe adding a good sized pond.

    It’s busy around here with trying to take care of our current home, the new homestead and my mother’s place. Plus little things like my job and family, but busy is good and beats sitting on my butt.

    That’s about it this week. If there’s anything you’d like me to discuss or show, let me know!
     
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    The garden and the metal covered log cabin in the background. They are done with framing the lower level and brought in a small crane to set some steel that will hold up the great room/dining room of the main floor. They also got the subfloor glued and screwed down so more progress. We've been filling the cooler every other day.
     
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    Good weather after a storm on Sunday that allowed the hay to be cut finally.
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    First carrot, and a local resident checking out the tree across the road.
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    DSC_0143.JPG House and garden coming along well this week. The exterior walls on the upper level are basically complete and some of the interior as well. One of the neat things is seeing the views from the windows. The room with the four windows in the photos below is the master bedroom and the view from those is really nice, looking over a field that will eventually hold a good sized pond. The windows in the east side of the home look over a creek and some bottom land but I'll have to do some trimming of brush and small trees to be able to see much when the vegetation is leafed out. This week was the first time we are able to just walk into the upper floor without using a ladder. The garage is prepped for the concrete pad which should get poured tomorrow. We met with the contractor to finalize some details and he said he estimated completion in October, which seems a long way away but in reality will be here before we know it. After being awakened by fireworks very late last night (including hearing some land on our roof), we can't wait.
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    Garden really took off this week. The cattle panel arches are working very well for the cukes and pole beans. The tidal wave of zukes and cukes has arrived so I'll be annoying family and friends with produce soon. Should have the first tomatoes within a couple weeks, and we picked the first of the peppers (nothing is more dramatically different from what you get in a store vs a home grown veg than peppers and tomatoes). I need to finish the brick pavers but I'm waiting on a load of fines from the local quarry to use as a base. And time and inclination to get the job done.
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    What else? The Husqvarna lawn tractor I bought a few years back has never had enough height on the mower deck even when fully raised. According to some forums the reason is that they cheaped out and put undersized tires on the front, so I bought some 16" wheels and tires to replace the nominally 14" (more like 13" in reality) wheels and tires it came with and there was a dramatic improvement. I'm still mowing at max height but no longer having near the problems with bottoming out and cutting the ground that I had before. It's one of those simple things that you kick yourself for not doing long before.

    The hay was baled - boy, the fields look nice mowed. I've got a couple trees down from storms that I need to cut into firewood and now that the fields are mowed I can actually get to them.

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    That's about it. Thank you for reading!
     
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    Oh yeah, bought seventy some board feet of black walnut, two inches thick, from a local supplier to make the top of the kitchen island. We worked on buttoning up my little wood shop as well including a more permanent ceiling. At present I don't have any power to the building since we moved the previous power pole and the new service hasn't been installed to either the house or the machine shed/workshop, so I'm either using battery/hand power or running a small generator which isn't quite powerful to smoothly start my chop saw or table saw. I'm hoping that once they get the house weather tight they will run the power to it as well so, if need be, I'll run some heavy extension cords from the house to the shop.

    I'd installed a circuit that allows me to plug in a cord from a generator or another power source to a male end housed in a weather proof box on the exterior wall of the workshop that is similar to regular outdoor outlets but in reverse. That circuit has no power to it until it is plugged in, so there's no danger of feeding power back into main lines or anything - it's just like a permanently installed extension cord but with regular household wiring and outlets. While it works well, my main tools just draw a bit too much power on startup to make me comfortable using it for more than lights or a small air conditioner.

    In any case, I'll be working on a jig to help me square the long edges of the walnut on the table saw. Given that I have till sometime in late September or October, I think I can get the project done.
     
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    Garage slab was poured this week. We specified that there had the slab had to be at the level of the home floor itself as my wife is an OT and wants the home to be wheelchair accessible from the jump. We also have a roll in shower with a bench and three foot wide doors into all the rooms. Just trying to plan ahead for that eventuality.

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    The garden is exploding with produce, so we shared with four neighbors. I’m not above leaving a bag of cucumbers hanging from a doorknob if I need to.

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    There are two rooms I’m responsible for designing. One is a den where there will be some built in shelves and computer station, and one is a 12x16 screen porch. They drilled the holes for the porch and deck which helps give an idea of their size and layout. There will be a concrete patio stretching below the deck and screen porch which should be nice as well (might be a good place for a shooting bench facing a range cut into the woods.)

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    Exterior and interior walls up and sheathed, including the garage. Patio under the screen porch and deck in the back was also poured and seems huge! The roof trusses arrived yesterday and they are building the gables so soon we should have a roof on the place.

    Garden is in the mega production phase so we are picking as quickly as we can. Onions are ready to pull and braid. We had a great crop this year. We have been giving cucumbers and squash away by the tons it seems, but the squash bugs have arrived and so that will likely stop soon. We tried need oil with no success, and can’t keep ahead of the eggs manually, so I resorted to Sevin, which I really hate to do, so we will see if that knocks them back some. Carrots also need pulled, so the garden may start to look a little bare. Momio has an artichoke experiment going and that is a cool plant.

    These are from late late last week, but show most of the progress.
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    That’s about it. I am working on buttoning up my little wood shop so hopefully I’ll be showing some of those projects soon. I have a kitchen island and a bunch of shelving and benches to put together before or soon after we move in. Completion date is now sometime in October. Lost about a month to rain but with the prospect of being weather tight soon that shouldn’t remain an issue.
     
