Vintage Mystery Compass from Asia?

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  1. Pastor Chris

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    I love compasses. As a cartography major at Rutgers, I enjoyed immensely many hours in the wood surveying long abandoned sections of Camp Kilmer.

    I have always been fascinated with compasses.

    I recently came across this one and am wondering if any of you can shed some light on it. Bakelite body, brass lit with mirror, peculiar scale, strange script.

    Any ideas or thoughts are welcome!

    [​IMG]Untitled by Chris Scrivens, on Flickr

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    Very nice find.
    Unable to answer any of your questions. But I have always been into vintage compass's as well, and am a big fan of cartography.
     
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    I'm not finding nothing. Even google image search is not pulling anything. These photos can't be the only ones of this particular object on the interwebs.
     
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    Does it actually point to North at the 0 or 60 mark?
     
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    Here is something close but its Polish.

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    Something even closer but Russian.

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    The bezel with scale rotates.
     
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    Yeah, I guess I phrased that question incorrect. Does the arrow point to mag north.
     
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    Yes indeed. It looks especially like the Polish one. Do you have a link to that?

    Curiouser and curiouser.
     
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    My old brain said ‘Korean’ when I saw the pics. Hmmm... very interesting. That isn’t one of the ‘west pointing’ ones for use by those escaping captivity is it?
     
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    There is a russian version on ebay

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    It makes sense to me if that compass came from North Korea...much of their military equipment being Soviet influenced
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. Thought being reinforced by the limited number of photos of this particular compass on line. Not a lot of stuff comes out of NOKO.

    http://www.compassmuseum.com
     
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    If it's a Polish Compass, it will point South. :p

    I was guessing a Polish compass too. I looked at one for sale in Sportsman's Guide last year.
     
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    I'm headed to my dry-cleaners today, they are Korean and Ill ask them if the characters are in Korean. Thanks for all of the help so far!
     
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    I was going to say Korean as well- their script tends to be more bubbly and rounded than Chinese or Japanese. I have a wax crayon set from a South Korean friend, given to me when I was 7 (some 30 years ago), the script looks exactly like what is on your compass.
     
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    Pretty cool. Why does the dial go 0-60 instead of 0-360?
     
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    Scroll down to Korean on this page: http://compassmuseum.com/diverstext/cardinals.htm

    North : 북 Bug
    East : 동 쪽 Dongjjog
    South : 남 쪽 Namjjog
    West : 서 쪽 Seojjog

    There are a couple very similar compasses on this compass museum site, with some interesting comments. Found them in "marching compasses". Seems to be a German style and then adopted by others.

    http://compassmuseum.com/hand/hand_3.htm#RUSSIA_AK
    This instrument was designated AK (artillery compass) in the Russian Army. It is almost identical to the WWII German Marschkompass (MK) made among other manufacturers by Breithaupt, Busch etc. This design was probably copied after the Sovietunion had occupied East-Germany (GDR) and produced by FPM.

    http://compassmuseum.com/hand/hand_1.htm#BREITHAUPT

    http://compassmuseum.com/hand/hand_2.htm#FPM

    Particular feature: The marching course setting bar in the middle reproduces the design of the WW II compasses (see BREITHAUPT above) but there is a major difference: on the Western (NATO) compasses, this line is oriented on a West-East axis while on compasses used in Eastern European (communist) countries (i.e. within the former Warsaw Pact, this line follows a North-South axis.
     
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    I can confirm that is Hangul (Korean), I've got nothing more though.
     
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    The bottom says "Jo-sun"

    It's north Korean. Where did you say you got it?
     
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    Thanks for that!

    I was donated to a church flea market from someone in the NW New Jersey area.

    is "Jo-sun" likely a manufacturer's name?
     
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    Jo-sun is the short form of what the north Koreans call their nation. It is also what they call their language, (jo seun mal) versus hangul or hanguk-mal, which is what the Republic of Korea calls their language and written alphabet.

    On the compass, it is like a "US" on US military gear or a broad arrow on British military gear.
     
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    Thanks very much, I’m so glad you found this thread!
     
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