Tolkien Family In Talks To Sell LOTR TV Rights

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  1. Harper

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    Disney will probably buy it and make sub stories which will come out every year like they do Star Wars.

    I still have hopes for Star Wars but since Disney took over the stories are far less entertaining.

    So as far as LOTR selling, I think it's a good way to ruin a good story.
     
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    Agreed about SW.
     
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    redoing the trilogy or the hobbit on tv? no thanks.

    adapting the Silmarillion? I could get behind that!!!
     
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    Farmer Giles of Ham, or Smith of Wooten Major, maybe. But I would really hate to see The Hobbit, or LOTR cheapened by serialiasation.
     
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    Just don't hire the video game writers:

    "At the outset, the protagonist duo are seen forging a brand-new ring that they can use to defeat Sauron."

    "Of course, the addition of armies also makes the already questionable ethics of the game even more questionable. In Shadow of Mordor, you were essentially torturing and brutalizing orcs in an attempt to gain intel and intimidate your enemies. Now, you’re enslaving orcs and making them fight for you."

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/12/16463898/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-review-ps4-xbox-pc
     
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    Peter Jackson should be roundly thrashed for his ultra-long dog's breakfast version of the Hobbit. Some directors will go crazy if there is nobody close to them that will tell them "No" on a regular basis. Your mileage may vary.
     
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    I like long movies though. Does need more meat on the bone when it's a longer movie though.
     
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    if you are a book purist, I should mention what a friend just told me about. a guy took the hobbit trilogy and cut it down to only what was in the books (more or less) which turned the hobbit trilogy into one four hour movie. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but he offers it for torrent downloadin with the instructions that you need to own the movies before downloading.
    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com
     
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    Only way I could see 'them' avoiding this is turning each book into multiple seasons of of TV. The only way I could be HAPPY is if 'they' did some sort of Netflix formula with super high quality hour long episodes which are very faithful to the source material.
     
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    But I don't have Netflix. :)
     
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    Not everyone does but some the scale of LOTR deserves 10 or so hour long episodes, I think. HBO, Starz, Showtime, CBS, and several other networks also could pull off the so called 'Netflix formula' that i find works well.

    Anything less than that, like say a standard 20 episode (40 minutes per episode) season, just won't work i think. Some TV shows have actually filmed in New Zealand like LOTR and I think a LOTR show would have to try for that too.
     
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    That's a much narrower market and so is a movie channel than what they currently have, it will likely never even be on DVD at that point. Unless you're trying to sell Netflix subscription or HBO, that will assure it's fall IMO.
    Lots of people have moved away from mainstream carriers due to cost.
     
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    Had not thought of that....... hmmmmm. Good points. :)
     
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    Though I very much liked the movies, I’m still pissed that Jackson left out Tom Bombadil who was such an important and enigmatic character in the trilogy. So maybe a series could include him. That said, unless on a network like HBO or through Netflix or similar, where they have more freedom with content, I just can’t help but think it’s suck and ruin the charm of the original material.
     
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    Hey...I'm a genius. :4: Lol
     
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    I'm a movie guy, the Lord of the Rings Trilogy was done right IMHO. The Hobbit....well......they do make a lot of money on movies sometimes don't they....

    I'd not likely watch a series tv program much....maybe binge watch one weekend to see what it was about....I don't have the time or inclination to watch every week to see what is going to happen.....and on this one I know the story line....
     
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    DVD is just a format. Whether it's theatrical release, TV broadcast, home video (betamax, VHS, LaserDisc, DVD, Blue Ray), edited airline version, pay per view on your home system, steaming service, etc, "format" is just a "delivery" method to consumers. Content is King. That is, whoever owns the material will naturally find new and innovative ways to deliver that content to consumers, whether in large groups or individuals.

    Service providers, whether theater chains, networks, record companies, cable companies, or now steaming services, provide a service to consumers. What made Netflix unique, originally, was their "busting" the system(s) and altering the paradigm, a few times.

    "Own it again" used to the the call to action for consumers as formats changed - newer, better - but that too is changing as consumer tastes have changed in our newly non-linear world.
     
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    Looks like it's official. Amazon bought it:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-to-56-6-million-second-weekend-idUSKBN1DC0W9

    "Amazon said the series will explore new storylines that precede author J.R.R. Tolkien’s ‘The Fellowship of the Ring,’ the first installment in the famed fantasy trilogy."

    Hmmm.

    My fear is that they will go the "Dark and Gritty" route that is popular in streaming shows these days, with lots of graphic violence and gratuitous elf nudity. I'm not a shrinking violent or a prude, but I've seen enough real violence that I try to limit the images I let into my head, and much of the nudity seems really exploitative.

    Dunno. We'll see I guess.
     
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    Normally I have zero issues with the above. However, it doesn't seem to be in the spirit of Tolkein to include that sort of stuff in a TV series which MIGHT attempt to honor his work.
     
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    Right. I'm TOTALLY speculating here, so it might be an issue. We'll see. I've seen some Amazon programming that's been pretty good. Man in The High Castle comes to mind.
     
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    The more I think about this, the more I'd love to see some Dunedain Ranger action in the years leading up to LOTR.
     
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    Could they do the silmarillion as a live action tv show though? It’s on such a huge scale that the cost of fx would be too much so they’d probably do it as an animation, which I’m not too sure would work.
     
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    Amazon has more money than sense. If they go into the correct direction, I expect the result to be high quality production value..... Yet, they still could bite off more than they could chew.
     
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    I just read that myself.

    I don't like Bezos' playing politics. I'm not a fan of monopolies.

    However, Amazon certainly has deep pockets. Hopefully, they'll want to make this series their crown jewel and do it right.

    Here is a quote:

    Ranger action?

    It's not clear if the Silmarillion or some of the other works edited by Christopher Tolkien were included in the sale.

    The family must have got a ton of money. I'm glad about that.
     
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    Yeah but right now they have ben really pushing Prime Video and have really been spending money. I would use mine if "unlimited data" was really unlimited data, or I was rich, but I haven't streamed or downloaded a single thing with my Prime account since I've had it in three years, so I will likely never see it.
     
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    I fear that as usual tv-series will ruin the movies that ruined the bookstoryline. All to benefit commerce.
    I stick with the book, occasionally looking at the movies as a no-brainer eveningfiller, popcorn and beer-level.
    Wouldn't touch a tv-series with a 10 footpole as you folks say.
     
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