Tula 7.62x39 154gr SP ammo

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  1. Danmanrn

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    Hi All,
    Have any here used this ammo on Deer or Hogs? If so how did it do?
    Thanks!

    Dan
     
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    I haven't used that ammo but I would have 0 concerns out to 100 yards. You are almost matching 3030 ballistics with that heavy bullet. I looked it up and its sending 154gns at over 2100 fps at the muzzle. If it makes you feel better about it, I killed a deer this year with a 55gn .223 right through the lungs and the deer went 20 yards. Focus on your shot placement and you will be fine
     
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    The doe I took a few years ago was with some Herter's brand 154 SP from Cabela's (which is made by Tula, I think) in my MAK-90 and a 5 rnd. magazine. It was a lung shot, bullet separated from the jacket but mushroomed. (I found the jacket), Shot was about 50 yds.

    Anything from a x39, balistically should have no problem with shot-placement, although I heard you should avoid hunting with the HPs, they don't expand very well.
    YMMV,
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    Sometimes they expand, sometimes they dont. The bullet is also made of steel. The reason it does not expand.

    Get some Hornady Z-MAX or SST. They will have a real bullet in it to work on game.
     
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    Seen that one wasp. But you have to remember, it is at about 10 feet. Take that gel out to 50 yards and see what it will do. I have seen deer that have been shot at 75 yd and it was a pencil hole in and out. I have shot a few coyotes and the same thing. That was out of a SKS and it ran almost 150fps faster than an AK.

    Wolf used to make a actual copper bullet. It was a little more. And them made a nice 2" hole exit on a coyote.

    The proper way to test these bullets in gel is to down load them to the velocity that the bullet will be impacting the critter at.

    Distance (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
    Velocity (fps) 2,116 1,996 1,880 1,659 1,455 1,272 1,124
    Energy (ft. lbs) 1,527 1,359 1,205 939 722 551 431

    Distance (yards) 50 100 150 200 250 300
    Short Trajectory (in) -0.4 0.0 -2.0 -6.8 -14.8 -26.4

    Distance (yards) 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
    Long Trajectory (in) 2.7 1.3 0.0 -5.8 -15.3 -47.2 -100.6

    Projectile Weight: 153.6
    B.C. 0.3302


    7.62x39 154gr. SP
     
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    Always interested in this stuff. Know very little. I read somewhere. Cz makes a 7.62x39 bolt rifle. In Canada sks (pinned to 5 round by law) and heavily modified versions are popular. Cheap, semi auto, decent power. Was curious if the bolt rifle in theory would throw a bullet harder/further? (Very well could be a silly question, apologies if so) From what I understand the bolt will generally be more accurate.
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    CZ527M (modified to address light primer strikes). Have one; love it. Accurate, at least compared to my AK. Did a lot of research. No feral hogs to shoot, but confident it would do the job. Also have some of the old Wolf coppers, too.
     
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    Good info, thanks! SGAmmo has some of the best prices on just about any ammo you might need. I am not affiliated
    with them in any way. CZ, and Ruger along with multiple Mauser bolt actions are out there. The new Ruger American Rifle
    is the most current offering that I know of. Again great info, keep it coming, and THANKS!
     
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    The bolt action sporting rifles in 7.62x39 will generally be more accurate than AKs or SKS rifles. No difference in ballistics, however.

    I really want Ruger to start making the American Ranch Rifle in 7.62x39 with a left handed action. I'd order one almost immediately. (Already nagged them about it on their website and FB page.)
     
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    My brother in law showed me some video from the local range. A guy let him try his fancy rifle. It looked like a mini assault rifle (excuse my Canadian lingo) like a big mp9. It was a 9mm actually, I do remember that. But because it's a semi auto rifle. It's limited to 5 rounds. They had a tactical course set up. It was hilarious to watch. 10 or so targets. Double tap, double tap one for good measure. Ask the other targets to kindly wait! Reload, double tap and so on.
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    That 450 Bushmaster sure looks nice!
     
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    Federal Fusion .7.62x39. Its a good bullet.
     
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    This is what I use...
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    I have only taken 1 game animal so far with it. Approximately 100 lb hog from 20-30 yards using an ATN thermal on my Windham Weaponry SRC. Dropped like a rock without a squeal or a flop.
     
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    Shot this one with Tula 153sp about 50yrds. 20" barrel. Exit side. Massive damage and bone chunks/fragments. I was very high in climber bullet went in angled down. Half came out far side(what you see here) other half came out chest.
    IMG_20151228_195542.jpg

    Below is chest where other piece exited.
     

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