USGI Canteen Cup - Stainless Steel

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  1. Calicoast

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    Looking to pick one of these up, would like to keep everything original and stainless. Is there a reason why the USGI lid in Stainless is so hard to find? I have seen a few matches, but reviews say they don't fit that great. Thanks, C
     
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    Thanks for the reply.
    Is that my only option?
    Did the originals not come with stainless lids?
    And if that is my only option (aftermarket) where should I buy for the best fit?
    Thanks, C
     
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    I have tried these and found that it was not as much as the lid fitting right but rather the cup has been tweaked over the years. I had a brand new cup and this lid fit rather well. On my older ones they are, shall we say close.
     
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    Thanks again all for the replies.

    So, a brand new USGI canteen cup and a new canteen lid from Self Reliance fits well / but over time tweaks out a bit?
    I can live with that.


    C
     
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    I will add the cheap Rothco lids do not fit. There were a few SS cups on the trade blanket, not sure if they're still there.
     
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    USGI canteen cup never came with a lid.
    If, as in your original post, you want to be close to original.
    Stick with a GI canteen, cup, stove, and cover, and just buy a rothco lid. (5 bucks)
    You have to flatten out the flange around the lid but it works quite well.
    By flattening the flange out it will not "snap" on to the cup but will set on top and do what it is suppose to.
     
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    I was never issued a lid for my canteen cup and never saw one the entire time I was in.
     
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    I just use tin foil for a lid. Much cheaper, lighter, and easier to pack. Plus, multi-purpose.
     
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    All good stuff to know.

    Was the USGI canteen stove ever offered in stainless? Would like to use my trangia + wood burning.
    C
     
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    There is no such thing. That's why it's hard to find. ;) The US government has never made one.

    Options: Foil, buy a lid and modify to fit, buy a cup and lid together (they should fit together if sold together), or make your own. I got an aluminum cake pan, cut out a rough shape and then start hammering. Over and over, around and around. It eventually takes the shape and any ripples go away.

    It was rumored somewhere that the USMC used (for a very short time, or perhaps it was just testing) a thick stainless steel stove. As far as I know, everyone has moved away from the stoves. With the flameless ration heaters and chemical fuels, the stoves are mostly just a windbreak. The stoves that have been issued are aluminum, but despite that, I have no problems burning sticks/pinecones/paper in mine. Probably because the fire doesn't really get that big or hot (to melt or warp the aluminum).
     
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    ^^^
    Usually I can track this stuff down, but if they never made it, that answers that. :)

    Appreciate all the replies.
    Try and get a pic up with what I put together.
    C
     
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    Is there a reason you wanted things "all original"? Just curious.

    The stove is usually pretty wobbly and a pain in the butt as-is....modification is common.

    I really love my Nalgene Oasis canteen over the issue ones, too. Super quality, and they are clear so you can see how much is in it.
     
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    No reason for the original, just been searching and like complete sets. I was going to put one together and then gift one to my dad who served. Kind of a pair for the both of us. I have two of the Nalgene Oasis bottles (Red and Green). Think I will go that route with the USGI cup, make a lid, or go foil. Also looking at the esbit for wood burning, but not a fan of the esbit mess. Prefer alchohol + wood
    C
     
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    I fitted a Rothco lid to a USGI cup by trimming a cup rim a little bit. I opted for snap fit just like it would on a Rothco canteen cup. That means I have to just set the lid on top of the cup when heating...otherwise it would be too difficult to remove when hot. It wasn't difficult to do, just lined up the lid on the cup and ran a Sharpie around it to see how much rim needed to be removed.

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    ^^^
    @Spork - That looks like a match + snap fit. Did you use a dremel or snips?
    Any additional details on that be great.
    Thanks, C
     
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    I just used files...the stainless isn't that hard.
     
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    When I first got in, some Soldiers still had the single folding handle canteen cups....the ones prior to the butterfly handles.
     
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    Good stuff all around. Think I will be going the USGI canteen cup, Rothco lid, Nalgene Oasis route. Now I am just down to the stove set up.

    +Thanks to all the veterans for the info as well. #Gratitude/Respect
    C
     
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    @Calicoast At one time Canteen Shop made the stove and cup lid for the GI issue cup. That seems to have been discontinued with the introduction of there Titanium canteen set.


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    The Esbit and Aluminum folding $5.00 folding Sterno stove will both do the trick with both wood and alcohol IMG_4644.JPG
     
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    I was just about to switch to the Oasis bottles too, but then I found some wide mouth clear plastic canteens at Target of all places. They were in the Dollar bins at the front of the store. $3 if I remember right.
     
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    @Seacapt.: Do you have a picture of the esbit / trangia / canteen cup?
    C
     
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    I've looked at this, too. Have not gotten one, but it's on my list. ;) If you get one, let us know how it is.

    Also check local military surplus stores. I want to say I've seen used ones around $3 (might have dirt on them and are bent), and new stoves run around $10. Depending on what they stock and what companies they deal with, they may also sell lids (or complete kits).
     
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    No, this is my alternate set up on my wood/alcohol fueled Sterno fire box when I use the Trangia burner in lieu of wood or coals. IMG_5517.JPG
     
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    Nice setups all.
    Definitely an addiction. :)
     
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    HeavyCover: Edit, actually these were from the Canteen shop. Uwharrie Camp  Gear Test 027.JPG
     
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    We Aussies still use that design and for good reasons I prefer it, it is very hard to fit a long stick to butterfly handles for using the cup as a scoop in deep water holes in hard to reach places etc but very east to lash such a stick to the old clip style handle. I use my kidney cup for sentimental reasons tho, you can take the boy out of the army but never get the army out of the boy, even when he's almost 70YO
     
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    I had both. The one with the wire handles didn't have a metal rim at the top- it just flared out. The folding handle one has a metal rim at the top which stays hotter than the cup- I prefer the newer cup without the rim, but I like the folding handle better!
     
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    The reason for the change was probably because the butterfly handle is probably so much cheaper to make; cheaper equals better in the eyes of QMG
     
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    If you would have read the OP you would understand the option, contribution! :dblthumb:
     
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    Appreciate all replies / contributions. =)

    I think at that price range / china / might be looking at the HC canteen kit.

    Going to talk to my pops and lightly see how he leans with that.
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    Lets be brutally honest with ourselves here for a few moments.
    There in nothing intrinsically "better" about the US / Australian canteen and cup when compared to the canteens and cups of other countries if we are comparing Stainless cups. They all do the same job really; carry a minimum amount of water and allow a grunt to warm up some food/ brew tea or coffee.
    I use and carry mine for sentimental not practical reasons, a 2 litre PET bottle combined with an MSR Titan kettle/TOAKS 900ml cup is a far more practical set-up.
    Cost is another factor as surplus is often sold at a huge discount to true replacement cost
     
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    You are correct, and I'm finding it's more about the accessories - cups, stoves, stand, pouch, silverware, etc.

    Lately I have been more in favor of the regular Nalgene setup. The canteen is wide enough, I can almost fit two Nalgenes into the same space. I was considering the NATO/British canteen setup, but realized it's essentially the same as everything else (canteen, cup, stove, etc).
     
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    I bought the Rothco lid and hammered the lip flat, work ok for what it is.
     

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