Tired of hearing "Survival Situation"

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  1. hunter63

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    LOL, Where have you been?....Duh.....It's "seriously".....now.......seriously......
    Just funnin'
    Excuse me I have to get on with survivin' now.........(go for a walk)
     
  2. RangerJoe

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    That must have taken you 2 hours to type that Terry...

    Great point, I go to the woods for day trips to practice skills and exersize the dog....I go on camping trips to fish, and enjoy the new scenery, and hang out with friends.
     
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    Thank you Bushcraft Diva!
     
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    I'm going to admit it: I like going to the woods.
     
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    Wait till you get older. A lot of things people say and do will tick you off. :9:
     
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    Thanks IA. I am pretty new to this board but from what I am learning about Bushcraft is that these are pretty much the same skills that were done hundreds if not thousands of years ago and back the it was just called living.

    My biggest problem when I go into the woods is that I really don't want to go back home. To me it's more of a survival situation just being in the city. I told the kids that if anything happened to their mom I was selling everything and going as far out as I could get.
     
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    But but but Terry...... How are all those Survival Gurus gonna make a living if you keep spreading all this truth around? I mean really?! We can't have you disrupting a multi million dollar a year industry that is based on fear mongering and what-if scenarios.
     
  8. IA Woodsman

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    I dont think they have anything to worry about.
     
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    Thanks AI and everyone else. I get tired of most of the extreme discussions whether it be survival, preparedness, food, durability for life, the lightest, the sharpest, the best this way or that way,,,,hogwash. Reverence for nature is something i embrace and what i take out there is just my stuff.

    bill
     
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    Looks like everyone on the board agrees with you Terry.

    Who wooda thunk it?
     
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    I was going to leave it at using the "thanks" button, but it's just not enough. I want to be a skilled woodsman, not a survivalist. I want to keep a good stock of supplies around of stuff I use, and to buy extra of the stuff I use because it makes good financial sense and keeps me from wasting time running to the store, not because I'm a "doomsday prepper." My grandparents weren't "preppers" or "survivalists" and they did the same thing. I'm tired of the hype.
     
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    I guess because planting rice the hard way ain't all that romantic when in fact it's what we do when we all go out with good friends for some good time in the woods...

    I would call a weekend with you and some other gents "Real Survival"!!
     
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    QFT!!!
     
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    There have been a few silly fools that I know of who have attempted the above :D :D :D
     
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    How about the u2bers with 80lb packs doing overnights or whatnot and saying " in a survival situation " in every step they take .
     
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    Ooh-Rah buddy!
     
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    I consider every shift at work a survival situation. Is that bad?
     
  18. IA Woodsman

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    Welllllll that was just for fun.
     
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    Very wise and true words! I just wish they'd quit calling things "survival" and "tactical" Tactical pants?? I doubt that, my 5.11 trousers gave layed there for weeks and never even dug a fighting position. It is all used for marketing purposes, with a lot of success even.
     
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    AMEN, Brother! Been thinking the same thing...
     
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    Wow -Go away for awhile and I have to read through 8 pages.feels good,I think this is a corner that needed to be turned -I almost feel like posting again.good rant grumpy pants I feel the same way in fact if I get lost for days in the bushes of southern Ontario I don't even deserve to survive -thx man
     
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    Basically, I'm only on here to basically effect my reality in a real situation..............Brother
     
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    Sgt MAC! Your survivability has been increased BROTHER!
     
  24. IA Woodsman

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    Basically
     
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    I'm an old Boy Scout who still lives by their motto: "Be Prepared". So when I'm out I prepare so that I'm not likely to be in a "survival situation".
     
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    Spent a lot of my life in the woods, working, playing, chasing hounds, some days [or nights] are better than others. After 36 yrs of marrige, I'm still ill prepared for when the SHTF. Thanks Terry, great post!......Uncas
     
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    You never know though when your float plane might hit a flock of geese and go down way off course and you have to fight your way back to civilization while a bloodthirsty Griz tracks you . Admittedly kinda unlilely in Indiana but like I said the float plane was way off course .
     
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    BrotherTerry I Agree with You. My Dad showed Me true bushwhacking, Growing up in Maine My Brother and I was shown the ways to hunt,fish, and basic ways to stay warm,dry if We got lost, And I thank Him! Here at BCUSA it's Like a second chapter of it! Thank You.
     
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    In my humble opinion, if using the catch phrase "survival" gets a TV addicted family to maybe take a moment to step outside, learn a skill, or think about preparedness, then I'll tolerate the term all day long. There's a lot of garbage on television, but least the "survival" cliche shows people that at some level, they just might not live in an idealized bubble protected from the world.
     
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    But the world IS ending next week, I just read an internet post that told me so.
    I'll stop calling it my "Survival" kit and start calling it what it actually is; which is my "Stupid kit" and I need it because I did something stupid which kept me away from my camp and all the gear or out in the bush overnite when I should have been at home in front of the telly watching cartoons and doing dishes.
     
