Ti-Strike R&D Results

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  1. C Bryant

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    Found two new rocks I like. No idea what they are, other than smooth river stones. Smoother rocks are definitely the way to go.

    I was gifted some Chaga and since we dont have it around here Inhad to try it out! It was quite easy to get the spark on the chaga.



     
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    I have got to say this just isn't for me. tried a large size of yellow jasper that strikes like a king with normal flint and steel. absolutely no sparks.
     
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    I can send you a couple rocks that work for me if you would like.
     
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    no, that is ok...thanks
     
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    @C Bryant Have you tried the chaga in the Triune fire piston. I have heard that it works really well, but I haven't ever gotten a hold of any to try it out.
     
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    I was going to do it yesterday too but ran out of time. I will do it today
     
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    So I got invited to play with the new Ti Striker. One arrived today, with some supplies to try out with the striker.

    Right off of the go my wife and I both got immediate sparks. One landed on my hand, definitely hot!

    Lots more pictures and videos to follow soon.

    Thanks,

    Jarrod
     
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    Sorry about the angle. I didn't realize the image was rotated, and I have no idea how to rotate it back.

    Magnesium shavings ignition

     
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    Came back to try it again after reading through the comments.

    Consistent weak sparks when batoning but that's all. Noticed in the videos successful ignition takes about 50 plus strikes. My ferro rods take 3 to 5 and often just 1 with the same material. Using cotton for comparison. I'll still play with it but when a fire is planned not so much. I cook outside most of the time and need to keep it simple, reliable and inexpensive.

    I'll keep playing with it but it's likely .not for me
     
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    James. My Ti-Strike is here. This year has just caught me off guard in terms of available free time, but I hope to contribute in the coming week or 2.

    Off the cuff impressions and some impromptu rock stabbing. There is a learning curve. There is some consideration in rock selection (I think anyways, we'll see if technique improves and if less optimal rocks can be used) . People expecting to "shower" material with sparks will be disappointed. This is a somewhat noisy method with smacking the rocks, and I urge anyone on public land not to mar up and easily viewed large rock features trying this method out. I can speak more later when I have time to take it beyond some sparks.

    In terms of design, I said before hollowing the handle for a watertight tinder case might be a nice addition unless it affects durability. Knurling as mentioned may improve the looks and general feel, however given how you hold this striker the smooth titanium is sufficient so far. Balancing production cost and final product cost will be a major factor here to compete with other spark based products. What about shape? Would a standard (probably cheaper to produce) titanium C shaped striker perform better/worse and give you more rock selection over quartz and cherts?

    Thanks again my man for the package! I need to watch all the videos in this thread and see if I can improve my shanking technique.
     
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    They went in the completely wrong direction but just look at those beautiful sparks. :)

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    I think I'm kind of getting the hand of it.

     
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    Well done!
     
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    First successful ignition for me, though I've gotten erratic sparks before. I, uh, "liberated" a couple of stones from a parking lot yesterday.
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    These looked unusual for the area, but I thought I would try them as others had success with stones with a river rock appearance.
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    (By the way, the Ti-strike fits perfectly in the belt sheath for a mini Mag-light.) I set up with fluffed jute twine.
    Several strikes in, I noticed shavings of titanium coming off, but no sparks. You can see these flecks caught in the tinder bundle.
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    Finally, I got some sparks, and got one to catch into the jute.
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    (Edit to add)
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    I like your sheath. i think I have something similar around here. A hunting I shall go. Thanks!
     
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    Wow so its been a little while since I posted on this thread. I have been doing a ton of research and testing and have made some changes to the Ti-Strike to get it to throw more sparks with less force. Here are some videos showing the new one in action.

    I am going to launch this as a pre-order very soon. If I hit my goal and raise enough money to buy the materials in bulk I would like to send one of the new versions to anyone that wasn't successful or happy with the results of first version. Let me know what you think and message me if you want to be added to the upgrade list because you didn't get the results you wanted the first time around.



     
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    I DID get my Ti Strike. Finally. lol Just now finding time to play with it. Got a bunch of rocks in my yard that I'm trying out. No real luck yet. Going to look through the comments to see if I can find any tricks and tips.
     
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    I collected a bunch of river rocks for this yesterday. I plan on doing some more testing today. :D

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    Took the 1st gen and 2nd gen to the river the other night to compare them both side by side on different rocks here's the results. So far the 2nd gen has out performed the 1st on most of the rocks I've tried and the lanyard hole is a great improvement. More to come
     
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    Thanks,

    Jarrod
     
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    Good stuff! Your video just gave me an idea. I'll try it out and report back soon. :)
     
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    Wood shavings and wood curls are a go!

    Hiking- tracking kit...

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    Chopped up some wood, make digging stick...

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    Make wood curls, shavings, and scrapings...

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    Make sure fingers are not in striking path!

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    Also make sure camera phone is safe distance away...

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    Thanks,

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    Feather stick ignition

     
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    Was that real time or were you striking before the video started? I never would've guessed that it would lite a feather stick.

    Every time I've headed to the woods lately its been dumping the rain down, or 90 degrees! Hopefully soon I can get out and test mine some more.
     
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    I cut the video to show the ignition. The total time was 3min 6 sec not counting making the curls. I can upload it, just a little boring.

    I have been trying to ignite things other than flash tinder since the spark os so hot. That was pine. I tried with birch but was inpatient and did not get my curse thin enough.
     
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    Was just curious but 3 minutes still isn't bad at all.
     
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    Hmm ... I've always found the inability to get a fire started to thicken my 'cursing' ;)
     
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    My cursing thickened when I was trying with the birch.
     
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    Curious if a tungsten striker has been tried with this? Seems like it would stand to reason if material removal is the object of the game
     
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    Or even a diamond stone
     
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    @ArmyMacE @C Bryant @bacpacjac Awesome posts and testing! I haven't been on the forum in a bit and for some reason I didn't get the notifications that you guys posted on my thread. Thank you all for testing out the Ti-Strike and giving me such good feedback.

    Also just a heads up for everyone following this thread, I will be posting some blem Ti-Strikes tomorrow so if anyone wants one of the new ones with the new grade of titanium that throws much better sparks be on the lookout for my post in the classifieds section. I will have some in orange, black, and silver that have minor cosemetic damage but function perfectly.
     
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    @krflol I have tested the Ti-Strike with a carbide scraper and it did not throw off sparks. I think there is a certain amount of impact energy required to get the shavings to ignite.
     
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    hello,
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    THOSE ARE SOME HOT SPARKS!
     
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    @Primordial EXACTLY ^^^^ :eek: geeze whizz, jings, crivens, help ma Boab murder Polis... & I forgot to add cough, splutter, gasp, wheeze!! = exaggerated speechlessness :4: LOL
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    COOOL!! This little thing is fun!
     
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    hello,
    Cousin @bacpacjac ^^^^ this got me thinking, Blastmatch or lightsaber Titanium striker? :cool:
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    :eek: screams Gen2 it's Wullie Pete in a stick!! :4: LOL
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    Received my ti-strike today and was able to catch the included jute in under a minute using the included rock. I will say that this definitely does not seem like a survival item or a safe bushcraft item given the additional risk of injuring your hand you are subjecting yourself to, but it’s really cool...or hot. I had a few close calls although I was wearing a leather glove due to my apprehension to injury.
     
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