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    It is really neat watching your home being built, I know when we built hours a few years ago, I couldn't wait to get there of an afternoon and see what all had been accomplished that day. I hope you enjoy your place as much as I do mine, it is a never ending work but rewarding. I have to move my raised beds now because we decided to add some additional pasture and I had thought their location out enough when I put them in but as you have pointed out having a tractor with a front end loader takes a lot of work out of a lot of projects.
     
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    Took of part of the workday to watch the trusses being lifted into place.

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    The house is huge! Big family?
    Love the garden!
     
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    Just the wife and myself as our children are grown and live in their own homes. We have been living in the same suburban home for 26 years with limited room for my wife’s home based business and all the gear associated with our interests. We built this one based on having room for our business and hobbies. The footprint on each floor, not including the garage, is about 1650 square feet (a little more than 150 square meters) which is fairly typical for new homes in the area. Technically five bedrooms but only the master and guest rooms will be used as such, with others turned into a den, office and exercise room. Our family get-togethers are fairly huge, with thirty or so folks, so we wanted enough room to hold those as well.

    All the halls and doors are larger than normal to accommodate the possibility of needing to use a wheelchair. The garage floor is the same level as the main floor so you can wheel in without a ramp or step and the master shower is large enough to accommodate a wheelchair as well.
     
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    When I was much younger, I wanted a two story house with all the bedrooms up stairs. A friend built my "dream home" for his family. In later life it created problems for him. Having the main floor on ground level makes a lot of sense to me....now. I like the idea of having the semi-basement that opens on level ground.
    My current home is one story and wheel chair accessible. Even though my desire is to never need those accommodations the reality is, that possibility exists.
    Thanks for sharing your ongoing project at the "New Place".
     
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    I can understand the need for space, the two of us could easily fill five bedrooms and the three kids would need another four :D
    Basement would be full of freezers so that would need to be added too :18:
     
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    Tons of produce this evening! Squash is gone, all the onions are harvested, cukes are strong and artichokes are close. Grabbed the first of the watermelons but that was premature. Beans are full of blooms so they should come on soon.
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    Been awhile since I checked this thread out. Awesome stuff man. Congrats on all your accomplishments. :dblthumb:
     
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    Some more progress on the home build with foil backed roof sheathing that apparently dramatically reduces solar gain in the attic. The garden is pumping out produce like you wouldn’t believe, especially cucumbers and onions. We made our first pickles and have been busy drying and bagging onions. We should be about three months from moving in and can’t hardly wait!

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    A couple other angles showing the garage and kitchen/dining room walls. We picked out plumbing fixtures so that the rough in plumbing can be installed next week. Talked to the framer about the fireplace and the hearth. He is going in for a biopsy next week to rule in\out cancer. His name is Robin and he could use some prayers.

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    Had a couple buddies up to help me finish the other side of the machine shed roof. Great improvement over the rusty and leaky one before. The builders were hard at it wrapping up the roof sheathing which is now complete other than the front and rear porches. The plumber came and measured out the rough ins and the wife and I picked out the fixtures.

    Garden is going well, with a total harvest of onions about 40 lbs and still lots of cukes and tomatoes. We have several watermelons as well, and the beans are in flower. Finished picking the last of the carrots including a warped and twisted one.

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    More photos of the home build. Next is the roofing which should be done this week as well as HVAC and maybe some plumbing rough ins. The screen porch is going to be one of my favorite rooms.
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    Been there done that, back in 1992. My farm was a wreck which is why we could afford it. Property is very expensive in nj. Modular house was relatively new but was abused by teens while parents were going through divorce. Pole barn was sound, but had to be gutted, etc. But was young and it was what we wanted, full steam ahead. My wife likes to say, all the farm needed was love. And we do love it, and it shows. One mistake we made was we didn't take pictures of what it looked like before. Our farm has been on tv couple times (channel 13), magazines etc. Very proud of you and your choice. Best wishes from Dana Ray farm.
     
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    All the roof structure finally done including the front porch. Roofing felt installed and after a week of being told ‘tomorrow ‘ it looks like the shingles will actually be installed today. Windows and exterior doors are delivered and beginning to be installed. We did have a mixup and the French doors didn’t have the blinds installed so they go back.
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    Shingles 90% complete, hearth for the fireplace framed in, decking down, and the transom windows raised a bit. Oh, and they replaced the French doors with the correct ones. On the other hand, the stone supplier went out of business so we have to pick stone yet again. All in all, a productive week.

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    IMG_20190901_101719_750.jpg Working on the built in bench. Grabbed some of the barn wood, oak that made up the slat wall of a corn bin. Pulled the nails, double checked with a hand held metal detector wand, then used a random orbit sander ( a pawn store steal of a Dewalt for $20) with 60 grit paper to get the worst of the dirt and grime off, then ran through a planer. I’ll run through a jointer tomorrow and then glue up the main panel. The photo above shows the stages from right out of the barn to rough sanded to planed. I think it will look really good and I like the idea of having a bit of the old barn reused for the next several decades.

    They are still installing window trim and blocking for the exterior lights and the flashing that will go between the Hardie board and the stone work. Basically a hundred little things that have to be prepped before the siding can go on.

    Ran the brush hog with the Kubota for an hour or so, cutting paths to deer stands and tower blinds while Momio worked in the garden and mowed. Can’t wait till things like that are just a matter or walking out our door rather than loading the pickup and driving back and forth.

    Anyway, that is about it for this week’s update. Thanks for reading!
     
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    @Dadio Thank you for taking the time to share this grand adventure with us. I have enjoyed following your progress from "The Place" to your "New Place". Following these projects feels like I am driving by and waving to you and Momio as I head to town....
     
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