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    No argument here T. I also am tired of hearing "survivability"
     
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    About time, people act like little babies when it comes to being in the woods now. I go to the woods to enjoy it. I hate ignorant people that think the only reason to be in the woods is to practice your "survival skills" to get yourself out of the woods. I'm not going to the woods to get away from home or anything else, I'm going to the woods to be at home.
     
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    I'm just saying........ABOUT F'N TIME SOMEBODY SAID IT!!!! I've been so tired of hearing about "surviving" for so long, it almost made me think I was doing something wrong when I went to go play in the woods because I enjoy it. I'm pretty sure Terry has said if you are surviving your not having fun and if your having fun, your not surviving.
    Thanks Terry!

    J
     
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    i to have had enough of the survival/zombie/2012 talk.
    i have a small piece of land that me and the wife go to and hang out on the weekends, some times we just head out after work on friday with little planning. therefore i keep some things in my explorer for just such occasions ie. axe saw tarp small pack dry soup mix etc.
    well one of my coworkers saw the stuff in my truck and wouldn't you know it now i am a survivalist, prepper,doomsday nut case etc.
    yes i have stuff in my truck if that makes me crazy then so be it , do i plan for the end of the world? yes i have a relationship with my lord and savior. that is the only prepping i need to do
     
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    Well, it kinda depends on what the girl is wearing, and what she looks like. :9:

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    Terry said it good enough for me.
     
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    Sure, I use mil-surp gear to hump my kit into and out of the woods or what not. Yeah, some of it looks a little tactical, but what do you do? It's mil-surp. Every person's kit is different. Hell, most of us here have multiple packs for different reasons. As long as you're not acting like a total jack a$$ when you're out in the wilds, I don't think it matters much at all. Respect yourself, respect others, and respect your environment; is how I feel about it all. I think a person ends up in a 'survival situation' due to bad planning or lack of thinking. I don't camp to refine my 'survival' skills. I camp and work on bush skills because they're useful in many scenarios, and because I like being away from it all. I can appreciate somebody asking for information on gear; but, there is no 'best' thing to have anywhere. The tools you take with you should reflect the type of work you plan on doing. Some take few tools, others take the whole tool box. Who am I to say it's wrong if it works for them? As long as what I have works for me, that's all that really matters. I'm not opposed to learning something new or being exposed to new ideas. That's how we grow. But I'm with you guys in saying that the best tools one can have are the tools they have with them coupled with the knowledge and experience in using said tools.
     
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    I think it takes a certain degree of self esteem and security to admit this. I think some of (most of?) the survival stuff is insecurity puffed into aragance. I hate it for all the reasons above and because it it means I have to defend myself for enjoying the activities that were common fare in the not distant past.
     
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    "We do it for fun."

    That and the chance to learn are the only reasons I'll ever need.
     
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    What I think is funny is that there's always a few who totally misconstrue the original posts like these. Hahaha. It always brings out the anti gear guys even though it has nothing to do with what you said.
     
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    You know I love "back to basics" gear sales.
     
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    To be serious I came to this place through a roundabout series of stuff. After the disaster here on 3/11 I realized we needed to be better prepared as a family. So I started searching and ended up building a bug-out bag and having a plan and etc. But after that at some point it hit me why am I still reading this stuff? It just seems like the people that do keep reading it are hoping for something to happen and it is pointless really. About that same time I started hiking and getting outdoors again and decided no this is what I really love. This is what I want to learn, this has a point, funnily enough too right after I got myself pretty scared a few times by getting lost or near dehydration last summer. Thanks be someone mentioned bushcraft on a survival site I read and I found this place and haven't looked back. I still like those shows personally but I do cringe when I hear the words "survival situation" especially on this forum.

    Less serious. Best. Thread. Evah.
     
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    heh. You need to start a thread saying you're going back to basics. Then everybody will start selling off their gear cheap and I'll make out like a fat rat.
     
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    Thanks Terry. You nailed it brother.
     
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    Survivalists' appear to prep to get lost in the wilderness and survive; to get back to civilized chaos. Bushcrafting appears to prep for surviving civilized chaos and get back to the wilderness. ....and so it goes, Kurt Vonnegut
     
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    Well I haven’t posted much lately and a thread with 10 pages of everyone agreeing is part of the reason for it. When everyone thinks the same and there are no new ideas put fort, things get boring quick. I like seeing different view points because it makes me think.

    As far as what started this rant, I don’t know, I am down to 1.5 forums, I don’t watch youtube or much TV and I only read what is very interesting to me because I don’t have a lot of free time.

    I do have a hard time grasping this thought coming from a former SERE instructor though. I will say I have specific items that I take to woods, or have in my car or have at work that are in the best case for emergencies and the worst case survival situations. I don’t obsess over them and make a bunch of narcissistic videos about them but I also don’t leave home without em either.
     
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    Word, well said.
     
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